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SCBW in Korea: Headlines 2011-10-12 - Page 6

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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 13 2011 04:28 GMT
#101
Pretty much everything I want to say has been said except for using the Dream League format for playoffs. For those who don't know what that is it's a Bo9 with 5 games of regular PL format, and 4 games of Winner's League format with only those who won their PL format games allowed to play. Since both formats count towards regular season standings I'd say this makes the most sense.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 04:30:56
October 13 2011 04:30 GMT
#102
On October 13 2011 13:28 jalstar wrote:
Pretty much everything I want to say has been said except for using the Dream League format for playoffs. For those who don't know what that is it's a Bo9 with 5 games of regular PL format, and 4 games of Winner's League format with only those who won their PL format games allowed to play. Since both formats count towards regular season standings I'd say this makes the most sense.


Wait they are planning to implement these in the next proleague ???? O.O
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50596 Posts
October 13 2011 04:38 GMT
#103
On October 13 2011 13:30 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 13:28 jalstar wrote:
Pretty much everything I want to say has been said except for using the Dream League format for playoffs. For those who don't know what that is it's a Bo9 with 5 games of regular PL format, and 4 games of Winner's League format with only those who won their PL format games allowed to play. Since both formats count towards regular season standings I'd say this makes the most sense.


Wait they are planning to implement these in the next proleague ???? O.O


we're just spit balling here.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
October 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#104
On October 13 2011 13:38 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 13:30 Sawamura wrote:
On October 13 2011 13:28 jalstar wrote:
Pretty much everything I want to say has been said except for using the Dream League format for playoffs. For those who don't know what that is it's a Bo9 with 5 games of regular PL format, and 4 games of Winner's League format with only those who won their PL format games allowed to play. Since both formats count towards regular season standings I'd say this makes the most sense.


Wait they are planning to implement these in the next proleague ???? O.O


we're just spit balling here.


TBH, if they hypothetically do reduce the number of games and implement these systemic changes, than these are quite reasonable and would be dabest.
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
October 13 2011 05:17 GMT
#105
The Dream League is ideal for the rookies/ B-teamers of course and it would give more variety to the viewers as well. So that's a good idea and hopefully Kespa/ ProLeague thinks the same.

Although , isn't in the proteams, rookies or B-teamers are used basically as helpers to A-teamers who has games coming up. They are told to do the same build over and over and basically adjust their practice routines to "serve" the A-teamers who are preparing for PL or Individual Leagues. If i'm not wrong that's why either Ret/Idra/Tyler really disliked the B-team system. Because they are basically servants to the A teamers.

So not sure if Dream League will get priority there since what has been mentioned points to the fact that A-teamers need more preparation. So probably all the rookies/B-teamers will be freed up to help this preparation especially if the whole A -team is busy.



rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
October 13 2011 07:50 GMT
#106
On October 13 2011 09:22 Kiri wrote:
No one cares about brood war anymore.... Tell the pros to come over to Starcraft 2!!! :D

User was temp banned for this post.

you dont have your own Pros or whaT? haha.

and watch OSL finals so u see that enough people care.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
October 13 2011 08:36 GMT
#107
Thanks for the updates. Fewer games would be ok, and bo5 would be fine too. I would like WL to stay in the circuit in some way as well.

There is some merit to going back to bi-yearly finals. Why did that get the axe? In the current system, I think the overall season is too long. Every game has more weight, and is more exciting if the end is in sight.

Winners league could be separated from the normal league if there were biannual finals, but I don't know if it would be as interesting then. Maybe just toss in a WL style round robin in each season. I think that'd be ideal.
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
October 13 2011 09:54 GMT
#108
I dont care if the lessen the frequency of games a little bit....its this long breaks i cant take TT.

I have to admit it always seemed a little odd that the individual competitions seemed to to take less importance in recent years...I certain get the feeling thats what most foreign viewers care the most about...and certainly the stars must bring in some advertising money for their teams by being baller in individual tournaments. BW is first and foremost a game of one versus one afterall.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
October 13 2011 10:52 GMT
#109
Sweet! Thanks for the summaries :D
tenacity
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1587 Posts
October 13 2011 11:06 GMT
#110
Park Wan Gyu also performed live at the last MSL finals. he did a good show but the audience wasn't really into it. Didn't know he really supports E-sports, I assumed he was just some random act. sorry T.T;;
It does not need to be fun to be fun.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
October 13 2011 11:12 GMT
#111
I 100000000% agree with the reduced emphasis on PL. Bisu needs his OSL!
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
October 13 2011 12:19 GMT
#112
On October 13 2011 20:06 tenacity wrote:
Park Wan Gyu also performed live at the last MSL finals. he did a good show but the audience wasn't really into it. Didn't know he really supports E-sports, I assumed he was just some random act. sorry T.T;;


i think at least since they did a show together he's always there when bisu plays! how can you miss him haha?! (or you don't watch enough bisu, bad you!) a really cool guy, if only everyone was like that.

