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http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_65425.html
not sure if it's a fomos article so I won't directly translate it. Basically  Fantasy was send to B team for "special" training after his poor performance. And he came back to A team yesterday for the SKT v CJ match. For those didn't watch that match yet, I won't spoil it for you. But you probably want to avoid this thread for the moment since it's hard to discuss his "training" without mentioning the SKY v CJ game.
SKT CJ spoiler (for discussion)
+ Show Spoiler +Game 2: Where(Z) < Neo Aztec > Fantasy(T)
Fantasy was rated a low D+ for his "come back" match.
And TvZ was once his special. Remember Oov told boxer that he and Fantasy has a 100% win vZ build?
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Surprised that they sent him down to the B-team in the first place. Usually when teams do that, the player is REALLY mired in a mega slump. He hasn't been playing well since his OSL win, but I didn't think it got nearly that bad.
Edit: Check that, he was actually quite good even after his OSL win; he just had a bad spell starting in April.
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With Flash injured and Fantasy slumping, things don't look good for the Terran race right now.
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What other Terrans do we have?
Baby ? Leta ?
...The terran race is so screwed
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Hopefully he'll stop slumping soon, I know he has it in him to dominate (or at least thats what I keep telling myself...)
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damnit this would of been a pretty good osl for bisu to win!
i feel like fantasy only thrives when what he plans goes his ways. when it goes to shits, he goes to shits. i think maybe he will do better if he was a sniper rather then an ace player for skt.
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On July 05 2011 01:07 DorF wrote:
...The terran race is so screwed
Hmph. You, sirrah, spew bogus with thy doomsaying.
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On July 05 2011 01:07 DorF wrote:
What other Terrans do we have?
Baby ? Leta ?
...The terran race is so screwed
Light? Reality? Bogus? Oz's new terran weapon? Motherfucking FireBatHero? Terrans are going to be fine.
Edit: There are 10 terrans in the top20 elo at the moment, 6 zergs and 4 toss. I don't think terrans should be complaining. They might lose their leader for a while but they're doing much better as a whole.
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hope fantasy comes back in shape for the GF and delivers there cause how things are going all T1 underperformers will get to kiss the trophy that was won by the individual effort of one guy who had the entire team on his back for 6 rounds.
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On July 05 2011 01:18 kuroshiroi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:07 DorF wrote:
What other Terrans do we have?
Baby ? Leta ?
...The terran race is so screwed
Light? Reality? Bogus? Oz's new terran weapon? Motherfucking FireBatHero? Terrans are going to be fine. Edit: There are 10 terrans in the top20 elo at the moment, 6 zergs and 4 toss. I don't think terrans should be complaining. They might lose their leader for a while but they're doing much better as a whole.
None of them capable of winning an individual league.
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On July 05 2011 01:24 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:18 kuroshiroi wrote:On July 05 2011 01:07 DorF wrote:
What other Terrans do we have?
Baby ? Leta ?
...The terran race is so screwed
Light? Reality? Bogus? Oz's new terran weapon? Motherfucking FireBatHero? Terrans are going to be fine. Edit: There are 10 terrans in the top20 elo at the moment, 6 zergs and 4 toss. I don't think terrans should be complaining. They might lose their leader for a while but they're doing much better as a whole. None of them capable of winning an individual league.
that just means the other races need extraordinary players to even be in the top 20.
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On July 05 2011 01:24 J1.au wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:18 kuroshiroi wrote:On July 05 2011 01:07 DorF wrote:
What other Terrans do we have?
Baby ? Leta ?
...The terran race is so screwed
Light? Reality? Bogus? Oz's new terran weapon? Motherfucking FireBatHero? Terrans are going to be fine. Edit: There are 10 terrans in the top20 elo at the moment, 6 zergs and 4 toss. I don't think terrans should be complaining. They might lose their leader for a while but they're doing much better as a whole. None of them capable of winning an individual league.
I think Light or Reality might manage it, they just need a bit of luck. They've shown themselves capable of defeating S-class opponents recently. If you want to complain, complain about the number of titles tosses have won in the last 3 years.
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Fantasy was probably sent to B-team due to the coaches seeing something in him during practice+poor performance. Glad that he's back, but the game yesterday...
Good thing SKT is still able to win without Fantasy playing his role as the ace terran. Hope you get back in shape fantasy
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On July 05 2011 01:19 disciple wrote:
hope fantasy comes back in shape for the GF and delivers there cause how things are going all T1 underperformers will get to kiss the trophy that was won by the individual effort of one guy who had the entire team on his back for 6 rounds.
SKT won't win if Fantasy loses his match. They need him. ;(
[I just don't see Best, S2, SoO all winning together... What if Bisu loses? Oh god I'm having a heart attack...]
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Welcome back Fanta! We missed your gg timing!
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On July 05 2011 01:56 Gescom wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:19 disciple wrote:
hope fantasy comes back in shape for the GF and delivers there cause how things are going all T1 underperformers will get to kiss the trophy that was won by the individual effort of one guy who had the entire team on his back for 6 rounds. SKT won't win if Fantasy loses his match. They need him. ;( [I just don't see Best, S2, SoO all winning together... What if Bisu loses? Oh god I'm having a heart attack...]
