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vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
May 10 2005 02:30 GMT
#141
Elvin, I think there are already maphacks that can prevent those clicks too.

And SojT, dunno if it was played on BWS but it's not 100% safe anyway.. Just doesn't detect all hacks. PGT and BWS both try really hard to keep updated though, they're doing a good job.
Moderatorfollow me on twitter if u think ur so tough @BooyaCow
hixhix
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
1156 Posts
May 10 2005 02:31 GMT
#142
On May 10 2005 11:05 Amnesty wrote:
Yah i tested it, its 100%

You can select a geyser under fog of war or minerals and see a yellow selection circle made, however its not recorded as selecting the mins/geyser, or buildings for that matter. Although it looks like it selects it, it really selects the ground under it in all cases.

Im not gonna bother d/ling a MH to test the other case, but we can deduct if its impossible to select or "move on target" legitly, when someone does it, it must be because of a hack.

Louis, can you email TravelToAuir your maphack so he can update BwScanner? Thanks.


lol, you forgot to say "please" :D
Terross
Profile Joined November 2003
United States878 Posts
May 10 2005 03:17 GMT
#143
On May 09 2005 21:04 Sarangyoo wrote:
I dont think lastgosu hack , he is a good and respected player so dont start without good proof thx you


good is in question..
respected? most definiltey not rofl
I am Joe oO;
Terross
Profile Joined November 2003
United States878 Posts
May 10 2005 03:19 GMT
#144
i don't get why lastgosu types so demented on tlt, but b.net he always spoke perfect english?
I am Joe oO;
Ash
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Malaysia1978 Posts
May 10 2005 03:22 GMT
#145
There is no such thing as perfect English
Petza_Gr
Profile Joined October 2003
Greece299 Posts
May 10 2005 03:54 GMT
#146
On May 09 2005 21:04 Sarangyoo wrote:
I dont think lastgosu hack , he is a good and respected player so dont start without good proof thx you


haha i bet this guy is lastgosu smurfing....
There are only two infinite things: Universe and human stupidity. And im not sure about the former. (Albert Einstein)
lastgosu
Profile Joined May 2005
United States24 Posts
May 10 2005 05:15 GMT
#147
I played 80 games in TLT ladder game. i bet you searched all my 80 games. and you found nothing else but 1 error that stupid ridiculous attacking nexus without vision which is impossible ?

if you think im real hacker you should find some more real proof and im really sure you can find couple more easily if im real hacker.

I dont have fucking idea how BWchart or penguin recorded attack nexus during game without vision but its the fact that can be very some error by those programs. ( And If I had total no vision of his Nexus ever! and if i had Black Fog on and i clicked without seen his nexus at all, then you could say 100% proof of hack. otherwise i demand you to find some more 100% proof of hack )

And btw It doesnt matter Im good or I suck ? but fact is i hacked ? so banned?
do you think Im way suck to lose to Madcow 10-7 ? with map hack ? or lose to anyother people who has very bad stats?
I dont hack but I only hacked vs Nookie ? just one game ? C'mon its total dont make any sense.

At begin you all said i hack vs Testie with BWScanner and now you say i hacked only 1 game vs MgZ)Nookie.

And even if i am hacker
I would give much more try to use map hack at the TLT FINAL.
LADDER is not mean at all even you get TOP 1 or TOP 32 its same.
isnt it make more sense ?

so find some more proof at my TLT final game and tell me if you can find some shitty proof there. then post it.

I lost to players 1-2 vs 88)control , 0-1 Testie <- Is it possible to happen with using Godly Map hack that only i have own? undetectable map hack with BWscanner? thats bull shit.

If I had beat everyone in TLT final and if I caught with several Proof of I hack. I would run away.
But saying I am hacker but i didnt hack at TLT final but i only did vs MgZ)Nookie once!
This is very non-sense. -_- If you have brain think about it.

and btw Everyone know I hacked 2004 WCG onlinie prelinary ? C'mon get the fucking proof before you mention it and who is everyone that said i hack ? Maybe Its only you. You are some faggot dont want see some new rising gosu show up.

