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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 25 2011 11:52 GMT
#261
On September 25 2011 20:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 16:42 Sawamura wrote:
On September 25 2011 16:38 ShadeR wrote:
On September 25 2011 16:33 Sawamura wrote:
If sc2 is really great as what many people claim it to be , why are they demanding brood war players to go over their game , can't they make their own hero and say hey huk is the bisu of sc2 , MKP is the turn of sc2 , Nestea is the jaedong of sc2 and in every bw thread these annoying comments of XXXXX go to sc2 .

lol... cause there can on be one GOD????


flash is no longer god Jangbi owned him nicely in osl.


Never thought I would read this from sawa....Expected more from you....


Okay I take it back ;( Flash on purpose off god mode so he can rest his hands for his important surgery . Surely now he has switched on that innate switch to become the god young ho again .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
September 25 2011 12:17 GMT
#262
On September 25 2011 20:51 wezzon wrote:
On the SC2 money subject. Some teams have salary, it's nowhere near the 200k+ he makes in broodwar but its a livable start and I'm sure alot of teams would be more than willing to give him a normal salary.

Anyway my point wasn't the above, in SC2 you can make 80k~ a month from winning GSL, Means jaedong would need to win 3 out of 12 GSLs a year to make equal or more than he does now.
If what everyone thinks about a real BW player switching to SC2 would rip the scene up is true then this would be no problem at all for him, he would probably even be able to take home more like 6-7 GSLs in a year. That's well more than doubling his salary if we're being optimistic.
Then theres MLG, Blizzcon, Dreamhack, IEM, Assembly etc for global fame and smaller price pool.

The money is there if you're talented.


80k$ a month is no longer the amount you recieve from winning a GSL, it was only a few first GSLs, now it is about 500k won, which is about 44774$ (if it hasnt benn changed recently) thats considerably lower than 80k$, and I would imagine that 200k$ for Jaedong is/was only his base salary which can go up (and quite much so especially if he gets into a good team and gets a shot to win SPL or individual championships)

On the other hand it may be possible for him to get a personal sponsorship as Boxer did, that could be considerably larger than salaries teams (in SC2) pay out.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
September 25 2011 12:54 GMT
#263
SC2 and brood war are DIFFERENT games. Even if SC2 team was able to pay JD salary (EG could) it would be retarded to pay so much for unproven player.
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Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
September 25 2011 12:58 GMT
#264
On September 25 2011 21:17 Jakalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 20:51 wezzon wrote:
On the SC2 money subject. Some teams have salary, it's nowhere near the 200k+ he makes in broodwar but its a livable start and I'm sure alot of teams would be more than willing to give him a normal salary.

Anyway my point wasn't the above, in SC2 you can make 80k~ a month from winning GSL, Means jaedong would need to win 3 out of 12 GSLs a year to make equal or more than he does now.
If what everyone thinks about a real BW player switching to SC2 would rip the scene up is true then this would be no problem at all for him, he would probably even be able to take home more like 6-7 GSLs in a year. That's well more than doubling his salary if we're being optimistic.
Then theres MLG, Blizzcon, Dreamhack, IEM, Assembly etc for global fame and smaller price pool.

The money is there if you're talented.


80k$ a month is no longer the amount you recieve from winning a GSL, it was only a few first GSLs, now it is about 500k won, which is about 44774$ (if it hasnt benn changed recently) thats considerably lower than 80k$, and I would imagine that 200k$ for Jaedong is/was only his base salary which can go up (and quite much so especially if he gets into a good team and gets a shot to win SPL or individual championships)

On the other hand it may be possible for him to get a personal sponsorship as Boxer did, that could be considerably larger than salaries teams (in SC2) pay out.


500K or 500M?
500K won is like 500 bux....
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
repsac
Profile Joined March 2011
91 Posts
September 25 2011 13:06 GMT
#265
bw pros get paid so much because they're of value to korean marketeers. sc2 ain't that big in korea; sc2 is still mostly a white thing. it ain't even on tv in korea, people have to pay to get it in watchable value, online. nobody who isn't into the scene even knows who mvp or nestea are.

if tha dong switched he could get a pretty good deal but he wouldn't get a huk deal.
Vuk_91
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia1690 Posts
September 25 2011 13:15 GMT
#266
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.

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Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
September 25 2011 13:19 GMT
#267
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW
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Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
September 25 2011 13:19 GMT
#268
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.


He already stated in an old interview that he _WILL_ switch, no time date but he will eventually.
nope
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 25 2011 13:25 GMT
#269
sc2 is not different enough that jaedong's skills won't translate.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
September 25 2011 13:40 GMT
#270
It's something he said I think when SC2 was still in beta lol. I think he was expecting SC2 to shoot off way more than it actually has, so this is not really relevant at all except to say that at some point he was thinking about it a long time ago. Do you still think you're gonna do everything you were thinking about doing a year ago? Especially if the interview about him wanting to lead ACE is more recent, I give that more credit to say it was a fleeting idea.