You have a good point there. For the longest time I am convinced that SKT got this PL in their bag. But now with news that Fantasy's performance caused him to be sent to team B, and after "successful" training. He came back with a D+ rating lost to a B class Zerg?
This is one interesting final.
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On July 05 2011 02:08 mmdmmd wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 01:56 Gescom wrote:On July 05 2011 01:19 disciple wrote:
hope fantasy comes back in shape for the GF and delivers there cause how things are going all T1 underperformers will get to kiss the trophy that was won by the individual effort of one guy who had the entire team on his back for 6 rounds. SKT won't win if Fantasy loses his match. They need him. ;( [I just don't see Best, S2, SoO all winning together... What if Bisu loses? Oh god I'm having a heart attack...] You have a good point there. For the longest time I am convinced that SKT got this PL in their bag. But now with news that Fantasy's performance caused him to be sent to team B, and after "successful" training. He came back with a D+ rating lost to a B class Zerg? This is one interesting final.
Except look at the winrates of the SKT main team. n.die_soo, by.Sun or s2. Best had a good winrate for a while and if Fantasy or Ssak get back in form *shudder*. This final is as good as won for SKT, which should be proven by all other teams feeling as good as helpless when playing them. You're just looking for drama and tension where there isn't any. SKT fans have the least right to whine when their team just had 2 rounds out of 6 undefeated.
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On July 05 2011 02:14 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 02:08 mmdmmd wrote:On July 05 2011 01:56 Gescom wrote:On July 05 2011 01:19 disciple wrote:
hope fantasy comes back in shape for the GF and delivers there cause how things are going all T1 underperformers will get to kiss the trophy that was won by the individual effort of one guy who had the entire team on his back for 6 rounds. SKT won't win if Fantasy loses his match. They need him. ;( [I just don't see Best, S2, SoO all winning together... What if Bisu loses? Oh god I'm having a heart attack...] You have a good point there. For the longest time I am convinced that SKT got this PL in their bag. But now with news that Fantasy's performance caused him to be sent to team B, and after "successful" training. He came back with a D+ rating lost to a B class Zerg? This is one interesting final. Except look at the winrates of the SKT main team. n.die_soo, by.Sun or s2. Best had a good winrate for a while and if Fantasy or Ssak get back in form *shudder*. This final is as good as won for SKT, which should be proven by all other teams feeling as good as helpless when playing them. You're just looking for drama and tension where there isn't any. SKT fans have the least right to whine when their team just had 2 rounds out of 6 undefeated.
SKT got 4-0'd by CJ the last time they played a real match.
+ Show Spoiler ++ 11-05-17 Neo Aztec Horang2 Bisu
+ 11-05-17 Alternative Movie n.Die_soO
+ 11-05-17 Icarus Leta Ssak
+ 11-05-17 Beltway sKyHigh Fantasy
Bisu has been the only consistent factor, SKT zergs have been playing great lately, but I could definitely see Best, S2, Soo, Fantasy all dropping games when it counts.
(just saying...)
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On July 05 2011 02:20 Gescom wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2011 02:14 mustaju wrote:On July 05 2011 02:08 mmdmmd wrote:On July 05 2011 01:56 Gescom wrote:On July 05 2011 01:19 disciple wrote:
hope fantasy comes back in shape for the GF and delivers there cause how things are going all T1 underperformers will get to kiss the trophy that was won by the individual effort of one guy who had the entire team on his back for 6 rounds. SKT won't win if Fantasy loses his match. They need him. ;( [I just don't see Best, S2, SoO all winning together... What if Bisu loses? Oh god I'm having a heart attack...] You have a good point there. For the longest time I am convinced that SKT got this PL in their bag. But now with news that Fantasy's performance caused him to be sent to team B, and after "successful" training. He came back with a D+ rating lost to a B class Zerg? This is one interesting final. Except look at the winrates of the SKT main team. n.die_soo, by.Sun or s2. Best had a good winrate for a while and if Fantasy or Ssak get back in form *shudder*. This final is as good as won for SKT, which should be proven by all other teams feeling as good as helpless when playing them. You're just looking for drama and tension where there isn't any. SKT fans have the least right to whine when their team just had 2 rounds out of 6 undefeated. SKT got 4-0'd by CJ the last time they played a real match. + Show Spoiler ++ 11-05-17 Neo Aztec Horang2 Bisu
+ 11-05-17 Alternative Movie n.Die_soO
+ 11-05-17 Icarus Leta Ssak
+ 11-05-17 Beltway sKyHigh Fantasy Bisu has been the only consistent factor, SKT zergs have been playing great lately, but I could definitely see Best, S2, Soo, Fantasy all dropping games when it counts. (just saying...)
That is assuming that CJ will go to the finals. But I think they will anyway. And iirc last time skt got all bad match up. The final will be interesting.
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