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SCBW in Korea: Headlines 2011-10-12 - Page 7

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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 14 2011 05:14 GMT
#121
I prefer Bo5. I also want to see 2v2s come back, but that won't ever happen ):

I really hope they reduce the number of PL games, though. I barely watched any games this past season because I knew there would just be no way to keep up.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 14 2011 05:27 GMT
#122
Dream League Format for Playoffs would actually benefit players with very strong Aces, or it can wear those aces out against very deep teams... but I wouldn't be disappointed seeing the best players almost surely getting matches against each other. Just imagine KT demolishing SKT T1's BBF with Flash or a back and forth match between the new team (hopefully Jaedong, Sea, Killer/Baby) vs CJ's Hydra, Effort, Leta and one of their Tosses.
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reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
October 14 2011 05:34 GMT
#123
On October 14 2011 14:14 PH wrote:
I really hope they reduce the number of PL games, though. I barely watched any games this past season because I knew there would just be no way to keep up.

Yeah, even just watching all the highly recommended games was pretty hard if you had any life whatsoever...but I did it anyway to a certain extent (no life lol). Watching live is especially hard; I just watched VODs for 90% of the games last season.

It's great that the OPs of almost all LR threads contain polls now. For games that didn't feature Flash or some other player I wanted to see, I'd just watch games that over 80% of pollsters recommended. When I was super busy with school I'd have a list of like 15+ games that I'd watch eventually.
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
October 14 2011 10:41 GMT
#124
On October 14 2011 14:34 reincremate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 14:14 PH wrote:
I really hope they reduce the number of PL games, though. I barely watched any games this past season because I knew there would just be no way to keep up.

Yeah, even just watching all the highly recommended games was pretty hard if you had any life whatsoever...but I did it anyway to a certain extent (no life lol). Watching live is especially hard; I just watched VODs for 90% of the games last season.

It's great that the OPs of almost all LR threads contain polls now. For games that didn't feature Flash or some other player I wanted to see, I'd just watch games that over 80% of pollsters recommended. When I was super busy with school I'd have a list of like 15+ games that I'd watch eventually.

If you follow Football or Hockey, do you watch every game? No. I can't see how "too many games" can be a bad thing. We all have our favorite teams and favorite matchups. I mainly follow SKT, KHAN and CJ. If OZ plays KT I don't care who wins, so I just skip the games, or I watch individual games between players that I find interesting.

For the sake of the players health though I think they should decrease the amount of matches. It doesn't make any sense to start playing Bo5 though. That would just give more pressure to Bisu and Flash, and it would lead to less snipes, because most teams would just send their top players.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 14 2011 11:49 GMT
#125
I'm actually really confused with the playing format. From what I can gather, the least season had a shit ton of games (which seems about right considering I streamed less and watched more last season), and now they're trying to limit those games to make it easier on the viewer...

Okay, that part I get, but can anyone explain to me some of the details behind the actual formats/schedules for how these teams play?

Like are teams playing every other day....or are they playing on a weekly basis? I'm confused. :[
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TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
October 14 2011 12:15 GMT
#126
On October 14 2011 20:49 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I'm actually really confused with the playing format. From what I can gather, the least season had a shit ton of games (which seems about right considering I streamed less and watched more last season), and now they're trying to limit those games to make it easier on the viewer...

Okay, that part I get, but can anyone explain to me some of the details behind the actual formats/schedules for how these teams play?

Like are teams playing every other day....or are they playing on a weekly basis? I'm confused. :[


Nothing is certain yet but here are the problems:

Both players and fans thought there were far too many matches (between teams) last season.
MBC dropped starcraft from its broadcasting, so they've lost half of their TV broadcasts.
Three teams are gone and are being consolidated (maybe), or being drafted up by other teams. Nonetheless there is only 8 teams next year, so there are less games to be played.

They really don't have a choice to have less games, but nothing is official yet and we're waiting (ever so eagerly) for the official announcement regarding the eighth team, number of games, format, etc.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
October 14 2011 12:30 GMT
#127
I want to see 2v2s
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#128
The best option to take is to keep the BO7 format and then decrease the days of games being played for 1 team/week. Or do it like Bo5 for two days to give chances to rookie when veterans are busy in indis. But the last news is good, looks like we might have another gaming channel joining in.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66155 Posts
October 14 2011 13:23 GMT
#129
On October 14 2011 21:30 Bill Murray wrote:
I WanT to see 2v2s

2v2 was getting interested until they decided to use Hunters

worst mistake ever



maps like Iron curtain, hwangsanbul, Hannibal... all good 2v2 maps.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 13:57:57
October 14 2011 13:55 GMT
#130
On October 14 2011 19:41 ninini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 14:34 reincremate wrote:
On October 14 2011 14:14 PH wrote:
I really hope they reduce the number of PL games, though. I barely watched any games this past season because I knew there would just be no way to keep up.

Yeah, even just watching all the highly recommended games was pretty hard if you had any life whatsoever...but I did it anyway to a certain extent (no life lol). Watching live is especially hard; I just watched VODs for 90% of the games last season.

It's great that the OPs of almost all LR threads contain polls now. For games that didn't feature Flash or some other player I wanted to see, I'd just watch games that over 80% of pollsters recommended. When I was super busy with school I'd have a list of like 15+ games that I'd watch eventually.

If you follow Football or Hockey, do you watch every game? No. I can't see how "too many games" can be a bad thing. We all have our favorite teams and favorite matchups. I mainly follow SKT, KHAN and CJ. If OZ plays KT I don't care who wins, so I just skip the games, or I watch individual games between players that I find interesting.


