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[Int] SKT vs KT 10-11 WL Finals Winners

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Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 09 2011 18:34 GMT
#1
SK TELECOM T1, BRINGING HOME THEIR FIRST WL TROPHY, THE TROPHY THAT WAS MISSING FROM THEIR HUGE TROPHY CABINET.

SK Telecom T1: “We’re even happier that we defeated our rival KT”

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SK Telecom has successfully won their first Winners’ League championship.

On the 9th, the Shinhan Winners’ League 10-11 season finals were held at Seoul Songdong-gu Hanyang University’s open-air theater, and through SK Telecom’s MVP s2 along with “The Revolutionist” Bisu’s support for their team, SK Telecom successfully defeated KT 4:1 and held the championship cup in their hands.

After the day’s match ended, an interview was held for the winners s2 and Bisu, who told us their thoughts on winning the championship, along with team ace “Terrorist” Fantasy and captain Hyuk (of SK Telecom).

Next is SK Telecom’s answers to their questions.

- Your thoughts on winning your first Winners’ League title?
▲ (Z)s2: Because we lost to KT so much, we weren’t sure if we were going to win the championship, but being unsure of whether we could win or not made us practice and work even harder, so the results of our efforts turned out to be good in the end. I’m happy, and because we are the winning team, I want to keep on enjoying these good feelings from today.
▲ (P)Bisu: It’s been a long time since the last time I stood at the stage of the finals, and when we won, I thought, “So this is what it feels like to win a championship,” and felt really good. Whether when it’s during the semi-playoffs or playoffs, players aren’t able to rest and go through a lot of hardships, but since we were able to completely erase the fears of, “What do we do if we go all the way to the finals and lose”, I’m happy. Our team had always been weak in Winners’ League, but since we were able to take the throne this time, I’m really happy.
▲ (Z)Hyuk: It’s really great that our team won the championship. I personally didn’t participate today myself, but during practice, I thought that our team could definitely take down KT, and since the results came out the way I thought they would, I’m really happy about it. I’m also happy especially since (Z)s2 did so well. Because we won the Winners’ League championship, we will ride our momentum, and even in the regular season we will hold our position as 1st place and be able to win the Proleague championship at Gwangahnri. [T/N: The place where the Proleague finals are held]
▲ (T)Fantasy: I’m even happier that we won against our rival KT. Our teammates practiced really hard, and to have the fruits of our labor come out makes me happy and really proud of them. I wasn’t able to participate today, but I’m really thankful to my teammates, and it would be great if we could keep this momentum up and do well in Round 5.

- (To (Z)s2) You were chosen as the Winners’ League finals MVP.
▲ (Z)s2: I was panicked when I had to play a rematch in the first set, but overall, I think that I got really lucky today, which made me able to become chosen as the MVP.

- (To (Z)s2) After you won the 1st set, what kind of thoughts did you have, and how did you prepare for your next game?
▲ (Z)s2: I practiced for the 1st set the most. Even though I didn’t really practice for the other sets, I had confidence in the remaining maps and played confidently since I had prepared builds in the case a Zerg or Protoss came out to face me.

- (To (Z)s2) A ‘T1 Zerg’ unexpectedly making 3 kills has become a hot topic.
▲ (Z)s2: Truthfully, ‘T1 Zergs’ don’t really have a good image, but it seems that the Zerg line’s atmosphere has been revived recently. Everyone on the Zerg line has been working really hard, and it will be hard to take advantage of today’s win to completely change our image, but I will work even harder to change our image into a good one from now on.

- (To (Z)s2) There was a chance for you to all-kill, but it must have been regrettable for you to lose to (T)Flash.
▲ (Z)s2: Contrary what I had expected, after I made 3 kills, I want to think that I wasn’t satisfied with myself. I tried to play comfortably in the 4th set and used an aggressive offensive build, but Flash scouted out and dealt with my strategy well, so I failed to make an all-kill.

- (To (P)Bisu) During the pre-finals media day conference, you mentioned that you had a “custom build for (T)Flash”; was the build you showed today that one?
▲ (P)Bisu: I usually don’t really talk about builds in interviews. But since it was a build I had already used before, I was able to talk about it in advance, and the strategy I used today was the one I talked about and was the one put together to defeat (T)Flash. When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had go for a rax expand, but if he had gone for a factory expand instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win.

- (To (P)Bisu) After you seized the chance to victory, your happiness was shown on your face and appeared on screen.

▲ (P)Bisu: I had a happy expression on my face, but did it come out by accident (laughs)? I lost to (T)Flash a lot, so I had a lot of hardships. But since I was winning against a player like that, I was too happy, that’s why that kind of expression came out on my face. [T/N: Whoever makes that Bisu bouncing up and down in his seat in glee gif will be regarded as a hero. Also, I send my greetings to Fomos when they copy paste this translation on to their site.]

- (To (P)Bisu) You seem to have restored your confidence in beating (T)Flash, but are you confident that you will survive in the MSL?

