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anatem
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania1369 Posts
May 23 2011 08:36 GMT
#21
too far off, need matches now. JvF finals seeing the form the two beasts are in, though i wouldn't mind seeing zero versus Flash for the win.
'Tis with our Judgements as our Watches, none / Go just alike, yet each believes his own.
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
May 23 2011 08:41 GMT
#22
Zero v Hydra finals pleaseeeee
Dear Sixsmith...
Slunk
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany768 Posts
May 23 2011 08:48 GMT
#23
On May 23 2011 17:24 Eywa- wrote:
JvF finals and Jaedong is going to win.

That would be so awesome. I want to finaly see Jaedong kick Flash's butt in a best of 5.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
May 23 2011 08:48 GMT
#24
Sigh gonna be so nerve wracking for jaedong vs zero. I just don't have the confidence in his zvz anymore as lately he's been losing it alot .

Here's to an epic Jaedong vs Flash finals
When I think of something else, something will go here
Winechu
Profile Joined May 2011
Singapore1186 Posts
May 23 2011 08:50 GMT
#25
I think Hydra has the ability to take games off Flash from what I've seen of him in the series against Mind. He's a player I kinda like due to his aggressive style but I can't root for him because he's up against Flash, one of my favourite players to watch and not to mention it'd mean another ZvZ finals if he does win. I'm just hoping for a great series, hopefully Hydra will play his part and deliver some good games along with Flash.

I honestly don't know what to expect of Jaedong vs. ZerO, at first glance, it seems to be Jaedong ezpz but ZerO's just the type to play to the level of his opponent, and I'm unsure which ZerO will turn up. His series against Calm impressed me too. Again, hoping for a good series with some badass muta micro.

ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
May 23 2011 09:06 GMT
#26
On May 23 2011 17:24 Eywa- wrote:
JvF finals and Jaedong is going to win.

Please! :D
Jaedong :3
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
May 23 2011 09:11 GMT
#27
Hope Flash wins so we can avoid a ZvZ finals snoozefest.
God Bless
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
May 23 2011 09:43 GMT
#28
Semis would be even better if the matchup was Flash vs Zero and Jaedong vs Hydra. As it is right now neither Zero nor Hydra will take more than one game.
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 10:02:26
May 23 2011 09:54 GMT
#29
Boggles my mind that there are people out there who don't want to see Flash vs. Jaedong in the final.

Who is the best player in the world? Flash
Who is the player with the best chance of beating Flash in a Bo5? Jaedong
Who is the best ZvT player of all time? Jaedong
Who is the best TvZ player of all time? Flash
Who is the player who can tie NaDa's # of finals if he reaches this MSL final? Jaedong
Who are the two players one MSL gold away from the golden badge? Flash and Jaedong
Who are the two players one gold away from tying NaDa's # of individual titles? Flash and Jaedong

Why would anyone want to see lesser players luckily get past the better players? If two guys are #1 and #2 in the world then I want to see them play, nevermind if they've played 10 times before or 10,000. Every time there's an FvJ final there's always at least one map which is an instant classic, with the exception of Hana Daetoo, and usually the others are won by sheer brilliance by one player or the other.

There's a really unhealthy mindset out there where people pull for every underdog to win, call any game their player doesn't win boring, call every game that isn't a 40 minute macro war boring and desire every player to get a title. If one guy is the #1 player in the world by far I'd much rather see him win every single title from now till the end of BW.

There's a good chance Flash and Jaedong could go down as the two greatest players of all time so every final they play means something and you can go back and get something extra out of it over time. If some guy makes one final, loses to F/J 1-3 and then never returns it really mean a whole lot. Who goes back and watches that Flash vs. Movie OSL final and thinks it has replay value?

People are free to enjoy the game however they please but it seems fairly unsophisticated and at least a little ignorant to flat out spurn excellence in favour of flukes, upsets or the novelty factor of new faces. Now if Hydra/Zero outplay Flash/Jaedong in their Bo5 then great, they deserve to be in the final without a doubt. But imo the, perhaps subtle, difference is that I'm pulling for great BW to be played rather than one player or another to win at all costs.

Put most simply: If you think FvJ finals are boring I'm really not sure what you're actually getting from pro BW. This isn't a soap opera.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
May 23 2011 10:01 GMT
#30
On May 23 2011 18:54 Thorin wrote:
Boggles my mind that there are people out there who don't want to see Flash vs. Jaedong in the final.

Who is the best player in the world? Flash
Who is the player with the best chance of beating Flash in a Bo5? Jaedong
Who is the player who can tie NaDa's # of finals if he reaches this MSL final? Jaedong
Who are the two players one MSL gold away from the golden badge? Flash and Jaedong
Who are the two players on gold away from tying NaDa's # of individual titles? Flash and Jaedong

Why would anyone want to see lesser players luckily get past the better players? If two guys are #1 and #2 in the world then I want to see them play, nevermind if they've played 10 times before or 10,000. Every time there's an FvJ final there's always at least one map which is an instant classic, with the exception of Hana Daetoo, and usually the others are won by sheer brilliance by one player or the other.