Yeah. If you follow team(s) or players, there actually aren't that many games. I mainly follow Khan since Stork and FBH were my favorite as I began to watch. So I would watch a lot of Khan streams/vods, and Khan players in SLs. Otherwise, I don't bother unless I have free time and a game/match seems interesting. i.e. I might tune into a KT vs Ace match to root for Ace as a David vs Goliath story.

Never was someone who just want to see epic games. Because no matter how epic a game, if I don't have rooting interest, I really don't care that much.
Meh
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 14 2011 14:45 GMT
#131
@folks saying there's not too many games to keep up:

Yeah, but if you watched BW back in the past few seasons before BO7s and all this, there was few enough games a week where you could stay up late on Thursday and Saturday and see all of the games going on. Keep in mind while some of us do have favorite teams/players that doesn't mean we don't like to watch or don't want to watch other players and other teams. How else are we supposed to find other players we enjoy and such?

Restricting yourself to only watching one or two teams in Proleague is missing a lot of storylines, rivalries, and so on. I'd much rather have them go back to their old schedule (like 08 09 old, lol) but with BO7 instead. It was so easy to watch all of the BW.
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HaruHaru
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States988 Posts
October 14 2011 17:08 GMT
#132
Thanks for the update. I think the less games per week is definitely going to help. I had difficulty keeping up with all the games when there were so many new videos every day. Hope everything works out!
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JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
October 14 2011 19:08 GMT
#133
On October 14 2011 14:14 PH wrote:
I prefer Bo5. I also want to see 2v2s come back, but that won't ever happen ):

I really hope they reduce the number of PL games, though. I barely watched any games this past season because I knew there would just be no way to keep up.

I would love to see 2v2s, maybe in the penultimate set of each match?
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8081 Posts
October 14 2011 19:56 GMT
#134
It'd be really weird if 2v2 came back, especiallly since no progamers have practiced much 2v2 in like 3 years. the problem with 2v2 was that it was almost always pz vs pz, and i felt like sometimes it became way too for the observer to follow all the action.

although during a bo7 it would become a lot less annoying I think since it sucked when 1/4 of the games were 2v2s (at least for me). or maybe if they just make the maps better 2v2 could be awesome.
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:19:35
October 14 2011 20:17 GMT
#135
On October 14 2011 22:23 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 21:30 Bill Murray wrote:
I WanT to see 2v2s

2v2 was getting interested until they decided to use Hunters

worst mistake ever



maps like Iron curtain, hwangsanbul, Hannibal... all good 2v2 maps.

Lol, Hunters was such a fail -_-

Even I stopped watching 2v2s that season...

On October 15 2011 04:08 JFKWT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 14:14 PH wrote:
I prefer Bo5. I also want to see 2v2s come back, but that won't ever happen ):

I really hope they reduce the number of PL games, though. I barely watched any games this past season because I knew there would just be no way to keep up.

I would love to see 2v2s, maybe in the penultimate set of each match?

I want it to be the third set like it used to be. That was fun.
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TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
October 14 2011 20:19 GMT
#136
They should do some kind of league, similar to winner's league where it could be about show matches, 2v2s, special events, etc.

Just one short season a year maybe, to show off rookies or something. Maybe make the rookie tournaments more of a "season-thing" so that while we get to meet and see new players play, we get to see them mingle and interact with the old guard too.

Or hell, like....2v1s against FlaSh and Bisu by the newcomers.

I guess I'm just asking for more things like BNETAttack because I love that show. Or that round table discussion I saw after the match fixing scandal.

Oh, and if they're talking about seasons and dieing support...god it's so blatantly obvious they need a translator and they need an english caster. Or just CCTV and sub dat sheet.

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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:24:48
October 14 2011 20:24 GMT
#137
On October 15 2011 05:19 TheGlassface wrote:
They should do some kind of league, similar to winner's league where it could be about show matches, 2v2s, special events, etc.

Just one short season a year maybe, to show off rookies or something. Maybe make the rookie tournaments more of a "season-thing" so that while we get to meet and see new players play, we get to see them mingle and interact with the old guard too.

Or hell, like....2v1s against FlaSh and Bisu by the newcomers.

I guess I'm just asking for more things like BNETAttack because I love that show. Or that round table discussion I saw after the match fixing scandal.

Oh, and if they're talking about seasons and dieing support...god it's so blatantly obvious they need a translator and they need an english caster. Or just CCTV and sub dat sheet.


Once again, I'm reminded of another past MBCGame show. It was called "The Rookie". The best amateurs and practice partners played against one another on MBCGame.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 14 2011 20:30 GMT
#138
I mentioned this back in Kona's thread and I'm going to mention it again as a personal comment (therefore not going to add it to the OP, which should be just news). My suggestion for spicing it up next season is:

Set 3: random vs. random

Okay, so this may require KeSPA to really bend against their iron will. Random vs. random has a crazy element of luck, or rather, a lot of luck-based elements everywhere in every dimension. But come on, wouldn't this be a heck lot of fun? Who wants to see Stork 4pool Hyun's 12nex (I DO I DO I DO)? This is going to require revolutionary changes in record-keeping (possibly the need to report all 9 possible match-ups for each player) if it is meant to be recorded. But that's too complicated, right? So I'm suggesting that this game to only count towards the game's score, but not towards the personal score (even if both players land their main races). This way: players don't feel bad about playing this coin-toss set because their personal records won't be ruined, a TON of hilarious cheese and failures are going to entertain everyone, and maybe random rookies that are good at all 3 races will get a spot. Keep this for WL format, and now you got a whole new meaning to "all-kill."

Just an idea *shrug* anybody got opinions on this?
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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
October 14 2011 22:10 GMT
#139
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
October 14 2011 22:12 GMT
#140
I think keeping the Bo7 format is fine if they also decrease the number of days. Bo7 AND 5 days a week is too much, but a Bo7 every other day or something is great.
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