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Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
June 09 2011 03:42 GMT
#21
So they do another finals in China? but this time PL. I hope there's a massive turn out of people, that would be awesome.
Wonder how the Koreans feel about this.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16992 Posts
June 09 2011 03:43 GMT
#22
I'm going back to America the fourth.

Fuck everything.
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MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
June 09 2011 03:44 GMT
#23
Dang it. Won't be able to go watch arrrgggghhh.

I wonder if the Finals will have more people this time? Last time they hosted the OSL there it seemed like there weren't that many people because it was badly advertised and the like.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
June 09 2011 03:45 GMT
#24
its for the money obviously
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 09 2011 03:45 GMT
#25
On June 09 2011 12:42 swanized wrote:
I'd be pretty fucking mad if I was a korean fan that they keep hosting finals of my national league in a foreign country

Exactly what I logged in to post, except you posted it when I was logging in.

Especially for fans of the team seeded into first (cough T1), who never get to see a playoff match in person.

For all the investment the sponsor companies put into the teams, sometimes they make decisions that really endanger its future.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 09 2011 03:47 GMT
#26
sweet! hope it goes well
manner
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 03:48:42
June 09 2011 03:48 GMT
#27
On June 09 2011 12:06 darklordjac wrote:
Why do they keep holding finals in China?

Because China is the hottest country in the world, Koreans are flocking to China for tourism in droves, and more specifically because China has the most gamers per capita of any other nation.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 09 2011 03:49 GMT
#28
I would be very annoyed if I was a Korean fan.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 09 2011 03:49 GMT
#29
If they book another venue that only holds a tiny amount of people like the OSL finals it will be a disaster.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 03:49:58
June 09 2011 03:49 GMT
#30
On June 09 2011 12:48 Redunzl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 12:06 darklordjac wrote:
Why do they keep holding finals in China?

Because China is the hottest country in the world, Koreans are flocking to China for tourism in droves, and more specifically because China has the most gamers per capita of any other nation.


its actually the other way around
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19256 Posts
June 09 2011 03:51 GMT
#31
On June 09 2011 12:21 Elefanto wrote:
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On June 09 2011 12:19 supernovamaniac wrote:
Aha, I'll be in Korea during that time.

*bangs his head on the wall continuously*


Must suck big time, i'm sorry :/.
On the bright side, you won't be able to witness Cjs crushing defeat against SKT

This ^ Is awesome and true.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 09 2011 03:51 GMT
#32
On June 09 2011 12:45 white_horse wrote:
its for the money obviously

I don't know if you know more than me due to understanding Korean, but what kind of money could be worth hurting fan enthusiasm for the entire scene?

The entire scene provides a relatively low cost channel to promote all sorts of consumer goods and services to the Korean fanbase: phone service, gadgets, online games, airlines, clothing, beverages, and more - and many of the ads are linked to the team sponsors themselves. Making moves to damage the fans' enthusiasm could kill off their golden goose.

I can understand them trying to develop an audience elsewhere...but with the damn PL finals? The culmination of an entire year's worth of games? You've got professional leagues all over the world holding exhibition games abroad, but not their damn finals. I'd be insulted if I was a Korean fan.

I'm practically angry, sitting here and reading this news.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
X10A
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada9837 Posts
June 09 2011 03:52 GMT
#33
Ohh man. This is the day that I come back from vacation T.T
CJ/T8 Fighting//#1 STX and Bisu anti <3//YES X10A is based off the Freedom Gundam
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
June 09 2011 03:53 GMT
#34
I'm going to be in china on that day! Going to try my best to go
Jaedong forever.
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
June 09 2011 03:56 GMT
#35
On June 09 2011 12:51 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 12:45 white_horse wrote:
its for the money obviously

I don't know if you know more than me due to understanding Korean, but what kind of money could be worth hurting fan enthusiasm for the entire scene?

The entire scene provides a relatively low cost channel to promote all sorts of consumer goods and services to the Korean fanbase: phone service, gadgets, online games, airlines, clothing, beverages, and more - and many of the ads are linked to the team sponsors themselves. Making moves to damage the fans' enthusiasm could kill off their golden goose.

I can understand them trying to develop an audience elsewhere...but with the damn PL finals? The culmination of an entire year's worth of games? You've got professional leagues all over the world holding exhibition games abroad, but not their damn finals. I'd be insulted if I was a Korean fan.

I'm practically angry, sitting here and reading this news.


umm I'm not happy either
Translator
Misanthrope
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States924 Posts
June 09 2011 03:58 GMT
#36
They're basically shitting on the people that regularly show up to proleague finals by doing this. These locals and even some from far away support the league for the whole season, only to be refused a proper live finals event? Seriously, what the fuck?
Resolve to perform what you ought. Perform without fail what you resolve. - Benjamin Franklin
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50323 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-09 03:59:30
June 09 2011 03:58 GMT
#37
just as long as its not the 300 spectators only bullshit.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 09 2011 04:01 GMT
#38
On June 09 2011 12:51 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 12:45 white_horse wrote:
its for the money obviously

I don't know if you know more than me due to understanding Korean, but what kind of money could be worth hurting fan enthusiasm for the entire scene?

The entire scene provides a relatively low cost channel to promote all sorts of consumer goods and services to the Korean fanbase: phone service, gadgets, online games, airlines, clothing, beverages, and more - and many of the ads are linked to the team sponsors themselves. Making moves to damage the fans' enthusiasm could kill off their golden goose.

I can understand them trying to develop an audience elsewhere...but with the damn PL finals? The culmination of an entire year's worth of games? You've got professional leagues all over the world holding exhibition games abroad, but not their damn finals. I'd be insulted if I was a Korean fan.

I'm practically angry, sitting here and reading this news.


there are definitely a lot of Korean comments echoing your point of view.
manner
Comet702
Profile Joined April 2010
China236 Posts
June 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#39
On June 09 2011 11:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
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On June 09 2011 11:53 Troxior wrote:
Lets hope its larger than the last shanghai finals held there. While that was cool it was too small. This should be fun this change of venuE!


Seriously that 300 spectators only crap was stupid.

Is BW still big in china?


definitely yes! we have 5 famous Chinese BW websites, professoinal Chinese commatators and millions of BW fans here in China.
to tell you the truth I am from one of the 5 BW websites, wfbrood.com.
Comet from wfbrood.com
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 09 2011 04:02 GMT
#40
Will there be enough fans there to make it as epic as the PL final is supposed to be?
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
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