When he wrote that I bet he thought 'if the whole world is going to and watching one competition, surely the prize is going to be huge and prestigious!' but as it turns out there is just a million tiny tourneys, a lot of not very stable teams, and just nothing that everyone is watching. If SC2 lives on and consolidates and gets bigger I can see JD switching, but if SC2 stays the same or pitters out obviously he's not coming to save it. It'd be interesting to hear what he thinks of the gameplay today and if he likes it at all, but we don't have that luxury. We just have his thoughts before anyone knew how the game would play. So yeah... using this interview is a pretty weak argument. Get something more recent if you want to bring it up, cause I hear when jaedong was 5 years old he wanted to be a fireman and that probably isn't going to happen either.
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sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
September 25 2011 13:46 GMT
#271
On September 25 2011 22:40 Chef wrote:
It's something he said I think when SC2 was still in beta lol. I think he was expecting SC2 to shoot off way more than it actually has, so this is not really relevant at all except to say that at some point he was thinking about it a long time ago. Do you still think you're gonna do everything you were thinking about doing a year ago? Especially if the interview about him wanting to lead ACE is more recent, I give that more credit to say it was a fleeting idea.

When he wrote that I bet he thought 'if the whole world is going to and watching one competition, surely the prize is going to be huge and prestigious!' but as it turns out there is just a million tiny tourneys, a lot of not very stable teams, and just nothing that everyone is watching. If SC2 lives on and consolidates and gets bigger I can see JD switching, but if SC2 stays the same or pitters out obviously he's not coming to save it. It'd be interesting to hear what he thinks of the gameplay today and if he likes it at all, but we don't have that luxury. We just have his thoughts before anyone knew how the game would play. So yeah... using this interview is a pretty weak argument. Get something more recent if you want to bring it up, cause I hear when jaedong was 5 years old he wanted to be a fireman and that probably isn't going to happen either.



very good post. this pretty much reflects hat I thought.
he might eventually switch, but I wouldn't hold my breath. it's not going to happen:

- as long as BW is bigger in korea
- there is more money/fans/prestige in BW
- as long as he doesn't get an incredibly awesome deal

don't get me wrong. I would be soooo damn happy to see JD/Flash/Bisu/whatever switch to SC2, but unfortunately it won't happen any time soon.
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
September 25 2011 14:13 GMT
#272
On September 25 2011 22:19 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW

Re-read the thread. It was a mistranslation. He said:

I will definitely change to StarCraft II when I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

So, when SC2 grows up, he'll switch. It hasn't reached BW prestige and so he won't switch (yet).

Despite me saying all that, he could have of course changed his mind but we can't speculate on what we don't know.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-25 14:17:26
September 25 2011 14:16 GMT
#273
On September 25 2011 14:41 Dental Floss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 14:05 bearbuddy wrote:
Khan is really cheap, though. They're probably gonna settle for Roro, Shine, or killer. Conversely, they might just grab a rookie and develop him, like they did with Grape. STX has Hero, Modesty, and Calm... a bit underwhelming, but they've all appeared a decent number of times in proleague games, so I'm not sure STX would grab Jaedong. Hence, I'm inclined to believe that Jaedong would be on the new team-- what better PR than Jaedong? He's practically the poster boy for Lecaf/Hwaseung.


Whoa there; nobody settles for Killer. Mini-Dong is probably about as good as the Dong right now.


I initially typed Roro and Shine, then I remembered killer, and added him in there. lol. But still, would you pay Killer as much as you pay for JD? He's still the mini-Dong, and hasn't grown out of Jaedong's shadow yet.

On September 25 2011 14:46 Ideas wrote:
it's sort of sad that of the 3 teams disbanding, jaehoon is the best protoss lol. wookie has potential I guess but he hasnt proven any sort of consistency yet (since he is so new). he could be just a fluke like so many rookies before him (remember when classic had a huge winning streak?).


Lol, yeah. Protoss teams do pretty well in Proleague. I guess there's a reason it's called Proleague. *rimshot*

<.<
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
September 25 2011 15:05 GMT
#274
On September 25 2011 23:13 kuroshiroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 22:19 Tyree wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW

Re-read the thread. It was a mistranslation. He said:

I will definitely change to StarCraft II when I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

So, when SC2 grows up, he'll switch. It hasn't reached BW prestige and so he won't switch (yet).

Despite me saying all that, he could have of course changed his mind but we can't speculate on what we don't know.