Im very well knowned USEAST player at clan x17. ( since 2003 winter )
which is very sensitive against map hackers or cheaters.
not even 1 mentioned i hack until now.
pirate cod
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
810 Posts
May 10 2005 05:24 GMT
#148
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHHHHhhhh. Lastgosu, at this point no one has to prove anything more than what's already been found to say you hacked in every single game you've ever played. No one cares at that - considering you're still a hacker whether you maphacked every game you played or one.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 05:30:54
May 10 2005 05:29 GMT
#149
he's just trying to act tough.

At first he threaten peguin "what if i don't hack, what would you do"

Then he gave out stupid reasoning and acted tough

gg hacker
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
KT.MGW)ZergBOy
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)39 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 05:31:55
May 10 2005 05:30 GMT
#150
I played several games against LastGosu from east server, and from the games that I played against him (like 6-7 games), he never once map hacked.

I think im 6-2 or 6-3 against lastgosu, i have most of the replays and i looked through them, and I can tell you 100% that he does not map hack.

I actually know a lot about lastgosu because of his old AKA.
I was in the same clan as him (KTF.sG)

5-6 years ago he use to be a semi pro gamer in korea. His ID was KTF.sG)sO.Oz

He was really famous in the korean starcraft community because he was able to get rank 1
on gamei (the original one). This is s really big accomplishment considering how competive it was back then. However, he was caught map hacking by the starrcfat community and there was a huge fight on ygclan.com. In one of his games against junwi_[saM] on gamei, he never once used a scanner during the 30-40minute game which is really funny considering he was #1 ranked gamei player at the time. So he was caught map hacking.... but nonetheless his accomplishment as #1 ranked on gamei is impressive... even if he did it with map hack.

So after that incident, he quit starcraft for couple of years. Then he decided to return... and become a member of the english starcrfat community. He started playing on east server with ID: Lastgosu like many of you know. People learned how good he was quickly.... but during this period... he didnt map hack. I know this because I played him several games. his TvZ is actually very weak compared to other good Terran players. However, I could tell he was trying to become good by not map hacking because in a lof of the games I played against him, it was obvious he didnt map hack. Dont get me wrong guys, he is a good player.... even if he dont use map hack.

But I think that money corrupted him when he was playing in TLT. He wanted to win the money... because it was a huge cash prize.... and he knew he was pro gamer level with it. Even though he is good, he wanted to be confident and be able to win that money.

At this point im not sure if he maphacked or not... but the truth is...although he does have a history of map hack.... he is still a good player without it. He may not be the best... buit he is a decent player in USA. If he did map hack, i think it was only because of money.






West: Op KT.MGW)
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
May 10 2005 05:37 GMT
#151
i wouldn't base all accusation on BWAC or BWChart on w/e the program you use. The only GOOD reliable "anti-hack" was Lasgo's Observer Pack. If a proof doesn't come from this program, then I don't trust it.

Those two programs make a lot of mistakes. I've seen him play on east, and I didn't think his play was suspicious at all. Find me proofs with Lasgo's Observer thingy, then I'll believe it. I've caught many hackers and suspected many non-hackers. "Suspicious" actions detected by BWAC and BWChart didn't match with the observer program selections.

I don't think you guys have enough proofs to say that he hacks. Someone said sooner that BWAC does not make mistakes. Bullshit.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
NewbSaibot
Profile Joined May 2004
3849 Posts
May 10 2005 05:44 GMT
#152
i believe him
I went to the chippy last night and only orderd chips because I knew I could get fish from her bushy plate.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 05:46:08
May 10 2005 05:44 GMT
#153
On May 10 2005 14:37 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:
i wouldn't base all accusation on BWAC or BWChart on w/e the program you use. The only GOOD reliable "anti-hack" was Lasgo's Observer Pack. If a proof doesn't come from this program, then I don't trust it.