▲ (P)Bisu: I still don’t think that I have that much confidence in winning against him yet. After seeing that my hands were shaking during my game, I still think that (T)Flash is a very strong player, and I personally feel that I’m lacking in many areas. But since I did win today, it seems that my thoughts have changed a bit, and since there is a lot of time to practice for the MSL and for the new map I’ll be playing on, if I just practice and prepare well, then I think I’ll be okay. I don’t know what strategy I’ll prepare, but I will do my best and practice hard.

Source: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=116213&db=interview

Coach Park's interview added thanks to Milkis!

DES Interview with Coach:

Manager Park Young Oon: "We won according to scenario"

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Q: Why did you lead with (Z)s2?
A: How the games went tonight were actually one of the scenarios we considered. To be honest we concentrated more on (P)Stats than (Z)Action. It's good management to send out newer players at the front so they got to play, and because they won, we were able to have the game flow the way we wanted it. (Z)s2 got a 3 kill and was able to guide the series without a hitch.

Q: (Z)s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, (Z)s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like (Z)Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.

Q: You have gained the triple crown. What is the next goal?
A: We definitely do not want to let KT take the finals at GwangAhnRi. That is our goal. After we got second place, we were really disappointed, and so this time we will pay them back with a victory. As for long term goals, I will tell them after we win at KwangAhnRi.

Q: Workshop starts tomorrow. What kind of preparations are you going to do?
A: It is true that our schedule is very tight. The players are tired from practicing quite a bit, but I think that it's better to give them a break with the team as a whole. If we give them a lot of personal time, the players might get a little loose. While we will give them personal vacation time, we will have them rest within the team as much as possible.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=42501 [T/N: Sup Fomos, can't steal this one ^^;;;]

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH CONGRATULATIONS TO SKT ON WINNING THEIR FIRST WL CHAMPIONSHIP!!! 8DDD

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And now I will grace everyone with a beautiful picspam that everyone should look at to dazzle your eyes.

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The site of the finals - Seoul Hanyang University! There was a packed crowd there, what an atmosphere!

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KT's new freaky mascots were introduced as well. Yes, that Flash mascot was even armed with a ruler and all. Devil!Bunkie does not approve.

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Stork and Leta were also there for a special 2 vs. 2 with fan event before the finals started!

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GoRush: "Hey Leta, doncha wanna see more of this?" *Starts unbuttoning vest*
Leta: "GTFO"

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Stork's team won in the event - That fan gets an extra $1,000 added to his bank account!

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Even Effort was there to watch the finals!
Effort: "What are you looking at? Damn paparazzi these days."

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GoRush: "Heh heh, SKT gonna own face today."
TheMarine: "STFU GoRush, you aren't even commentating the finals game today." *Sips drink*

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KT arrives on the scene! Complete with MafiaZerg dirty stare!

Hoejja: "Huh? This is the last snack bag left?"

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Yellow: "Well Hoejja, sometimes sacrifices hafta be made, now hand over them snacks of yours."
Hoejja: "......" *Watches as everyone takes his snacks*

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But then, Hoejja finds a solution to his problem!

Hoejja: "Mmm, food always tastes better when you take it from someone else."

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Suddenly, iloveoov aged 20 years!
iloveoov: "Why yes, I did learn how to travel through time. You gotta do everything in order to prepare for the finals."

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Soo: "Heh, I bet you're not even gonna be sent out today!"
Fantasy: "We'll see about that, I bet Bisu's gonna get owned hard by Flash anyway."

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Flash: "I'm ready to greet all of my fans today!"
Barracks: "Holy crap Flash, don't trip on that wire right there!!" OAO
Flash: "Lol wha-"

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Flash gives a high-five to... himself??

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Bisu: "Uhuhuh, I feel strangely confident today for some reason~"

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Former vocalist Park Won Gyu of the Korean rock band Boohwal was there to watch the finals! He automatically gets approval in my book.

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Yeeeeeah pyrotechnics!!!

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Fantasy and Hyuk: "Oooh, pretty colors~"
Bisu: "Can we start already" *Pouts*

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Yellow and Reach: *Smirk* "Heh, SKT gonna be taught a lesson today."

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Bisu: "If the game doesn't start at this rate, then I'm going to fall asleep..."

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Kespa ref: "We are sorry for the computer failure today. But since we are Kespa, we will continue to fail anyway in the future. Thank you for all of your support."

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It's G.NA!

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And her bitches!

"Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay~"

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s2 in his booth in the background: "Damn, if only I was out there instead of in here..."

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Mantoss, after watching Stats lose.

Reach: "I clearly haven't manned him up enough yet..."

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Coach Park: "How is a T1 Zerg winning this, I don't even-"

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The sequence of Flash drinking Pocari Sweat, illustrated above.

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Flash, after winning against s2: "If only Violet hyung was here..."

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Beesuit is unleashed to take down the Final Boss!
Bisu: "Uhuhuhuh, I feel strangely smug today~"

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Bisu, during his game against Flash. He cannot hide his happiness during the game! Today is a glorious day for Kim Taek Shin!

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Bisu: "Uhuhuhuhuhuhuhuh, I won, I won, I won!!!!!"

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Kim Taek Shin, throwing up his fist like a champ. Oh wait, he IS a champ.

