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bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 08:48:08
September 27 2011 08:44 GMT
#301
6000 people in OSL finals and like 1/5 or 1/10 teenager who watched PL finals (something like that). and about 10mil straem viewers from China didnt get memo that its dying so many stupid people. Let it die goddamnit !

Stork[gm]
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66366 Posts
September 27 2011 11:51 GMT
#302
On September 27 2011 08:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 08:11 Telcontar wrote:
On September 27 2011 07:33 NoobSkills wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:20 Phyrigian wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:19 Tyree wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW


Yes, but he said it could be any time. It could be in 5 years, it could be right now. That's a little misleading because you took it kinda out of context.


I like SCBW more than SC2 (currently and perhaps forever), but he will be moving to SC2 soon. All the teams dying, and that one league being canceled, no team league probably. All that leads to a mass influx of SCBW players coming soon. It is unfortunate I don't know what killed SCBW cuz SC2 sure hasn't done it.

It's certainly not looking good, but I wouldn't completely write off BW yet. Other sponsors may be found and who knows? We might even get another broadcaster come in and replace MBC. Let's lay off the 'it's dead' talk until it actually happens.


While it could survive it seems like most people are cutting eventual possible losses.
Why it will probably die...
1. Even though the teams that disbanded weren't that great they're still no longer around which will make Team League kind of dull with no "underdog" to root for.
2. The broadcasting company that is looking to toss out one of the major leagues destroys an individual league.
3. Contracts expiring for many of the "rookie" players who all could come over and pick up an EASY GSL win or they could stick around and lose to Flash/JD
4. If these companies are teams are quitting they must know something we don't.

With team league dead and players most likely going to switch over the game will probably die and soon, unfortunate as it may be the worlds best gamers will be forced to play the worlds worst remake of a excellent game. Hopefully blizz doesn't fuckup HOTS.

1) That's personal preference.
2) While the fact that "that one league"'s main broadcasting is going to be gone, there are talks that another channel will take over the running of the MBCGame, under their own name of course. It is a blow, but it doesn't spell the end.
3) There are already enough B-teamers and rookies who don't get broadcast time. This will help the current pool of rookies. It's a good thing.
4) The companies who are quitting are doing so because they are smaller companies that can't afford to pay the expenses of running a team in the current economic situation, compared to huge companies like SK Telecom and Olleh KT. KT even increased the salaries of several players.

Team League = Proleague? How is Proleague dead if the finals attracted that many viewers and live audiences? Where are you getting such info? And name me one decent current player who's not a relic of the past who has moved over to SC2 permanently.
POGGERS
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
September 27 2011 12:06 GMT
#303
On September 27 2011 17:44 bgx wrote:
6000 people in OSL finals and like 1/5 or 1/10 teenager who watched PL finals (something like that). and about 10mil straem viewers from China didnt get memo that its dying so many stupid people. Let it die goddamnit !





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jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
September 27 2011 12:08 GMT
#304
On September 27 2011 08:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 08:11 Telcontar wrote:
On September 27 2011 07:33 NoobSkills wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:20 Phyrigian wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:19 Tyree wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW


Yes, but he said it could be any time. It could be in 5 years, it could be right now. That's a little misleading because you took it kinda out of context.


I like SCBW more than SC2 (currently and perhaps forever), but he will be moving to SC2 soon. All the teams dying, and that one league being canceled, no team league probably. All that leads to a mass influx of SCBW players coming soon. It is unfortunate I don't know what killed SCBW cuz SC2 sure hasn't done it.

It's certainly not looking good, but I wouldn't completely write off BW yet. Other sponsors may be found and who knows? We might even get another broadcaster come in and replace MBC. Let's lay off the 'it's dead' talk until it actually happens.


While it could survive it seems like most people are cutting eventual possible losses.
Why it will probably die...
1. Even though the teams that disbanded weren't that great they're still no longer around which will make Team League kind of dull with no "underdog" to root for.
2. The broadcasting company that is looking to toss out one of the major leagues destroys an individual league.
3. Contracts expiring for many of the "rookie" players who all could come over and pick up an EASY GSL win or they could stick around and lose to Flash/JD
4. If these companies are teams are quitting they must know something we don't.