Those two programs make a lot of mistakes. I've seen him play on east, and I didn't think his play was suspicious at all. Find me proofs with Lasgo's Observer thingy, then I'll believe it. I've caught many hackers and suspected many non-hackers. "Suspicious" actions detected by BWAC and BWChart didn't match with the observer program selections.

I don't think you guys have enough proofs to say that he hacks. Someone said sooner that BWAC does not make mistakes. Bullshit.


i think BWAC make it easier to "search for suspicious actions" but BWCHART is the program which confirms the hack action

and talking about accuracy, BWCHART > Lasgo OP
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
superpenguin
Profile Joined May 2004
France199 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-10 05:49:58
May 10 2005 05:47 GMT
#154
On May 10 2005 14:37 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:
Find me proofs with Lasgo's Observer thingy, then I'll believe it
(...)
I don't think you guys have enough proofs to say that he hacks. Someone said sooner that BWAC does not make mistakes. Bullshit.


It's easy to ask some proof from a software that doesnt exists ! There is no bwtvobs for patch 1.12, you havent been around in a while ? So it's very easy if you want to defend your friend to ask us to provide something that is very obviously and publicly known as impossible to do. And btw, bwtvobs is not supposed to be an anti-cheat program, it can just be used for this in some case but it's not "the only anti-cheat program", since it's not even in this category.

And if you think that penguinplug/bwac+bwchart can make some mistakes, then prove it, respect the method perfectly and try to find some proof in replays of someone that is not cheating. Good luck.

There is no noob map, only noob players
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
May 10 2005 05:48 GMT
#155
haha ima laugh when he actually does good at wcg.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
OctoPuSs
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Canada5279 Posts
May 10 2005 05:48 GMT
#156
On May 10 2005 14:44 Elvin_vn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2005 14:37 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:
i wouldn't base all accusation on BWAC or BWChart on w/e the program you use. The only GOOD reliable "anti-hack" was Lasgo's Observer Pack. If a proof doesn't come from this program, then I don't trust it.

Those two programs make a lot of mistakes. I've seen him play on east, and I didn't think his play was suspicious at all. Find me proofs with Lasgo's Observer thingy, then I'll believe it. I've caught many hackers and suspected many non-hackers. "Suspicious" actions detected by BWAC and BWChart didn't match with the observer program selections.

I don't think you guys have enough proofs to say that he hacks. Someone said sooner that BWAC does not make mistakes. Bullshit.


i think BWAC make it easier to "search for suspicious actions" but BWCHART is the program which confirms the hack action

and talking about accuracy, BWCHART > Lasgo OP

You can't be serious?

In BWChart, if you click a building you half see, poof, suspicious. I even saw some LAN games with those kind of proofs you have against Lastgosu.
Depression is just a sarcastic state of mind. Liquid`HerO Fighting!
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
May 10 2005 05:51 GMT
#157
On May 10 2005 14:48 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:
You can't be serious?

In BWChart, if you click a building you half see, poof, suspicious. I even saw some LAN games with those kind of proofs you have against Lastgosu.


This proves it all, you don't even know what you are talking about.
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
superpenguin
Profile Joined May 2004
France199 Posts
May 10 2005 05:53 GMT
#158
On May 10 2005 14:48 MaRiO.BrOs_ wrote:
In BWChart, if you click a building you half see, poof, suspicious. I even saw some LAN games with those kind of proofs you have against Lastgosu.


This is the typical comment by someone who think "suspicious action = hack". Find a flaw in this method if you can : http://www.starcraftdream.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4983

Then when you will know what you are talking about, you can talk but you will not say the same thing
There is no noob map, only noob players
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
May 10 2005 05:53 GMT
#159
On May 10 2005 14:48 hatedbymany wrote:
haha ima laugh when he actually does good at wcg.


hmmm
if he does bad at wcg, he's a bad player and he hacked
if he does good at wcg, he's a good player and he hacked
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
rel
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Guam3521 Posts
May 10 2005 05:56 GMT
#160
So? still dosen't means he sucks, he just needs the extra security at home, cause he's so insecure about his skills perhaps.
I'll tank push my way into her heart. ☮♥&$!
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