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SKT, on Bisu winning against Flash: "YEEEEEEEEEEEEEAHHH SONNNNNNNN-"

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Frotoss cannot hide his glee! Look at that look of utter delight on his face!

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Bisu: "Uhhh, what do I do after getting out of my booth now?"

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Coach Lee and Mantoss taking the 2nd place prize of $10,000. Mantoss still looking manly with flowers.

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Coach Park and Captain Hyuk holding up the $20,000 prize! Profit!

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s2 gets awarded as MVP!
s2: "Wow, I feel useful for once!"

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Win the WL championship, get drenched by Pocari Sweat.

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Coach Park: "Finally, the WL championship trophy! The missing trophy in our collection!"

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Bisu: "Uhuhuh, I beat Flash for once! Uhuhuhuhuh↗"

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s2: "Feeling useful to your team really feels great!"

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Yeeeah Bisu yeeeeeah, pimping out the trophy with former rocker Park Won Gyu!

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Wassup guys. s2 and Bisu representin' SKT. Another shiny trophy added to SKT's shiny trophy collection.

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SK Telecom T1, 2011 Winners' League champions! Yeeeah!!

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Bisu: "This trophy? No, you can't have it. It's mine."
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Noel Vermillion
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada218 Posts
April 09 2011 18:41 GMT
#2
Thanks for the interview, a little upset that KT Lost but it's not Flash fault, I wish Action, Stats and Crazy Hydra picked up some wins to help out Flash, but what can you do.

Well played by SKT, next time KT will win!
FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu, Free, TossGirl, Action, Stats Always BW FTW!
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
April 09 2011 18:42 GMT
#3
Well played, SKT. Did not expect KT to fall apart like that during the games though.

Thanks for translating and I hope fomos at least credits this thread when they steal it ^_^;
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 18:48:35
April 09 2011 18:45 GMT
#4
Flash had to make double Barracks, but if he had made double Factories instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage


I assume that means he had to rax-CC and not fac-CC.


Kespa ref: "We are sorry for the computer failure today. But since we are Kespa, we will continue to fail anyway in the future. Thank you for all of your support."


lol'd
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
April 09 2011 18:47 GMT
#5
On April 10 2011 03:42 Milkis wrote:
Well played, SKT. Did not expect KT to fall apart like that during the games though.

Thanks for translating and I hope fomos at least credits this thread when they steal it ^_^;


they gave credit for the translation of the jangbi article, so most likely they will credit but without linking back to teamliquid
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 18:48:33
April 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#6
Woooo! Really well done s2, Bisu and SKT!

(To s2) You were chosen as the Winners’ League finals MVP.
▲ s2: I was panicked when I had to play a rematch in the first set, but overall, I think that I got really lucky today, which made me able to become chosen as the MVP.


God i hate it when people say they got lucky for winning a game or more. Clearly it wasn't pure luck that s2 won his games this time! 8)


Thanks for the interview, pictures and all. Very well done and much appreciated. SKT WHAITING!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
April 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#7
gratz to skt. flash did not look very confident today...:/
FTD
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 09 2011 18:48 GMT
#8
Pretty underwhelming finals but I guess SKT and their fans won't give a rat's buttocks. Congrats!
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
April 09 2011 18:49 GMT
#9
S2 has really improved this season, I'm impressed. Beating JD, Stats, etc, 3 killing, 2 killing
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
topherthetoad
Profile Joined September 2008
China130 Posts
April 09 2011 18:50 GMT
#10
YESSSS SKT!!

Sick snipe Bisu <3
Hunterai
Profile Joined October 2010
Thailand842 Posts
April 09 2011 18:51 GMT
#11
Thanks for the translation. Epic :-D
Tipany
Profile Joined November 2010
United States368 Posts
April 09 2011 18:52 GMT
#12
Bisu so pretty!
wat.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
April 09 2011 18:52 GMT
#13
Haha those pics.

I hope that after this run Ssak and S2 develop much more, all they've done to help the team has shown they can go a long way. If this doesnt boost their confidence i guess nothing will.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
April 09 2011 18:53 GMT
#14
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
April 09 2011 18:54 GMT
#15
the game was very surprising for me to watch because s2 got triple killed o:
my liquidbet jumped up so much because even though I was rooting for KT , but I voted for SKT anyway lol.
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
April 09 2011 18:56 GMT
#16
On April 10 2011 03:53 Kelberot wrote:
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epic xD gogo bisu! thanks for the translation
#1 Fantasy Fan!!!!
hitthat
Profile Joined January 2010
Poland2266 Posts
April 09 2011 18:58 GMT
#17
On April 10 2011 03:53 Kelberot wrote:
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I'm Bisu fan but...damn it, he looks like a sissy porn girl here XD
Shameless BroodWar separatistic, elitist, fanaticaly devoted puritan fanboy.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
April 09 2011 19:07 GMT
#18
On April 10 2011 03:53 Kelberot wrote:
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I was hoping someone would get that! Such a great moment, when you knew bisu had won.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
April 09 2011 19:15 GMT
#19
Thanks for translations, congrats to SKT~
[TLMS] REBOOT
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
April 09 2011 19:18 GMT
#20
thanks spica! nicely done!!

very happy for them and s2 for getting MVP!!

