EPTOn July 05 2011 15:16 LuckyMacro wrote:
Maybe he has a secret girlfriend...or secretly playing cellphone games with stork..
Maybe he has a secret girlfriend...or secretly playing cellphone games with stork..
I wouldn't be surprised...
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intotheheart
Canada33091 Posts
I wouldn't be surprised... | ||
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baubo
China3370 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:38 hitthat wrote: you have to had a really hard time during last OSL, have you? XD True Fantasy fans will never bash him, no metter he's in form or not. True SKT fans will remember his games in SPL against JD, his MSL games against Flash, his games against Stork and Bisu. That he carried his team through the darkest time, when both Bisu and Best were in deep slump. And i know he will be back. I admit. Last OSL hit me hard. But believe it or not, I was only pissed at Stork because I thought Stork learned his lesson from Flash's thumping. Fantasy played it like the finals. Stork played like it was a proleague match. Fantasy won. I could only shake my head at Stork. Nothing against Fantasy. The only thing I'm pissed about last OSL is that Fantasy won despite that complete and utter failure of TvZ against Calm in the semi-finals. If he had shown Flash-like TvZ in the semis, I would just tip my hat to him for winning it all. Anyway, my general beef with Fantasy is that I don't find him to be less "complete" compared to other top players. TvTs aside, his entire game is BOs and harass. Yes, I know I'm generalizing a bit, but other parts of Fantasy's game look very mediocre. This is why when fantasy loses, he also looks bad. Other top players harass and try to use good builds that counter their opponents, but they don't "rely" on them. So if everything proceed normally or even disadvantageously into the mid-late game, they still have a good chance to win. Fantasy, if his harass doesn't work, generally just fall apart. | ||
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
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Vazze
Sweden279 Posts
I would be surprised on the girlfriend part, as Fantasy himself said that he wasn't interested in girls in an interview. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7886 Posts
Since that game he is 8-13. :-) | ||
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erin[go]bragh
United States815 Posts
I don't think SKT fans need to worry too much, especially considering that their zergs and tosses are actually quite consistent nowadays. | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On July 05 2011 13:16 dRaW wrote: Fantasy has been playing horribly lately, but so has stork... IMO both deserve to goto B team until they can show results in practice more consistently. Even JyJ (rookie T on SKT) is playing better than fantasy...  Fantasy has been quite reliable in PL since his OSL run. He has lost 6 games in a row recently but if you look at Winners League and before round 6 of PL he was doing pretty well.Fantasy's TLPD All Games Played Recently It seems like after Fantasy lost to Soulkey twice in the ABCMSL he lost a lot of confidence, motivation or whatever in vZ. His mech switches from heavy bio/valk pressure in early game are not working anymore. There were very long and drawn out games on Dante's Peak (Fantasy v Soulkey on Dante's Peak Fantasy meche'd and lost hard to queens broodling over and over. The Monte Cristo was .....sad T.T Now fantasy is trying to use bio but it is clear that unlike his sublime vulture micro/multitask his bio is looks and attacks rather clumsily and he seems to lack the gamesense many hardcore bio terrans acquired over years of vZ play (Flash, Hwasin, FBH, Ruby, Casy come to mind). So many slaughtered marines from hold lurkers..... edit: I will admit that the last 6 losses have been so painful to watch with many of those games added to the Fantasy GG Timing thread: Fantasy's GG Timing Thread | ||
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Ultimate Weapon
United States132 Posts
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DirtYLOu
575 Posts
On July 06 2011 12:20 GhoSt[shield] wrote: Fantasy has been quite reliable in PL since his OSL run. He has lost 6 games in a row recently but if you look at Winners League and before round 6 of PL he was doing pretty well.Fantasy's TLPD All Games Played Recently It seems like after Fantasy lost to Soulkey twice in the ABCMSL he lost a lot of confidence, motivation or whatever in vZ. His mech switches from heavy bio/valk pressure in early game are not working anymore. There were very long and drawn out games on Dante's Peak (Fantasy v Soulkey on Dante's Peak Fantasy meche'd and lost hard to queens broodling over and over. The Monte Cristo was .....sad T.T Now fantasy is trying to use bio but it is clear that unlike his sublime vulture micro/multitask his bio is looks and attacks rather clumsily and he seems to lack the gamesense many hardcore bio terrans acquired over years of vZ play (Flash, Hwasin, FBH, Ruby, Casy come to mind). So many slaughtered marines from hold lurkers..... edit: I will admit that the last 6 losses have been so painful to watch with many of those games added to the Fantasy GG Timing thread: Fantasy's GG Timing Thread In my eyes Fanta was/is/wll be always shaky. From Late april/early may it's even worse... | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On July 05 2011 00:58 SimonB wrote: Surprised that they sent him down to the B-team in the first place. Usually when teams do that, the player is REALLY mired in a mega slump. He hasn't been playing well since his OSL win, but I didn't think it got nearly that bad. Edit: Check that, he was actually quite good even after his OSL win; he just had a bad spell starting in April. I thought that happened a lot. I remember when a few gamers were slumping and decided to drop themselves to B team for a bit to work things out. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On July 05 2011 09:22 prototype. wrote: Don't worry guys. You can always count on fantasy to bring his A game during a finals match. Fact: SK Telecom T1 is seeded into the grand finals Fact: Fantasy is 4-0 in PL grand finals. | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:34 Zona wrote: Fact: SK Telecom T1 is seeded into the grand finals Fact: Fantasy is 4-0 in PL grand finals. Fact: CJ will be playing in the grand finals Fact: CJs awesome coaching and set planning will enable a skyhigh vs fantasy game Fact: skyhigh has like an 11-1 W/L in PL playoffs or something ridiculous like that Fact: Fantasy is 0-6 vs skyhigh | ||
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moopie
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miky_ardiente
Mexico387 Posts
On July 09 2011 08:51 xxpack09 wrote: Fact: CJ will be playing in the grand finals Fact: CJs awesome coaching and set planning will enable a skyhigh vs fantasy game Fact: skyhigh has like an 11-1 W/L in PL playoffs or something ridiculous like that Fact: Fantasy is 0-6 vs skyhigh lol i never understan why people rely so much on the past, sure i guess it increases ur chances but a new game is a new game, anything can happen, fantasy had never beat snow until that day when he made the 3 kill (snow (who was the PvT bonjwa) movie and someone else) even if fantasy or someone else usually does good in playoffs, i dont expect him/them to be super awesome i just expect that he goes 1 game at a time doing his best effort, even if i were a cj fan i wouldnt be so confident, i know what fantasy is capable of when he has time to prepare, did u see osl finals, he owned stork badly, he can go super awesome or super fail, so yeah he can lose to skyhigh or finally beat him like when snow, u'll never know until u see the match skt scariest player is not bisu, even at his s class level and how good he is, at least u can read his game style and prepare for him, with fantasy, u never know, he can come up with a surprise every game | ||
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Seraphic
United States3849 Posts
On July 09 2011 10:15 miky_ardiente wrote: lol i never understan why people rely so much on the past, sure i guess it increases ur chances but a new game is a new game, anything can happen, fantasy had never beat snow until that day when he made the 3 kill (snow (who was the PvT bonjwa) movie and someone else) even if fantasy or someone else usually does good in playoffs, i dont expect him/them to be super awesome i just expect that he goes 1 game at a time doing his best effort, even if i were a cj fan i wouldnt be so confident, i know what fantasy is capable of when he has time to prepare, did u see osl finals, he owned stork badly, he can go super awesome or super fail, so yeah he can lose to skyhigh or finally beat him like when snow, u'll never know until u see the match skt scariest player is not bisu, even at his s class level and how good he is, at least u can read his game style and prepare for him, with fantasy, u never know, he can come up with a surprise every game That maybe true but you are forgetting Fantasy has a tendency to just fall on his face doing those "surprises." And usually it turns into one of those epic, "wtf are you doing" Fantasy moments. Fantasy is just one of those players with a very, VERY high ceiling Skill wise, but also a very bad pit that he can fall into. People can prepare for Bisu yes, but when Bisu is on his game (as like now. his S-class Taek Shin self) no matter how much you prepare, he'll find a way to win regardless. Like his recent game vs Hiya for instance. Fantasy on the other hand, has his little tricks but if he misses one step like he usually does, it won't work and he'll just fall apart completely. He's way to heavily reliant on ooV. While I still believe he's the clear 2nd Terran to Flash, I have doubts in his games majority of the time. His Finals with Stork was an exception because he took it seriously while Stork didn't really do so. Stork admitted to that in an interview I remember reading. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
but I am going to laugh if he faces Skyhigh. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
 Jesus. SKT will get 4:0'ed by whatever team they face, there, I'm going to jinx your asses for all the winning. | ||
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