EPTOn April 29 2011 01:47 mprs wrote:
Quality over quantity.
Quality over quantity.
not in this case
Jaedong with the most 'official' wins in BW - Page 6
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Maks
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krndandaman
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Chimpalimp
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Mumei
United States257 Posts
On April 29 2011 03:38 Chimpalimp wrote: Effort is the only low game count person to have like 60% win rate, pretty sick. Grats to jaedong for kicking ass for so long. Flash, Bisu, and Jaedong seem to have pretty high game counts and great win %. Hopefully he'll get a chance to amend that to being a high game count person with 60%+! | ||
Milkis
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tube
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cuz he's never won a starleague.. rofl or even gotten to a finals | ||
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Deletrious
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StarStruck
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The guy can maintain a 70% winrate. What the hell are you talking about? | ||
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Sillylaughs
Canada198 Posts
Playing more games also tends to 'stabilize' your W/L ratio (afaik JD's W/L ratio was around 69.4?% 09-10 season). Second, many, if not majority of the players listed are retired. So naturally their W/L ratio would tend to fall as they near the end of their careers. For instance, Nada was able to maintain a near 60% W/L ratio 8 years after his Panasonic days, which is in itself jawdropping (although Nada's always the exception to the rule...). Also keep in mind that older players played less number of games in their prime compared to some of the younger players. Players like Sea or Stork who started playing in 2004 - their 60% over the span of 7 years should be given more credit for consistency even if similar number of games were played over players whose debut was only 2 or 3 years ago. That being said, I don't think claims like quality > quantity does justice to these players. Can Flash/JD maintain their 70% ratios near the end of their careers? more likely than not. But let's give credit to those old timers too, yeah?  | ||
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Zzoram
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Telcontar
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StarStruck
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On April 29 2011 04:26 Sillylaughs wrote: I hope people don't judge how good of a player is/was solely based on the OP. Playing more games also tends to 'stabilize' your W/L ratio (afaik JD's W/L ratio was around 69.4?% 09-10 season). Second, many, if not majority of the players listed are retired. So naturally their W/L ratio would tend to fall as they near the end of their careers. For instance, Nada was able to maintain a near 60% W/L ratio 8 years after his Panasonic days, which is in itself jawdropping (although Nada's always the exception to the rule...). Also keep in mind that older players played less number of games in their prime compared to some of the younger players. Players like Sea or Stork who started playing in 2004 - their 60% over the span of 7 years should be given more credit for consistency even if similar number of games were played over players whose debut was only 2 or 3 years ago. That being said, I don't think claims like quality > quantity does justice to these players. Can Flash/JD maintain their 70% ratios near the end of their careers? more likely than not. But let's give credit to those old timers too, yeah? This man deserves a cookie. Couldn't have said it any better. With that said, this is momentous occassion for Jaedong. Let's not turn this into a Flash versus Jaedong thread like every other one. | ||
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Mortality
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Mumei
United States257 Posts
On April 29 2011 04:26 Sillylaughs wrote: So naturally their W/L ratio would tend to fall as they near the end of their careers. For instance, Nada was able to maintain a near 60% W/L ratio 8 years after his Panasonic days, which is in itself jawdropping (although Nada's always the exception to the rule...). I think this goes back to what you mentioned about more games causes stabilization; it causes a sort of inertia in late in a player's career. You mentioned Nada had 65.20% (311 - 166) five years into his career; the main reason he stayed above 60% wasn't because he did well those last three years (he went 128 - 124), but because there were so many games played before that. Midas is sort of like that, as well, with 62.25% (188 - 114) four years into his career. He's gone 48 - 53 since then (June 2008 - March 2011), but he's still maintained fairly well. I think that's what's more impressive about Flash and Jaedong (graphs): Nada Jaedong Flash Nada's first five years compared with Flash and Jaedong's careers. Flash and Jaedong are maintaining or increasing (Flash) their lifetime winning percentages, because they are still winning as much as they ever were. Their longevity and stability is insane, really. | ||
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FakePlasticLove
United States357 Posts
On April 29 2011 03:58 tube wrote: cuz he's never won a starleague.. rofl or even gotten to a finals Or a semifinal I think he made Ro8 for the first time last year once? | ||
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astroorion
United States1022 Posts
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On April 29 2011 04:36 Telcontar wrote: Why are Flash fans always trying to pick a fight? Are you guys that incapable of being happy for other progamers? This is true, and aggravated me quite a bit while reading through this thread. Well done JD. | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
On April 29 2011 06:43 checo wrote: Boxers record would have been so much better if he hadn't play on ACE = ( almost all losses there for him) Boxer needs to come back to BW I miss him  | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
Tyrant fighting. | ||
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