~ The Ultimate Weapon
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
April 09 2011 19:31 GMT
#21
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

congrats to SKT1......

NEXT TIME.......
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san-tokie
Profile Joined May 2007
Korea (South)185 Posts
April 09 2011 19:49 GMT
#22
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Are those hands... Bisu's?? They don't match his face at all! t^t
pHelix Equilibria
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1134 Posts
April 09 2011 19:49 GMT
#23
I thought the S2 vs. Flash game, S2 was just hoping to lose by just throwing in Mutas to walls of turrets and rines.
The constant zealot pressure by Bisu really did Flash in.
Thanks for the write up. Fun pictures. Next time perhaps Rollllster.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
April 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#24
From the time I saw the map pool I knew the entire series hinged on whether SKT could get Flash out on Aztec. Congrats to Bisu and SKT. See you in the PL playoffs.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44177 Posts
April 09 2011 20:00 GMT
#25
So proud of these guys

I honestly thought that KT was going to win, and I certainly didn't expect SKT to roflstomp them.

s2 totally deserved mvp, and props to Bisu for sweeping up Flash rather easily. You honestly can't say that very often, and Bisu's PvT is certainly not his strong point.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
April 09 2011 20:03 GMT
#26
Thanks for interview!

v see quote
Translator:3
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
April 09 2011 20:07 GMT
#27
I wanted Flash to take it home, but I can't be upset with Bisu and s2 winning. Always nice to see an underdog do well, and Bisu of course too.

Flash lost to a very well planned build, so he doesn't need to feel too bad either.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
EndlessPain
Profile Joined June 2010
France156 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 20:10:45
April 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#28
Thanks for the interview Spica ! I just love the passion you always put into your translations (when they're SKT1-related, at least)
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 09 2011 20:12 GMT
#29
Thanks for the translation

Huge s2 fan now kekeke
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
April 09 2011 20:12 GMT
#30
Mantoss still looking manly with flowers....

Hahaha haven't had a laugh like that in a long time.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
April 09 2011 20:14 GMT
#31
Thanks for the translations and congrats to SKT1.

Also, thanks for the picture of Effort in full Hite Entus gear!
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Pafnucy
Profile Joined October 2002
Poland1124 Posts
April 09 2011 20:24 GMT
#32
Thanks Spica for translating and whole picture story! I will gladly read again, when they are done with ctrl-c ctrl-v on fomos.
Member of the "Fuck Yeah, Canata !" committee :-) to join copy/paste this
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 09 2011 20:30 GMT
#33
On April 10 2011 03:53 Kelberot wrote:
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208435&currentpage=216#4320

Lmfao Sillylaughs is a hero for capturing that moment!! I had a huge banana grin on my face when I saw Bisu bouncing up and down in pure joy in his seat. Highlight of the finals right there. XDDD
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 09 2011 20:30 GMT
#34
▲ (P)Bisu: I usually don’t really talk about builds in interviews. But since it was a build I had already used before, I was able to talk about it in advance, and the strategy I used today was the one I talked about and was the one put together to defeat (T)Flash. When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had to make double Barracks, but if he had made double Factories instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win.

The way you translated this part could be very confusing. It would be more accurate and much less confusing to read if you changed it as "rax expand" and "factory expand" or something like that.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 09 2011 20:34 GMT
#35
On April 10 2011 05:30 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
▲ (P)Bisu: I usually don’t really talk about builds in interviews. But since it was a build I had already used before, I was able to talk about it in advance, and the strategy I used today was the one I talked about and was the one put together to defeat (T)Flash. When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had to make double Barracks, but if he had made double Factories instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win.

The way you translated this part could be very confusing. It would be more accurate and much less confusing to read if you changed it as "rax expand" and "factory expand" or something like that.

Thanks for the suggestion! I just translated it as the original text said, but it's fixed now.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
April 09 2011 20:39 GMT
#36
Awesome translation and epic photo gathering with captions!!! Thank you for translations and good job and props for ya Spica!!!
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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 09 2011 20:45 GMT
#37
SUPER HAPPY WOOT!
▲ ▲ ▲
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3126 Posts
April 09 2011 21:08 GMT
#38
shiiit that was last night! thought it was tonight TT
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
April 09 2011 21:11 GMT
#39
it must feel great, bisu being the clinch ace winner for both semis and finals!
▲ ▲ ▲
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
April 09 2011 21:45 GMT
#40
Watching Bisu get so excited during that game gave me nerd chills! I started jumping and cheering myself.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
April 09 2011 21:53 GMT
#41
BISUUUUU

haha

Both Bisu and s2 are fucking heroes. S2 3 kills and Bisu rapes the last boss Flash.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
April 09 2011 21:56 GMT
#42
SKT1 Fighting! :D

Thanks for the translation and pics as always Spica. ^^
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
valaki
Profile Joined June 2009
Hungary2476 Posts
April 09 2011 22:00 GMT
#43
As someone said before, SKT is best KT!!!
ggaemo fan
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2392 Posts
April 09 2011 22:01 GMT
#44
On April 10 2011 05:34 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 05:30 koreasilver wrote:
▲ (P)Bisu: I usually don’t really talk about builds in interviews. But since it was a build I had already used before, I was able to talk about it in advance, and the strategy I used today was the one I talked about and was the one put together to defeat (T)Flash. When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had to make double Barracks, but if he had made double Factories instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win.