I generally agree with what Chef said, however he most certainly said is and not when. It initially posted as if, then was changed to when:


How do you see the future of StarCraft: BroodWar and will you change to StarCraft 2?
- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar. We will see more international tournaments in SC2 compared to StarCraft: Broodwar and this will make the change natural for me. I want to build my reputation abroad and reach out to the international audience but when I decide to change game I can not say, it can be today, it can be tomorrow it can be in a couple of years.
.

Edit: Sorry for any misinterpretation. The correct translation is the one above.

Hellspawn from rakaka.se commented on the translation problem:
"The translation is a little bit updated. We are sorry for some confusion and misleading information. We're covering all the games at WCG and therefore on a final day like this it get's a little bit hectic. It was suppose to say "as I feel" and not "when I feel". We are also sorry about the mistranslation abotu the biggest news item in the interview that Jaedong will be switch to Starcraft 2 eventually. Hope you liked it anyway, cheers"

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Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
September 25 2011 15:51 GMT
#275
Q: Our time is up, but a lot of people are wondering about the player you never want to lose to, if you will use queens in the future, and if you're thinking about joining ACE.
A: Hmm... I don't want to lose to any player. Queen can become a good unit, or the game that ruins your play. If it works well during practice, I think I might use it in the future. My final dream as a progamer would be to make ACE win proleague. Maybe not win, but at least make it to the finals. Look forward to it haha.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137914

there we go. I'm pretty sure he's said it since then too but I can't seem to find it
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
September 25 2011 16:27 GMT
#276
On September 26 2011 00:51 Ikonn wrote:
Q: Our time is up, but a lot of people are wondering about the player you never want to lose to, if you will use queens in the future, and if you're thinking about joining ACE.
A: Hmm... I don't want to lose to any player. Queen can become a good unit, or the game that ruins your play. If it works well during practice, I think I might use it in the future. My final dream as a progamer would be to make ACE win proleague. Maybe not win, but at least make it to the finals. Look forward to it haha.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137914

there we go. I'm pretty sure he's said it since then too but I can't seem to find it



This would be a much much happier ending.
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Phayt
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada346 Posts
September 25 2011 19:01 GMT
#277
On September 26 2011 01:27 TheShimmy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2011 00:51 Ikonn wrote:
Q: Our time is up, but a lot of people are wondering about the player you never want to lose to, if you will use queens in the future, and if you're thinking about joining ACE.
A: Hmm... I don't want to lose to any player. Queen can become a good unit, or the game that ruins your play. If it works well during practice, I think I might use it in the future. My final dream as a progamer would be to make ACE win proleague. Maybe not win, but at least make it to the finals. Look forward to it haha.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=137914

there we go. I'm pretty sure he's said it since then too but I can't seem to find it



This would be a much much happier ending.


No no no no no no no

You leave Jaedong's hair alone.

Jakalo
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Latvia2350 Posts
September 25 2011 19:31 GMT
#278
On September 25 2011 21:58 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2011 21:17 Jakalo wrote:
On September 25 2011 20:51 wezzon wrote:
On the SC2 money subject. Some teams have salary, it's nowhere near the 200k+ he makes in broodwar but its a livable start and I'm sure alot of teams would be more than willing to give him a normal salary.

Anyway my point wasn't the above, in SC2 you can make 80k~ a month from winning GSL, Means jaedong would need to win 3 out of 12 GSLs a year to make equal or more than he does now.
If what everyone thinks about a real BW player switching to SC2 would rip the scene up is true then this would be no problem at all for him, he would probably even be able to take home more like 6-7 GSLs in a year. That's well more than doubling his salary if we're being optimistic.
Then theres MLG, Blizzcon, Dreamhack, IEM, Assembly etc for global fame and smaller price pool.

The money is there if you're talented.


80k$ a month is no longer the amount you recieve from winning a GSL, it was only a few first GSLs, now it is about 500k won, which is about 44774$ (if it hasnt benn changed recently) thats considerably lower than 80k$, and I would imagine that 200k$ for Jaedong is/was only his base salary which can go up (and quite much so especially if he gets into a good team and gets a shot to win SPL or individual championships)

On the other hand it may be possible for him to get a personal sponsorship as Boxer did, that could be considerably larger than salaries teams (in SC2) pay out.


500K or 500M?
500K won is like 500 bux....


500M, my bad.
Nostalgia is not as good as it used to be.
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
September 26 2011 07:52 GMT
#279
On September 25 2011 22:25 oneofthem wrote:
sc2 is not different enough that jaedong's skills won't translate.


I just want to see what they can show with their level of understanding the Starcraft as a whole (1 and 2)
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-26 08:09:30
September 26 2011 08:09 GMT
#280
I just wonder what team Jaedong is going to move to. Hopefully they announce something soon the suspense is killing me >>
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