With team league dead and players most likely going to switch over the game will probably die and soon, unfortunate as it may be the worlds best gamers will be forced to play the worlds worst remake of a excellent game. Hopefully blizz doesn't fuckup HOTS.


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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 27 2011 12:14 GMT
#305
On September 27 2011 21:06 4vvhiplash7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 17:44 bgx wrote:
6000 people in OSL finals and like 1/5 or 1/10 teenager who watched PL finals (something like that). and about 10mil straem viewers from China didnt get memo that its dying so many stupid people. Let it die goddamnit !





he's being sarcastic no need to ban him.
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 13:35:39
September 27 2011 13:35 GMT
#306
On September 27 2011 08:33 NoobSkills wrote:
3. Contracts expiring for many of the "rookie" players who all could come over and pick up an EASY GSL win or they could stick around and lose to Flash/JD


Way to look down on other people. If they wanted money I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have become progamers. Ok I guess there will be some jackasses who thinks they can get rich playing sc.....
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RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
September 27 2011 13:44 GMT
#307
Why do all these threads end up in sc2 v bw debates -.- It's not even just in the bw forum either in the sc2 forums these trolls keep popping up too.
shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 13:51:29
September 27 2011 13:51 GMT
#308
It would be cool if JD changed to SC2 but i don't see it happenning.. It would be like MJ changing from basketball to baseball.. oh wait that allready happened.. hmm how did it went?

Ok so it's not the same thing but JD is a bw player and should remain so! We allready have to many excellent players and the BW guys deserve a brake after so many bad news!

hope everything turn out nice!
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yellowguan
Profile Joined December 2010
43 Posts
September 27 2011 14:29 GMT
#309
If i recall from way deep in the TL archives that Jaedong will most likely switch to SC2, so it still is a possibility
ppshchik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States862 Posts
September 27 2011 14:32 GMT
#310
Jaedong in a WCG interview said that he wants to recognized world wide more by playing SC2, TBH I think many Koreans are anonymous of how famous they are abroad.If you really want to thank your foreigner fans plz stay in Broodwar.....SC2 is a flop with its life being extended with high prize pools and players will quit eventually once they suck the prize pool dry....

User was warned for this post
Legends never die... they end up working in McDonalds.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 27 2011 14:37 GMT
#311
On September 27 2011 08:33 NoobSkills wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 08:11 Telcontar wrote:
On September 27 2011 07:33 NoobSkills wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:20 Phyrigian wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:19 Tyree wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW


Yes, but he said it could be any time. It could be in 5 years, it could be right now. That's a little misleading because you took it kinda out of context.


I like SCBW more than SC2 (currently and perhaps forever), but he will be moving to SC2 soon. All the teams dying, and that one league being canceled, no team league probably. All that leads to a mass influx of SCBW players coming soon. It is unfortunate I don't know what killed SCBW cuz SC2 sure hasn't done it.

It's certainly not looking good, but I wouldn't completely write off BW yet. Other sponsors may be found and who knows? We might even get another broadcaster come in and replace MBC. Let's lay off the 'it's dead' talk until it actually happens.


While it could survive it seems like most people are cutting eventual possible losses.
Why it will probably die...
1. Even though the teams that disbanded weren't that great they're still no longer around which will make Team League kind of dull with no "underdog" to root for.
2. The broadcasting company that is looking to toss out one of the major leagues destroys an individual league.
3. Contracts expiring for many of the "rookie" players who all could come over and pick up an EASY GSL win or they could stick around and lose to Flash/JD
4. If these companies are teams are quitting they must know something we don't.

With team league dead and players most likely going to switch over the game will probably die and soon, unfortunate as it may be the worlds best gamers will be forced to play the worlds worst remake of a excellent game. Hopefully blizz doesn't fuckup HOTS.


Aaaand the terrible troll award of today goes to.... NoobSkills!
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
BigKahunaBurger
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia334 Posts
September 27 2011 15:58 GMT
#312
On September 27 2011 23:32 ppshchik wrote:
Jaedong in a WCG interview said that he wants to recognized world wide more by playing SC2, TBH I think many Koreans are anonymous of how famous they are abroad.If you really want to thank your foreigner fans plz stay in Broodwar.....SC2 is a flop with its life being extended with high prize pools and players will quit eventually once they suck the prize pool dry....