The way you translated this part could be very confusing. It would be more accurate and much less confusing to read if you changed it as "rax expand" and "factory expand" or something like that.

Thanks for the suggestion! I just translated it as the original text said, but it's fixed now.

Not "double barracks" but "barracks double", the double referring to a second CC. I'm pretty sure that's how Koreans refer to rax-CC (and ditto for fac-CC), though I don't speak the language so take this with a grain of salt.
The original Bogus fan.
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 09 2011 22:03 GMT
#45
On April 10 2011 07:01 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 05:34 Spica wrote:
On April 10 2011 05:30 koreasilver wrote:
▲ (P)Bisu: I usually don’t really talk about builds in interviews. But since it was a build I had already used before, I was able to talk about it in advance, and the strategy I used today was the one I talked about and was the one put together to defeat (T)Flash. When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had to make double Barracks, but if he had made double Factories instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win.

The way you translated this part could be very confusing. It would be more accurate and much less confusing to read if you changed it as "rax expand" and "factory expand" or something like that.

Thanks for the suggestion! I just translated it as the original text said, but it's fixed now.

Not "double barracks" but "barracks double", the double referring to a second CC. I'm pretty sure that's how Koreans refer to rax-CC (and ditto for fac-CC), though I don't speak the language so take this with a grain of salt.

Yeah, Bisu actually said "barracks double", but I was confused and thought I should translate it as "double rax" instead, which apparently was wrong. But thanks for pointing out the mistake... again.
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
April 09 2011 22:07 GMT
#46
Just throwin it out there, but I think oov looks like asian clinton.
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Enervate
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1769 Posts
April 09 2011 22:14 GMT
#47
Lol I like how they pre-made the shirts that say T1 Champions!. I know KT probably had their own shirts too. Just thought it was funny.

Anyways, loved the pics and captions.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
April 09 2011 22:15 GMT
#48
Giddy, bouncing Bisu was so cute XD
ironcell
Profile Joined January 2010
Chile1127 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 22:23:50
April 09 2011 22:23 GMT
#49
Yesss, I gonna watch this asap.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
April 09 2011 22:29 GMT
#50
<3

Long live T1.
#TeamBuLba
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
April 09 2011 22:29 GMT
#51
It's nuts, but I think Bisu looked happier after the match than I've ever seen him, and that's including his MSL championships.
where
Profile Joined February 2011
144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-09 22:45:36
April 09 2011 22:36 GMT
#52
awww yeah s2 god mode + KTY

ty for trans and epic pics
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
April 09 2011 22:42 GMT
#53
Thanks for the translation Spica. Also, I always enjoy reading your pics - keep up the good work!
Chimpalimp
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1135 Posts
April 09 2011 22:47 GMT
#54
SKT fighting! The Bisu vs. Flash game made me jump like a little school girl.
I like money. You like money too? We should hang out.
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
April 09 2011 23:30 GMT
#55
3 kills from s2. Yes, s2 was scary in final SWL this time because he proves to me he is good and playing very well. s2 3 kills show to me that SKT zerg is not dying anymore. SKT zerg was always doing surprise. And s2 win MVP in final SWL .You deserved it. Congrats s2.

Bisu was sooo happy this time. Finally he show his happiness to us :D
Congrats to SKT for winning the final SWL 10-11 and thanks s2 and Bisu.
by the way, thank you for translating. I'm really appreciate it :D and the pictures caption was hilarious :D
Learn,live and love it.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
April 10 2011 00:06 GMT
#56
Holy crap they actually delivered instead of rolling over and dying to KT.

s2 is a friggin hero

Thanks for the translation.
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
April 10 2011 00:13 GMT
#57
Bisu > Flash in SWL Finals

===>

Bisu > Flash in MSL in 2 weeks

ezpeezy
Eywa-
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada4876 Posts
April 10 2011 00:25 GMT
#58
Bisu never ceases to amaze me :D
Being mannered is almost as important as winning. Almost...
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
April 10 2011 00:25 GMT
#59
I hope that the confidence boost for Bisu gets him in all-three-matchups-taek-shin mode.
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
April 10 2011 00:38 GMT
#60
Thanks! Great job. I like how you included all the pictures, too.
KTY
Turgid
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1623 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 00:44:32
April 10 2011 00:43 GMT
#61
Haha wow! I'm so happy for Bisu now. Reading about an amazing cho-gosu such as Bisu having shaking hands after a match and bouncing in his chair really endears me to him. I have to say that in general I'm a bigger fan of Flash than Bisu, so I should be sad, but Bisu played like a true boss in that game and I love him for it. Now for that pesky PVP...
(╬ ಠ益ಠ)
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
April 10 2011 00:54 GMT
#62
Happy Bisu is happy
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
April 10 2011 00:55 GMT
#63
Nice pics. Bisu looked so happy when he won... I guess his team deserved it.

