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Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 27 2011 23:25 GMT
#61
On July 28 2011 08:23 Rinrun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:22 ThePianoDentist wrote:
for anybody wanting to purchase brood war for single player i recently got it cheap off amazon but couldnt find any cd key anywhere, but if you have a problem with that just google brood war cd key generator.


How dare you? Talking about a key gen? Buy the game, support them.

My Raynor Dog Tag kinda is a key gen..... you know unlimited CD codes
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wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
July 27 2011 23:29 GMT
#62
On July 28 2011 08:23 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:22 Crisium wrote:
So it annoys you when someone points out SC2 trolls on a Brood War forum? You are attempting to compare that to your baseless remarks that ignore several pages worth of examples?

Sorry just read some of the other comments I must say it was pretty bad I'll accept my loss here. But I honestly just get the feel alot of Brood War fans are elitist people that just look down on other people because we play SC2.


No one looks down on other people for playing some other videogame. People get annoyed when SC2 players come to the BW section to perform SC2 chest beating on a topic that has nothing to do with SC2. Yellow retire -> he coming to sc2!!! MBCgame in trouble -> Flash coming to sc2!!!

It has no merit and its annoying.
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
July 27 2011 23:30 GMT
#63
Because there's a lot of immature and ignorant SC2 fans that keep talking about how great SC2 is and dismiss BW, or how they keep mentioning on their pros should switch over to SC2 instead of playing BW.
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
July 27 2011 23:30 GMT
#64
it's just irritating that whenever a newsitem gets posted with even the smallest bit of negativity wrt Brood War, there will inevitably be a group of SC2 fans (and it's a very small vocal minority, I realize that) that'll jump in there and post stuff like "so bw is dying? cool, is Flash playing SC2 yet?". It grinds my gears.

I personally have no hate for SC2, I even still have it installed, I just have no interest in watching it after trying some games from the TSL3. I think that if BW were to die I'll just find a different hobby
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
July 27 2011 23:31 GMT
#65
On July 28 2011 08:23 Rinrun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:22 ThePianoDentist wrote:
for anybody wanting to purchase brood war for single player i recently got it cheap off amazon but couldnt find any cd key anywhere, but if you have a problem with that just google brood war cd key generator.


How dare you? Talking about a key gen? Buy the game, support them.

Besides the above, I accept both with open arms.


erm....i did buy the game?
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 23:35:59
July 27 2011 23:33 GMT
#66
Honestly, if you want a list of reasons why the two communities are at odds, try the MBCGame thread, which is a cesspool of trolls, and people typing eSports in all-caps (pet peeve).

On July 27 2011 21:32 HEROwithNOlegacy wrote:
Cya later broodwar, Starcraft II will easily become king now with contracts up in august and MBCgame announcing their change to a music station. Gl to the players and MBC game.

User was warned for this post


On July 27 2011 17:36 SCSaampson wrote:
I can't wait for SC:BW to be gone. This is the first step. Old games are old.

User was banned for this post.


On July 27 2011 17:43 Abrafred wrote:
silly hipsters.. bw is old

User was temp banned for this post.



On July 28 2011 01:56 rasers wrote:
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On July 28 2011 01:39 raistline123 wrote:
On July 28 2011 01:35 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 28 2011 01:24 raistline123 wrote:
I apologize for asking this question, but why is everyone saying that if BW dies e-sports will follow behind it?

And why would it be bad for the SC2 scene?


A major media company decides eSports is not a worthy investment, how could it not be bad for SC2?



A major media company in Korea, SC2 is thriving in the west. I'm not trying to be rude or cause any trouble, but I can't see how this would effect SC2 or E-sports in general.

Yea it may be dying in Korea but ESPORTS is thriving throughout the rest of the world

how is there some "esport" in the fuckign west? its NOTHING. u kids go berserk over 80k people WORLD WIDE FUCKING WORLD WIDE. this is like nothing? fucking west "esport" is a joke. u throw 500 tournaments at each other. top 10 can make a living out of it. rest can mb play it for 1 year fulltime and then do somethign else again. how can u srsly call that a sports?

and now that u have koreanas coming over getting the money.

4 5 years from now on. next big RTS or whatever "omg THE esports game" will come out. and everyone of you will say "cu SCII time for somethign new" how the fuck is that a sports?.


I have to admit, though, I love "koreanas"


On July 28 2011 07:47 rasers wrote:
"passion. SC2." i loled :D 4 5 yearsa from now on Wc4 or SC3 or wahtever comes out and ur passion for this awful game is gone because u will jump on the new shit. nice passion you have there.


This is actually the one that always bugs me. The "Even SC2 fans don't like SC2, they just think they do because they're stupid".

It's just a lot of trolls, and that fosters hate for everyone else.