This would make sense, if it weren't for the fact that Brood War is dead and buried internationally and that any korean who plays SC2 is a goddamn rockstar when they come to an MLG. Jaedong said he wants to be recognized internationally and this is the way to do it.

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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
September 27 2011 16:40 GMT
#313
Why do people keep bumping this thread in lieu of any update on Jaedong? There are plenty of SC2/BW threads out there. Why bump this particular thread...
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like I just did?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 27 2011 16:54 GMT
#314
On September 28 2011 00:58 BigKahunaBurger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 23:32 ppshchik wrote:
Jaedong in a WCG interview said that he wants to recognized world wide more by playing SC2, TBH I think many Koreans are anonymous of how famous they are abroad.If you really want to thank your foreigner fans plz stay in Broodwar.....SC2 is a flop with its life being extended with high prize pools and players will quit eventually once they suck the prize pool dry....


This would make sense, if it weren't for the fact that Brood War is dead and buried internationally and that any korean who plays SC2 is a goddamn rockstar when they come to an MLG. Jaedong said he wants to be recognized internationally and this is the way to do it.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=&t=c&f=-1&u=BigKahunaBurger&gb=date

Nice knowing that your post history only shows

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GSLGSLGSLGSLGSLGSLGSL


and thanks for calling the bw scene has died in korea and to all the young kids in korea who aspire to be the next jaedong,flash and bisu probably are crying right now . Way to go my friend, I know that these post is kind of tolerated XXXXXX go sc2 for the sake of esport mantra and all of that stuff . If people fail to realized how prestigous and hard these game is . How many hours and time has been put up just to get broodwar to it's level now.They wouldn't have easily come so easy to a conclusion XXXX go to sc2 .

As you know the bw scene wasn't constructed by hype or money pool it all started with people sincerely wanting to play the game's they love and get paid at the same time . Just read crazyasme boxer blog and you would have gotten a picture how much time they have put in for a so called game . http://boxerbiography.blogspot.com/

Do you really think sc2 is willing to take on a guy who will devote his whole live to destroy all opposition any team or individual that you so called by many TOP 2 Micro ?.You haven't seen how crazy he could be when he was at his prime.

Even mentioning his name in a game you are suppose to play with him is enough to send you shivering in the game booth . Jaedong has been a monster in broodwar and although he hasn't been himself lately and even in he's so called weaken state he still destroys flash in TvZ all the time . Oz fan's has been waiting for the tyrant to take his throne back and to destroy the blasphemous revolution Hydra has started in the zerg hive.

These year jaedong is probably has set in his mind to overcome all hardship in his way probably even learning from jangbi that there is a way to come back to the top seeding again that is through hardwork and dedication.

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BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
September 27 2011 17:04 GMT
#315
On September 28 2011 01:54 Sawamura wrote:

and thanks for calling the bw scene has died in korea and to all the young kids in korea who aspire to be the next jaedong,flash and bisu probably are crying right now . Way to go my friend, I know that these post is kind of tolerated XXXXXX go sc2 for the sake of esport mantra and all of that stuff . If people fail to realized how prestigous and hard these game is . How many hours and time has been put up just to get broodwar to it's level now.They wouldn't have easily come so easy to a conclusion XXXX go to sc2 .



You're over-reacting here. He said it's dead internationally, which is actually half true... if you count internationally as the western world. People forget China way too often, and it has the potential to power Esports with looser regulations. WCG in Chengdu? Broodwar easily had 20k people watching finals live. SPL in Shanghai? People came from all across China, though was cockblocked by by a hurricane. The "global" section in DES is not in English, but in Chinese.
Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:10:50
September 27 2011 18:08 GMT
#316
The content of this thread is obviously a statement from teamliquid that we're no longer allowed a SC:BW section on this site without being trolled to death. Honestly, couldn't we be allowed to have the sc:bw section of this site in peace and quiet without being harrased by loads of children who have just taken up sc2? Isn't that fair?
I've followed the pro-scene in BW for 12 years now and I do not understand why long time fans of this site and game should be harrased while browsing the site.
........
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 18:56:35
September 27 2011 18:56 GMT
#317
On September 27 2011 20:51 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 08:33 NoobSkills wrote:
On September 27 2011 08:11 Telcontar wrote:
On September 27 2011 07:33 NoobSkills wrote:
On September 27 2011 06:20 Phyrigian wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:19 Tyree wrote:
On September 25 2011 22:15 Vuk_91 wrote:
Would you stop with SC2? It`s a crappy game,and I`m sure someone like Jaedong won`t sell his but for money.



