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doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 11:09:48
June 02 2011 11:08 GMT
#1
http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=44946

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Beltway --> Neo Beltway

I honestly don't know many specifics about the maps, so here are the changes sans analysis:

- Center mineral-only expansions changed to normal height instead of higher ground
- These expansions also have 6 mineral patches, instead of 8
- Can't block natural chokes with 1 barracks
- Possible to float an overlord behind the natural mineral lines without being killed
- Temple moved to allow easier muta harass on natural

Just from translating these changes, seems like these differences to made to nerf TvZ on the map. Thoughts?
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
June 02 2011 11:14 GMT
#2
Yeah they are gonna definitely gonna make it a lot harder for T's for fight zergs on this map.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
June 02 2011 11:16 GMT
#3
Lol, first I was like hallelujah.
But it's just the TvT fest map

Defin. better for zerg now.
getting rid of those center high grounds was a great idea to help P and Z too...

but its still going to be a TvT fest...just less so arghh
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 02 2011 11:16 GMT
#4
needs more desert tileset imo

ive always kinda liked beltway, i dont know what kind of effect this will have but im hoping these changes will give us more not TvTs
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
deafhobbit
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States828 Posts
June 02 2011 11:18 GMT
#5
Old Version

Other notable changes

- Area behind temple where you can walk units shrunk - likely makes it harder to defend nat choke
- Non build-able ring around the inside of the "beltway" - reduces power of Terran slaw pushes
- More non-walkable high ground near 12/3/6/9 chokes - possibly makes them easier to harass w/ air.
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
June 02 2011 11:34 GMT
#6
Also the DL zip file is actually still Neo Aztec. lol kespa
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stambe
Profile Joined May 2005
Bulgaria492 Posts
June 02 2011 12:10 GMT
#7
On June 02 2011 20:34 Taekwon wrote:
Also the DL zip file is actually still Neo Aztec. lol kespa


QFT, at first i was damn, am i drunk or smth? Quite a joke from KESPA.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 02 2011 13:27 GMT
#8
I'd rather they introduce a new map than trying to alter this one.

too bad I have no say in the matter
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 02 2011 13:30 GMT
#9
I hope we will see less TvTs on this map due to the changes.

But I don't think so.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
June 02 2011 13:42 GMT
#10
On June 02 2011 22:30 Kipsate wrote:
I hope we will see less TvTs on this map due to the changes.

But I don't think so.


You're right. The changes made is not going to affect the fact that terran is strong here. However, these changes allow for more possibilities of other races to snipe terrans.
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tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
June 02 2011 14:16 GMT
#11
Anyone know where we can download Neo Beltway?
SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
June 02 2011 14:45 GMT
#12
With that high ground gone it certainly is gonna be a lot harder for T, but i'm interested to see how non-terran matchups will play on this map now.
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
June 02 2011 15:17 GMT
#13
I think it's still better for T. Near the end of Proleague a few P/Z were being sent out though maybe cause they had worked it out better, so the TvT fest might end somewhat regardless of these changes.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 15:23:26
June 02 2011 15:23 GMT
#14
On June 02 2011 23:16 tryummm wrote:
Anyone know where we can download Neo Beltway?

It'll probably be in TLPD soon. I'm glad that this map was changed. Any map that produces predominantly mirror matchups isn't a favorite of mine.
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SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
June 02 2011 18:26 GMT
#15
btw it also appears that they changed the water areas, probably as a result of the Tiny vs Tempest draw game, I don't know if its possible to float buildings over them anymore.
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 18:34:00
June 02 2011 18:33 GMT
#16
On June 03 2011 00:23 flamewheel wrote:
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On June 02 2011 23:16 tryummm wrote:
Anyone know where we can download Neo Beltway?

It'll probably be in TLPD soon. I'm glad that this map was changed. Any map that produces predominantly mirror matchups isn't a favorite of mine.


central plain nuff said
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
June 02 2011 19:41 GMT
#17
eew thought it'll be new map
POGGERS
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 02 2011 19:46 GMT
#18
It's a shame that all maps with buildable middles seem to become terran favored, and get removed or altered. It makes Nal_ra's flower style hard to repeat.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
yeti
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States258 Posts
June 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#19
On June 03 2011 00:23 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 23:16 tryummm wrote:
Anyone know where we can download Neo Beltway?

It'll probably be in TLPD soon. I'm glad that this map was changed. Any map that produces predominantly mirror matchups isn't a favorite of mine.



To be fair the wraith oriented TvT that this map promoted was some of the best mirror play I have seen in a while.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 02 2011 20:52 GMT
#20
I'm really not a fan of these changes :3 then again old Beltway was just mass wraith TvT so not a big loss.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
June 02 2011 22:37 GMT
#21
Even if it was imbalanced, I really liked the unique look and feel of this map as it was before. TvTs aren't so bad anyway, and there were alot of Protoss coming out on this map too. At least a couple Zergs. Of all the changes they had to make I just don't see why eliminating those hill expansions was necessary, when being mineral-only and very towards the center they were only so useful anyway even to a Terran. Now the center is just boring and flat.
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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
June 02 2011 22:58 GMT
#22
Beltway was battle royal for terrans. Guess they had to nerf T on that map.
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MorningMusume11
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3490 Posts
June 02 2011 23:05 GMT
#23
Think Tempest would've been happy if they removed some of them doo-dads
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