On July 28 2011 08:29 wassbix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:23 Blasterion wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:22 Crisium wrote:
So it annoys you when someone points out SC2 trolls on a Brood War forum? You are attempting to compare that to your baseless remarks that ignore several pages worth of examples?

Sorry just read some of the other comments I must say it was pretty bad I'll accept my loss here. But I honestly just get the feel alot of Brood War fans are elitist people that just look down on other people because we play SC2.


No one looks down on other people for playing some other videogame.


Yes, they totally do.
humanimal
Profile Joined June 2010
United States151 Posts
July 27 2011 23:39 GMT
#67
On July 28 2011 08:29 wassbix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:23 Blasterion wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:22 Crisium wrote:
So it annoys you when someone points out SC2 trolls on a Brood War forum? You are attempting to compare that to your baseless remarks that ignore several pages worth of examples?

Sorry just read some of the other comments I must say it was pretty bad I'll accept my loss here. But I honestly just get the feel alot of Brood War fans are elitist people that just look down on other people because we play SC2.


No one looks down on other people for playing some other videogame. People get annoyed when SC2 players come to the BW section to perform SC2 chest beating on a topic that has nothing to do with SC2. Yellow retire -> he coming to sc2!!! MBCgame in trouble -> Flash coming to sc2!!!

It has no merit and its annoying.


Sadly some people do. Much of it because they want SC2 to play more like BW (which i personally would like). The focuses of the game just end up being different (mechanically) and there's disputes over how that affects gameplay. Hopefully blizzard will continue patching in the right direction and we'll eventually get something for all to love...
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3130 Posts
July 27 2011 23:43 GMT
#68
On July 28 2011 08:23 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:22 Crisium wrote:
So it annoys you when someone points out SC2 trolls on a Brood War forum? You are attempting to compare that to your baseless remarks that ignore several pages worth of examples?

Sorry just read some of the other comments I must say it was pretty bad I'll accept my loss here. But I honestly just get the feel alot of Brood War fans are elitist people that just look down on other people because we play SC2.


I dont look down on pro sc2 players but I definitely look down on the rest. I feel no guilt in thinking that players that are afraid of single building select and the lack of a find match button are cowards
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
July 27 2011 23:44 GMT
#69
its not as bad as the clash between pc and console gamers on battlefield forums for bad company 2 lol. so many people got banned, if anyone thinks bw players are elitist dics you should see some pc fps gamers.

having spent time on forums with way lower moderation that this i've just learnt to develop a good trolldar and just ignore stupid posts....often my own :shifty:
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
July 27 2011 23:45 GMT
#70
On July 28 2011 06:18 Eternal Dalek wrote:
I'm a Starcraft 2 player, and I sometimes lurk in the other forums here on TL.net to check up on how things are going. One thing that I have noticed in the BW forums is the hostility towards Starcraft 2, and to a lesser extent, its players. I find this quite odd as most Starcraft 2 players and pros that I know of speak very fondly of BW, placing it high on a pedestal as one of the greatest creations of humanity.

BW fans hate SC2, SC2 fans hate League of Legends. The SC2 community has no right to complain about intolerance from the BW community.
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ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
July 27 2011 23:49 GMT
#71
On July 28 2011 08:43 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 08:23 Blasterion wrote:
On July 28 2011 08:22 Crisium wrote:
So it annoys you when someone points out SC2 trolls on a Brood War forum? You are attempting to compare that to your baseless remarks that ignore several pages worth of examples?

Sorry just read some of the other comments I must say it was pretty bad I'll accept my loss here. But I honestly just get the feel alot of Brood War fans are elitist people that just look down on other people because we play SC2.


I dont look down on pro sc2 players but I definitely look down on the rest. I feel no guilt in thinking that players that are afraid of single building select and the lack of a find match button are cowards


i doubt someone would choose to play sc2 over brood war just because you can ctrl group buildings?

maybe that's the kind of elitist attitude the 'troll'? mentioned. there's no reason to look down on anyone. yes a few things like that make bw mechanics a bit harder, but maybe people just prefer the more streamlined slightly simpler mechanics allowing them to focus more on battles and strategies...doesnt make them a better or worse player or deserved to be looked down upon.
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 23:59:09
July 27 2011 23:55 GMT
#72
This is a good place for people to release their frustrations.

I personally fall under the 'I really don't care' (like how I would handle homosexuals), I wish all the success to SC2 and honestly this being internets there will always be flames on both sides anyhow. Now whether this segregation is actually good for the community is another matter...