Until next time then!
Brood War loyalist
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
April 10 2011 01:07 GMT
#64
This makes the MSL Flash V Bisu very interesting
Khul Sadukar
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 01:16:47
April 10 2011 01:16 GMT
#65
GG SKT!

That was a pimp game by S2 in the 3rd set. And Bisu, what to say!

What an incredible end to the finals. First time i've watched BW in a while.

I'd also like to thank Riot for having a server outage, otherwise I may have missed this alltogether lol.

Tx for translation and sweet pics Spica!
I don't want to be part everything. I want to be something. - Weapon X
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 10 2011 01:22 GMT
#66
Now lets see what Bisu has planned for the MSL..
Writerptrk
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
April 10 2011 01:35 GMT
#67
Omg...When I saw the game between Bisu and Flash, I was so anxious, especially when Flash had the contain going, but when Bisu started jumping in his chair, I had a huge banana grin on my face. I'm really happy that Bisu ended his losing streak vs Flash. (In fact it's kinda funny cause Bisu 1st loss in WL was to Flash, and his last win in WL is to Flash =D)
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 01:38:15
April 10 2011 01:37 GMT
#68
Fantastic image highlight section!
Love you!

I was jumping for joy as the final match concluded. Victory never tasted sweeter.
erin[go]bragh
Profile Joined December 2008
United States815 Posts
April 10 2011 01:50 GMT
#69
Was so much fun to watch (ignoring the ppp incidents..) grats SKT!

The Bisu Bounce was definitely a highlight of the night, and I also didn't realize until it was pointed out in the LR thread that S2 is the shape of a heart. My mind has been blown! Grats S2 for putting the "T1 Zerg" meme to rest!
JulyZerg! by.hero, effOrt, KTY.
moochu
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia374 Posts
April 10 2011 02:15 GMT
#70
Does it feel like KT didn't plan a strategy at all and just played standardly letting SKT counter them perfectly? Seems like a lot of teams do this when vsing SKT.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 02:23:57
April 10 2011 02:20 GMT
#71
DES Interview with Coach:

Manager Park Young Oon: "We won according to scenario"
[image loading]


Q: Why did you lead with s2?
A: How the games went tonight were actually one of the scenarios we considered. To be honest we concentrated more on Stats than Action. It's good management to send out newer players at the front so they got to play, and because they won, we were able to have the game flow the way we wanted it. s2 got a 3 kill and was able to guide the series without a hitch.

Q: s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.

Q: You have gained the triple crown. What is the next goal?
A: We definitely do not want to let KT take the finals at GwangAhnRi. That is our goal. After we got second place, we were really disappointed, and so this time we will pay them back with a victory. As for long term goals, I will tell them after we win at KwangAhnRi.

Q: Workshop starts tomorrow. What kind of preparations are you going to do?
A: It is true that our schedule is very tight. The players are tired from practicing quite a bit, but I think that it's better to give them a break with the team as a whole. If we give them a lot of personal time, the players might get a little loose. While we will give them personal vacation time, we will have them rest within the team as much as possible.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=42501 [T/N: Sup Fomos, can't steal this one ^^;;;]

pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
April 10 2011 02:26 GMT
#72
im soo happy for them <3 thanks for the translation!
yoyo!
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
April 10 2011 02:30 GMT
#73
Thanks for the translation!
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
April 10 2011 02:32 GMT
#74
On April 10 2011 03:53 Kelberot wrote:
[image loading]
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208435&currentpage=216#4320



awwww soo cuute LOL that's one happy bisu!
yoyo!
Spica
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5582 Posts
April 10 2011 02:56 GMT
#75
On April 10 2011 11:20 Milkis wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
DES Interview with Coach:

Manager Park Young Oon: "We won according to scenario"
[image loading]


Q: Why did you lead with s2?
A: How the games went tonight were actually one of the scenarios we considered. To be honest we concentrated more on Stats than Action. It's good management to send out newer players at the front so they got to play, and because they won, we were able to have the game flow the way we wanted it. s2 got a 3 kill and was able to guide the series without a hitch.

Q: s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.

Q: You have gained the triple crown. What is the next goal?
A: We definitely do not want to let KT take the finals at GwangAhnRi. That is our goal. After we got second place, we were really disappointed, and so this time we will pay them back with a victory. As for long term goals, I will tell them after we win at KwangAhnRi.