The topic is about his whereabouts and what he is doing, considering there is a interview of him a year ago saying he will switch at some point:

- I will definitely change to StarCraft II as I feel that StarCraft 2 is having a higher status then StarCraft: Broodwar.

Then it is pretty relevant to this topic, as the possibility is there. Hopefully he is just taking a minor back and will be back in BW


Yes, but he said it could be any time. It could be in 5 years, it could be right now. That's a little misleading because you took it kinda out of context.


I like SCBW more than SC2 (currently and perhaps forever), but he will be moving to SC2 soon. All the teams dying, and that one league being canceled, no team league probably. All that leads to a mass influx of SCBW players coming soon. It is unfortunate I don't know what killed SCBW cuz SC2 sure hasn't done it.

It's certainly not looking good, but I wouldn't completely write off BW yet. Other sponsors may be found and who knows? We might even get another broadcaster come in and replace MBC. Let's lay off the 'it's dead' talk until it actually happens.


While it could survive it seems like most people are cutting eventual possible losses.
Why it will probably die...
1. Even though the teams that disbanded weren't that great they're still no longer around which will make Team League kind of dull with no "underdog" to root for.
2. The broadcasting company that is looking to toss out one of the major leagues destroys an individual league.
3. Contracts expiring for many of the "rookie" players who all could come over and pick up an EASY GSL win or they could stick around and lose to Flash/JD
4. If these companies are teams are quitting they must know something we don't.

With team league dead and players most likely going to switch over the game will probably die and soon, unfortunate as it may be the worlds best gamers will be forced to play the worlds worst remake of a excellent game. Hopefully blizz doesn't fuckup HOTS.

1) That's personal preference.
2) While the fact that "that one league"'s main broadcasting is going to be gone, there are talks that another channel will take over the running of the MBCGame, under their own name of course. It is a blow, but it doesn't spell the end.
3) There are already enough B-teamers and rookies who don't get broadcast time. This will help the current pool of rookies. It's a good thing.
4) The companies who are quitting are doing so because they are smaller companies that can't afford to pay the expenses of running a team in the current economic situation, compared to huge companies like SK Telecom and Olleh KT. KT even increased the salaries of several players.

Team League = Proleague? How is Proleague dead if the finals attracted that many viewers and live audiences? Where are you getting such info? And name me one decent current player who's not a relic of the past who has moved over to SC2 permanently.


Oh come on Kona, don't call them that!
They deserve so much respect for establishing the foundation of BW today!
Legends will always stay legends in these annals.
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Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
September 27 2011 20:49 GMT
#318
I hope JD doesnt join KT, how is SKT supposed to win PL next season if their rivals suddenly become so strong!
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
IreScath
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada521 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 21:24:06
September 27 2011 21:23 GMT
#319
On September 27 2011 23:32 ppshchik wrote:
Jaedong in a WCG interview said that he wants to recognized world wide more by playing SC2, TBH I think many Koreans are anonymous of how famous they are abroad.If you really want to thank your foreigner fans plz stay in Broodwar.....SC2 is a flop with its life being extended with high prize pools and players will quit eventually once they suck the prize pool dry....


Really?... I've only seen it grow pretty consistently since launch... I guess i could be wrong, but I doubt it.

EDIT: But I guess with the recent Kespa announcement Jaedong will most likely end up on one of the new teams.
IreScath
Clove
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom5 Posts
September 27 2011 22:15 GMT
#320
I seriously hope that Jaedong gets onto some team and doesn't miss out on any major tournament. As long as he doesn't need to carry the team totally, it would still be great to watch him play again

Its WAY too early for him to jump the sc2 bandwagon yet when there is much more money for him to be earnt in the BW scene, but I can't say I wouldn't like him to play Terran in sc2
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