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On April 29 2011 12:36 mikyaJ wrote: lol from Xellos and up, all the players have a huge slew of titles... and then there's Sea T.T
So sad... and now he's out of this year's MSL too -_-
please do well in the OSL, Sea. Please. For once T_T
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Bisutopia19156 Posts
Flash and JD will wash out while Bisu steadily gains Bonjwa status and set all the records in the name of the Toss Gods.
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On April 29 2011 13:53 BisuDagger wrote: Flash and JD will wash out while Bisu steadily gains Bonjwa status and set all the records in the name of the Toss Gods.
he'll never win an individual league until he switches away from SKT
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United States10328 Posts
On April 29 2011 12:36 mikyaJ wrote: lol from Xellos and up, all the players have a huge slew of titles... and then there's Sea T.T
Yellow? Titles? 
Interesting how the 3 Protoss Kings + Zeus + 3 Protoss Neo-Kings + 6 Dragons are the only ones with > 100 wins haha...
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On April 29 2011 17:15 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 12:36 mikyaJ wrote: lol from Xellos and up, all the players have a huge slew of titles... and then there's Sea T.T Yellow? Titles?  Interesting how the 3 Protoss Kings + Zeus + 3 Protoss Neo-Kings + 6 Dragons are the only ones with > 100 wins haha... yes! many many silvers
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On April 29 2011 01:56 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 01:08 Drey wrote:On April 29 2011 01:02 danl9rm wrote:On April 28 2011 14:51 buhhy wrote:Lol Flash still has a higher win ratio :D Not surprised  Of course, he plays terran. Anyway, GOOOOOO JAEDONG!!!!!!! Looking over these records, it's ridiculous how far past everyone else jd/flash are. Having a 10% higher win rate over these other pros isn't just being 10% better, it's like 10x. Just amazing. Yeah your right he plays terran, thats why every terran has 70% + win ratio, oh wait no one has that. But when Jaedong has close to that its skill hahah  your funny Of course Flash is the most skilled. But it also helps than Terran has safest macro openings. Doesn't need an expert to see that... T is definitely the most consistent at the highest levels. While P definitely the least consistent, but Z can have a tough time in ZvT and Zergs also have to play ZvZ which can be volatile compared to TvT. JD in ZvZ a year or two ago was the most dominant mirror matchup player in the history of the game.. based on that you could say that the "natural" skill, that which is unrelated to exploiting matchup asymmetries, is the best in him(80% zvz doesnt seem very volatile to me :p).
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Wow nice, congrats Jaedong..
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On April 29 2011 17:45 xarthaz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 01:56 infinity2k9 wrote:On April 29 2011 01:08 Drey wrote:On April 29 2011 01:02 danl9rm wrote:On April 28 2011 14:51 buhhy wrote:Lol Flash still has a higher win ratio :D Not surprised  Of course, he plays terran. Anyway, GOOOOOO JAEDONG!!!!!!! Looking over these records, it's ridiculous how far past everyone else jd/flash are. Having a 10% higher win rate over these other pros isn't just being 10% better, it's like 10x. Just amazing. Yeah your right he plays terran, thats why every terran has 70% + win ratio, oh wait no one has that. But when Jaedong has close to that its skill hahah  your funny Of course Flash is the most skilled. But it also helps than Terran has safest macro openings. Doesn't need an expert to see that... T is definitely the most consistent at the highest levels. While P definitely the least consistent, but Z can have a tough time in ZvT and Zergs also have to play ZvZ which can be volatile compared to TvT. JD in ZvZ a year or two ago was the most dominant mirror matchup player in the history of the game.. based on that you could say that the "natural" skill, that which is unrelated to exploiting matchup asymmetries, is the best in him(80% zvz doesnt seem very volatile to me :p).
I'm aware of this which is why i'm careful with what i said.. A-class Z's have sort of caught up to him since the 80% days. I'd still call it volatile when you go rock paper scissors with your build order and get an immediate disadvantage/advantage, even if JD used to be able to overcome the disadvantages with pure micro. You can see Z's like ZerO who's excellent in everything but ZvZ.
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but you can't deny that flash is crushing everyone and easily the best in the world atm, and what i tried to say was, that when he has played the same number of games Jaedong has, he will have a higher win ratio.
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On April 28 2011 14:40 404.Delirium wrote: 8 out of the top 15 are Terran o.o
Jaedong is just... on a different level.
Except a good amount are inactive, considering Nada and Boxer play SC2.
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Jaedong 68% Flash 71%
Holy...
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Crossposting from Oz vs Fox LR
For posterity: The 200th time a mereling officially succumbs to the TYRANT! The 1st time it has happened in all of history!
I am a witness!
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Spoiler that shit^ some people are unable to watch the games right now.
+ Show Spoiler + MOST EPIC ZVT IN A LONG WHILE, JAEDONG FOR 200TH WIN.
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those people should stay out of this thread then
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On April 30 2011 16:31 SoMuchBetter wrote: those people should stay out of this thread then This thread covers the official wins in general, so you can't expect anything which doesn't really belong in this thread.
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NOTHING, not even WL record, can separate these two. Too sweet!
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On April 29 2011 21:03 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2011 17:45 xarthaz wrote:On April 29 2011 01:56 infinity2k9 wrote:On April 29 2011 01:08 Drey wrote:On April 29 2011 01:02 danl9rm wrote:On April 28 2011 14:51 buhhy wrote:Lol Flash still has a higher win ratio :D Not surprised  Of course, he plays terran. Anyway, GOOOOOO JAEDONG!!!!!!! Looking over these records, it's ridiculous how far past everyone else jd/flash are. Having a 10% higher win rate over these other pros isn't just being 10% better, it's like 10x. Just amazing. Yeah your right he plays terran, thats why every terran has 70% + win ratio, oh wait no one has that. But when Jaedong has close to that its skill hahah  your funny Of course Flash is the most skilled. But it also helps than Terran has safest macro openings. Doesn't need an expert to see that... T is definitely the most consistent at the highest levels. While P definitely the least consistent, but Z can have a tough time in ZvT and Zergs also have to play ZvZ which can be volatile compared to TvT. JD in ZvZ a year or two ago was the most dominant mirror matchup player in the history of the game.. based on that you could say that the "natural" skill, that which is unrelated to exploiting matchup asymmetries, is the best in him(80% zvz doesnt seem very volatile to me :p). I'm aware of this which is why i'm careful with what i said.. A-class Z's have sort of caught up to him since the 80% days. I'd still call it volatile when you go rock paper scissors with your build order and get an immediate disadvantage/advantage, even if JD used to be able to overcome the disadvantages with pure micro. You can see Z's like ZerO who's excellent in everything but ZvZ. When i look at Jaedong in the 80% days, and him at the 75% days, i see almost no difference. It's the other players that have caught up. Too many times, i've seen players losing by not having enough zerglings, not microing against scourge, bad scourge cloning, etc.
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JD after 200W
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Jaedong, you are the best, i'm happy to be able to see any of your games. BW forever.
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