Q: Workshop starts tomorrow. What kind of preparations are you going to do?
A: It is true that our schedule is very tight. The players are tired from practicing quite a bit, but I think that it's better to give them a break with the team as a whole. If we give them a lot of personal time, the players might get a little loose. While we will give them personal vacation time, we will have them rest within the team as much as possible.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=42501 [T/N: Sup Fomos, can't steal this one ^^;;;]

Thaaanks for the translation and letting my laziness pay off~ Added to OP. :D
How to pronounce the name: "SPY-ka" | Proud to share the same birthday with Shin (神) Dong Won and the almighty BoxeR | 리쌍도 나무에서 떨어진다. | To YellOw: "2位じゃダメなんですか?" ㅋㅋㅋ | Rest in peace, Violet. 08/23/12
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
April 10 2011 02:59 GMT
#76
"It's good management to send out newer players at the front"

YES! This man knows what he's doing. Also, the BO-switch for s2 was brilliant and possibly the decisive factor.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
April 10 2011 03:08 GMT
#77
bisu. so beautiful.

last night just made me so happy =]
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
April 10 2011 03:16 GMT
#78
On April 10 2011 03:53 Kelberot wrote:
[image loading]
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=208435&currentpage=216#4320



HAHA SO EPIC!!! I thought it was cute how much emotion he showed, that's just good for esports, normally they are like robots.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
April 10 2011 03:19 GMT
#79
Congrats to SKT and great work from s2 and Bisu. Man that guy was one happy dude when he destroyed Flash's tank line.
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
zenkicker
Profile Joined December 2008
257 Posts
April 10 2011 03:29 GMT
#80
Now where will SKT celebrate? Will they go to Hawaii as they planned last year?
I you cant beat them, join them.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#81
Thanks Spica!
nextstep
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada705 Posts
April 10 2011 04:31 GMT
#82
grats SKT! thanks for the interview~
go KHAN! TBLS <3
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
April 10 2011 04:37 GMT
#83
Thanks for the interview translations; fantastic interviews! Thanks for including heaps of pictures as well, and the gif lol I love it. I was so happy when I saw Bisu all giddy hahaha.
Congratulations to SKT T1 for the win! S2 did a fantastic job and I'm glad he got the MVP award.
What a night it was last night :D
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1542 Posts
April 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#84
I am very satisfy with the result, at least less Flash wanking.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
April 10 2011 05:47 GMT
#85
Has anyone figured out what Flash was doing with that ruler?
bisu fanboy
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
April 10 2011 06:00 GMT
#86
On April 10 2011 14:47 fearus wrote:
Has anyone figured out what Flash was doing with that ruler?


Flash always measures everything, to have the setup exactly the same as when he practices. He's been doing that for ages. Alot of progamers do it.
Jaedong and Baby
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
April 10 2011 06:44 GMT
#87
Woah awesome pictures <33
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
FractalsOnFire
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:31:10
April 10 2011 07:30 GMT
#88
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Whoa whoa whoa, is that a ring on reach's left hand ring finger? Doesn't that usually signify marriage...
SkytoM
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Austria1137 Posts
April 10 2011 07:34 GMT
#89
On April 10 2011 11:20 Milkis wrote:
Q: Workshop starts tomorrow. What kind of preparations are you going to do?
A: It is true that our schedule is very tight. The players are tired from practicing quite a bit, but I think that it's better to give them a break with the team as a whole. If we give them a lot of personal time, the players might get a little loose. While we will give them personal vacation time, we will have them rest within the team as much as possible.



HaHa :D SKT a bunch of players and drinkers ~~ ^^
Bisu... ;-(
entocheets
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia367 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 07:59:57
April 10 2011 07:59 GMT
#90
Thanks for the pics, really cool. Hey that KeSPA ref is a bit of a qt ^^
##creepers 4 lyf
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
April 10 2011 08:25 GMT
#91
i am a very huge kt fan but i will congratulations to skt! s2 stepped up very well definitely.

A few things I kind of disagreed with kt's decisions (but yes, just mine, I'm not a pro I know, just my opinion please respect it)

1. When action went for the attack with his muta ling, he should have moved his zerglings fully in instead of attacking at the expansion, and guard the choke to the main. As a zerg player, I do that often and I found it works well. The lings destroy the spores and the mutas block the lings from coming. I learned it from Jaedong vs his game against Zero, that he unfortunately lost.

2. I was hoping that Crazy-Hydra wouldnt play to be honest. I wanted to see someone deeper within the KT blood play. I think I would have put in Barracks or even Flash at number 2. Although he is the "final boss" its more comforting to see him get kills immediately into the bo7.

3. Flash had a nice contain but he had his 1 expansion while Bisu had three. The contain itself was overstretched although it looked very nice.

But yeah, well done SKT. Very well played and I never thought I would see s2 get three kills and Flash lose to Bisu. Lets hope for a rematch at the PL finals!
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
stath44
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
April 10 2011 09:02 GMT
#92
Bisu in his interview clamed that flash had to go for 2 barracks! why you did the correction to a factory in your last edit Spica?
fishbowl
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1575 Posts
April 10 2011 10:04 GMT
#93
On April 10 2011 18:02 stath44 wrote:
Bisu in his interview clamed that flash had to go for 2 barracks! why you did the correction to a factory in your last edit Spica?

On April 10 2011 05:30 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
▲ (P)Bisu: I usually don’t really talk about builds in interviews. But since it was a build I had already used before, I was able to talk about it in advance, and the strategy I used today was the one I talked about and was the one put together to defeat (T)Flash. When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had to make double Barracks, but if he had made double Factories instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win.

The way you translated this part could be very confusing. It would be more accurate and much less confusing to read if you changed it as "rax expand" and "factory expand" or something like that.

stath44
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 10:29:37
April 10 2011 10:15 GMT
#94
They had also 2 barracks in here after the Last edit: 2011-04-10 11:54:33 was changed into a factory you see i'm a HUGE Bisu FAN and maybe he clame that for a reason.