There's a really unhealthy mindset out there where people pull for every underdog to win, call any game their player doesn't win boring, call every game that isn't a 40 minute macro war boring and desire every player to get a title. If one guy is the #1 player in the world by far I'd much rather see him win every single title from now till the end of BW.

There's a good chance Flash and Jaedong could go down as the two greatest players of all time so every final they play means something and you can go back and get something extra out of it over time. If some guy makes one final, loses to F/J 1-3 and then never returns it really mean a whole lot. Who goes back and watches that Flash vs. Movie OSL final and thinks it has replay value?

People are free to enjoy the game however they please but it seems fairly unsophisticated and at least a little ignorant to flat out spurn excellence in favour of flukes, upsets or the novelty factor of new faces.


100% agree. Best two players of all time trying to tie most accomplished player of all time in titles. Couldn't be any better.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 10:09:01
May 23 2011 10:07 GMT
#31
Hoping for some quick 3-0 Ro4 rolfstomps and an epic JvF final =D

edit: Actually Flash vs Hydra should be pretty good.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
May 23 2011 10:11 GMT
#32
ZerO vs Hydra final let's go
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 23 2011 10:45 GMT
#33
On May 23 2011 18:06 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2011 17:24 Eywa- wrote:
JvF finals and Jaedong is going to win.

Please! :D

Zero vs Flash where Zero wins sounds more interesting to me actually.
In the woods, there lurks..
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
May 23 2011 10:52 GMT
#34
On May 23 2011 18:54 Thorin wrote:
Boggles my mind that there are people out there who don't want to see Flash vs. Jaedong in the final.

Who is the best player in the world? Flash
Who is the player with the best chance of beating Flash in a Bo5? Jaedong
Who is the best ZvT player of all time? Jaedong
Who is the best TvZ player of all time? Flash
Who is the player who can tie NaDa's # of finals if he reaches this MSL final? Jaedong
Who are the two players one MSL gold away from the golden badge? Flash and Jaedong
Who are the two players one gold away from tying NaDa's # of individual titles? Flash and Jaedong

Why would anyone want to see lesser players luckily get past the better players? If two guys are #1 and #2 in the world then I want to see them play, nevermind if they've played 10 times before or 10,000. Every time there's an FvJ final there's always at least one map which is an instant classic, with the exception of Hana Daetoo, and usually the others are won by sheer brilliance by one player or the other.

There's a really unhealthy mindset out there where people pull for every underdog to win, call any game their player doesn't win boring, call every game that isn't a 40 minute macro war boring and desire every player to get a title. If one guy is the #1 player in the world by far I'd much rather see him win every single title from now till the end of BW.

There's a good chance Flash and Jaedong could go down as the two greatest players of all time so every final they play means something and you can go back and get something extra out of it over time. If some guy makes one final, loses to F/J 1-3 and then never returns it really mean a whole lot. Who goes back and watches that Flash vs. Movie OSL final and thinks it has replay value?

People are free to enjoy the game however they please but it seems fairly unsophisticated and at least a little ignorant to flat out spurn excellence in favour of flukes, upsets or the novelty factor of new faces. Now if Hydra/Zero outplay Flash/Jaedong in their Bo5 then great, they deserve to be in the final without a doubt. But imo the, perhaps subtle, difference is that I'm pulling for great BW to be played rather than one player or another to win at all costs.

Put most simply: If you think FvJ finals are boring I'm really not sure what you're actually getting from pro BW. This isn't a soap opera.

Yay, my man, you can have my beer!
Ubersturmfuhrer
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-23 11:05:11
May 23 2011 11:03 GMT
#35
meh.. holiday in crete just in the time of semis and finals -.-

I was hoping to see my first live JvF finals. FML

Well yall have fun watching these !

edit: reading Thorins post makes this even worse
You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
May 23 2011 14:01 GMT
#36
Who goes back and watches that Flash vs. Movie OSL final and thinks it has replay value?

I am.
The game where Movie did gas steal into proxy robo was great: the beautiful art of turtling from Flash.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51607 Posts
May 23 2011 14:05 GMT
#37
rather see flash vs zero than flash vs jaedong tbh, if we get to see 5x polaris rhapsody games.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
May 23 2011 14:07 GMT
#38
Well it ain't christmas when the finals are there luckily.

Also Hydra should lose solely based upon ZvZZZZZZZZZZZZ finals.
WriterXiao8~~
gamapg
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines189 Posts
May 23 2011 14:11 GMT
#39
Flash... if you screw up...
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10470 Posts
May 23 2011 14:22 GMT
#40
JD<ZerO 2-3
Hydra<FlaSh 1-3

FlaSh>ZerO 3-1

FlaSh HWAITING!!!
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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