BI~G thanks to OP (OS? ;D), Kespa management should pay all those TLers keeping BW alive!

mmm i kinda want to keep Bo7 and as many matches a week as possible. if teams in the premier league can play saturday-wednesday-saturday week for week why not BWers, it's PL all the same?
even though Bo7 does drag on forever and i only watch really interesting matches because it's just soo long
with no mbc there will automatically be less matches no? have to make up for that and the missing starleague. i'd rather have the rookies in PL proper, i don't think they can grow if they only keep playing dreamleaguers, but getting to watch DL would be sweet either way.

still don't know what to feel. seemed like most pros had lost the will to really fight and PL/BW was getting stale and OSL would be BWs last hurrah, and what a hurrah that was. it's just hard to see BW wither away ever so slowly, and when a fatal strike seemed to be dealt people/KESPA stepped in and somehow necroed it again. xp

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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 13 2011 14:03 GMT
#113
If you want to see more rockies, why don't they broadcast some of the internal matches that determine who goes into the A-team? I bet that would be interesting as well, especially for the fans of each respective team.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 13 2011 14:37 GMT
#114
On October 13 2011 23:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
If you want to see more rockies, why don't they broadcast some of the internal matches that determine who goes into the A-team? I bet that would be interesting as well, especially for the fans of each respective team.


You think the team managers are going to allow that ? lots of in game secrets could be flying out probably strats of the team being shared commonly. Other teams can use these as an advantage and may figure out a strategy to counter the said build .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-13 14:58:37
October 13 2011 14:55 GMT
#115
On October 13 2011 23:37 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 23:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
If you want to see more rockies, why don't they broadcast some of the internal matches that determine who goes into the A-team? I bet that would be interesting as well, especially for the fans of each respective team.


You think the team managers are going to allow that ? lots of in game secrets could be flying out probably strats of the team being shared commonly. Other teams can use these as an advantage and may figure out a strategy to counter the said build .

There's a 2008 show called HERO X-Files, where they broadcast past intra-house ranking games/practice games from MBCGame HERO. I think that's the only instance when intra-house ranking games were ever broadcasted.

Bo7 is good. Players like Jaehoon and Killer benefited greatly last season from getting regular play due to the Bo7 format. But 2 and sometimes even 3 matches a week for each team is too much. 1 round of WL is also more than enough.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 13 2011 15:50 GMT
#116
On October 13 2011 23:55 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 23:37 Sawamura wrote:
On October 13 2011 23:03 JustPassingBy wrote:
If you want to see more rockies, why don't they broadcast some of the internal matches that determine who goes into the A-team? I bet that would be interesting as well, especially for the fans of each respective team.


You think the team managers are going to allow that ? lots of in game secrets could be flying out probably strats of the team being shared commonly. Other teams can use these as an advantage and may figure out a strategy to counter the said build .

There's a 2008 show called HERO X-Files, where they broadcast past intra-house ranking games/practice games from MBCGame HERO. I think that's the only instance when intra-house ranking games were ever broadcasted.

Bo7 is good. Players like Jaehoon and Killer benefited greatly last season from getting regular play due to the Bo7 format. But 2 and sometimes even 3 matches a week for each team is too much. 1 round of WL is also more than enough.


That's what I thought , teams won't risk exposing much of their team builds on tv shows thanks for the info ryo.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
October 13 2011 15:56 GMT
#117
Thanks for the translations, interesting to see what's going on.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
October 13 2011 19:09 GMT
#118
Wow, community news AND featured! This topic is ballin' out of control! ^^
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.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
October 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#119
bo7 is fine, when bw is on i don't want it to stop. :D
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Bswhunter
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia954 Posts
October 13 2011 19:58 GMT
#120
Pretty baller write up. Its cool to see the politics and decision making of the korean progaming scene
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