@ThePianoDentist
yep, that's the elitist attitude. Or at least other people will perceive it as one. As long as every member of each community have their opinions, conflict - like I said before - will simply be inevitable. But at least we can be civil about it~
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
July 27 2011 23:56 GMT
#73
Yeah, the thing is all the hostility I've seen actually comes out every time there's a BW stream, some random sc2 player pops in with the standard " Do ppl still play BW lolz? " or "Theese graphics are horrible" etc etc, I don't really know what other hostility there is
Besides as soon as someone or anyone wants to start playing BW and they've made a thread they get heaps of support, advice and encouragement so I think you're just looking in the wrong places.
You said that some of your friends hold BW in high regard, It is not odd since alot of Sc2 players that have played the game actually enjoyed it but the majority of people who play BW are actually people who have played Sc2 and they have renounced it, for a reason and hence most people who play Bw actually hate the game.
I'm sorry if I'm not making as much sense as would be expected of me but I am a little tired

Oh! just thought of something, the thing with the sc2 people trolling on Bw streams all the time is the reason for the "No Sc2 talk" rule on most BW streams since everytime it happens a shitstorm erupts and no streamer wants that.
BW for life !
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
July 27 2011 23:59 GMT
#74
I personally feel like SC2 sucked a lot of life out of the BroodWar scene. I played SC2, and it was a lot of fun, but on the flip side, I still enjoy BroodWar more. I have an uncanny fondness for BW, almost protective of it. If that seems silly, it could very well be just that - but a few thousand people left in the foreign scene of BroodWar feel the same way. Therefore, when SC2 looks like a threat to "our" precious BroodWar, naturally, there's going to be hostility towards the evil outsider.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
July 28 2011 00:05 GMT
#75
i've been boycotting sc2 because blizzard is such a dick
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
July 28 2011 00:05 GMT
#76
On July 28 2011 07:25 Kipsate wrote:
Because there is always someone who must click the OSL/MSL/PL stream on the sidebar and type

:

People still play this game?
Some shit about graphics.
Make vikings or infestors
Why haven't they switched to sc2 yet''

or something along that, while it doesn't picture the entire SC2 community at all, I tend to get 5 or more trolls each time BW is on, its annoying as hell. You don't see BW people enter a SC2 stream and start telling people that their X favorite player would be nothing then a scrub or a B teamer at best in BW. . Moreover, I have argued in multiple SC2 VS BW threads and really, for some reason people can not look beyond the LOL NO MBS AND AUTOMINING IS STUPID and find the real reasons why BW is such a good game.

Then again, I haven't been here a long while so I don't know what the old Bw forums were like(e.g 3 years ago) but that is my observation for now.

This sums up what I was going to say for the most part. 90% of the people I have banned from my stream chat are from people who come in and say that kind of crap you listed.

I have nothing against SC2 itself, but it irks me when SC2 > BW players feel they need to cause a scene. I only see BW guys start flaming in retaliation for the most part.
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KoTakUEurO
Profile Joined May 2011
605 Posts
July 28 2011 00:16 GMT
#77
i think in general ppl don't hate SC2, I myself avidly watch all SC2 tourneys and BW ones. I think what ticks ppl off is ppl who have never played BW or haven't read threads coming around and going "There's a sequel to BW u know, why don't u switch"
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
July 28 2011 00:17 GMT
#78
The bitterness is not from the outside, or the new sc2 player influx, it is from ourselves. Some of the bitterness is related to coming to accept the world around us changing, when we do not. You see, in the larger scale, the casualisation of the gaming culture is one of the hardest things to come to copes for diehards
Aah thats the stuff..
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 00:34:48
July 28 2011 00:20 GMT
#79
My biggest issue is that sc2 fans on tl (which outnumber bw these days by quite a bit) like to stroll into BW general any time there's a new thread or bw news update and inject offtopic sc2 shit, which they know full-well will just annoy the bw fans. Every time.

Flash's wrist? come to sc2!
STX roster trades? zomg come to sc2!
bnet attack? i want _____ to move to sc2 already!
YellOw reitiring? oh god slayers'yellow!1!eleven!
mbcgame changing format? this is great news for sc2!
LR threads? he needs to get broodlords!

And that isn't even counting the trolls who just come in to say "bw sucks" / "bw is going to die" / "these graphics are terrible" / "i cant believe these guys are still playing such an ancient game" / etc.

Believe me, it gets old quite fast. If sc2 fans wanted to, they could just make a circlejerk thread for these comments in sc2 general and it wouldn't bother us in the least.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
July 28 2011 00:24 GMT
#80
On July 28 2011 09:17 xarthaz wrote:
The bitterness is not from the outside, or the new sc2 player influx, it is from ourselves. Some of the bitterness is related to coming to accept the world around us changing, when we do not. You see, in the larger scale, the casualisation of the gaming culture is one of the hardest things to come to copes for diehards


Obviously BW is going to die sooner or later, that's not what annoys people. What annoys people is people injecting SC2 into BW thread when many people in BW section simply don't follow or care for SC2.
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