Ps So Spica can you tell me what happened and you changed the 2 barracks into a Factory?
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
April 10 2011 10:25 GMT
#95
SKT1 for the win!


So funny to see bisu show emotions! not usually something I see!
Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
April 10 2011 10:33 GMT
#96
<3 the Mantoss picture. (Even though it's sad).
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 10:59:43
April 10 2011 10:34 GMT
#97
On April 10 2011 18:02 stath44 wrote:
Bisu in his interview clamed that flash had to go for 2 barracks! why you did the correction to a factory in your last edit Spica?


Spica's current translation is correct. "Double" almost always refers to expanding.
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
April 10 2011 10:34 GMT
#98
Thanks for the translation!
stath44
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
April 10 2011 10:43 GMT
#99
So Spica edits his post and makes his translation from 2 barracks 1 factory Milks? i missing the point in here.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
April 10 2011 10:54 GMT
#100
On April 10 2011 19:43 stath44 wrote:
So Spica edits his post and makes his translation from 2 barracks 1 factory Milks? i missing the point in here.


in korean it says "barracks double" and "factory double"

spica thought that mean two rax and two fac.

it actually means rax expand and fac expand.

the translation was incorrect and is now correct.
~
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 10:57:33
April 10 2011 10:54 GMT
#101
On April 10 2011 19:43 stath44 wrote:
So Spica edits his post and makes his translation from 2 barracks 1 factory Milks? i missing the point in here.


Hmm, I think you may be misreading something then.

Original Korean: "내가 질럿 푸시를 할 때 영호가 배럭 더블을 선택해야 되는 전략이었고, 상대가 팩 더블을 했다면 불리했을 수도 있는데 잘 맞아떨어져서 생각한 대로 이끌어 갈 수 있었다. "

"When I pushed out with my Zealots, for my strategy to work, Flash had go for a rax expand, but if he had gone for a factory expand instead, then I could have been at a disadvantage, but since the game went the way I wanted it to go, I was able to win."

The idea is that factory expand -> faster vultures -> zealots dont do as much damage and Bisu is at a disadvantage. So, for Bisu's strat to work flash had to go Rax Expand, so that's why Bisu says this.

Not too sure what you're talking about :S
vommy
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany532 Posts
April 10 2011 10:55 GMT
#102
congratz SkT and thanks for the interview
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Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6174 Posts
April 10 2011 10:57 GMT
#103
Thanks for the translation.
And great job SKT!
stath44
Profile Joined April 2011
4 Posts
April 10 2011 10:57 GMT
#104
I'm glad that finaly you all helped Spica to make his transaltion correct.

gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
April 10 2011 10:59 GMT
#105
I. WAS. THERE. xD
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
gongryong
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)1430 Posts
April 10 2011 11:10 GMT
#106
some link to the vods?
JAEDONG ÜBERBONJWA!
KMARTRULES
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia474 Posts
April 10 2011 11:35 GMT
#107
Best part was GNA...
TheSurgeonTV
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States131 Posts
April 10 2011 12:04 GMT
#108
What a sad series.
Bringing Starcraft Main Stream
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
April 10 2011 13:16 GMT
#109
Bisu! Bisu! Bisu!
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
IMbad
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway24 Posts
April 10 2011 13:24 GMT
#110
OOV bad hair day. Look 100years old.
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
April 10 2011 13:24 GMT
#111
Thanks a bunch for the translation!
Nice greeting to fomos. :D
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Svennedude
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium86 Posts
April 10 2011 13:29 GMT
#112
Congrats to the winner, though I found the finals to be a little underwhelming, interesting build of Bisu :p
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
April 10 2011 13:38 GMT
#113
On April 10 2011 19:59 gongryong wrote:
I. WAS. THERE. xD


Stop making us jelly please .. -_-
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Striding Strider
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom787 Posts
April 10 2011 13:40 GMT
#114
Amazing play by s2 and really happy for Bisu. :D
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 13:50:09
April 10 2011 13:49 GMT
#115
God watching that shot of Kang Min cheer for KTF during Bisu versus Flash...

Also, Bisu's strat worked and Flash still had a commanding position in midgame. Flash is so good...
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Nomadic
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom312 Posts
April 10 2011 14:09 GMT
#116
Flash
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
April 10 2011 14:15 GMT
#117
Thanks for the translation! G.NA ftw.
Dear Sixsmith...
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
April 10 2011 15:09 GMT
#118
loved all the games of the finals, thanks for the translations!
BW is back
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
April 10 2011 15:14 GMT
#119
If Bisu sees factory expand he can stop zealot production though and still get goons out in time. He scouted first so he could have made a single zealot and stopped the plan anyway. Even if he scouted late it's only 2 zealots produced that was not needed (and its not like zealots are useless still). He is being modest; I mean yes he could have been at a very slight disadvantage but people taking it to mean it was zealot pump or lose are just wrong.
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 10 2011 15:38 GMT
#120
Great Games but..
What's with the haircut... oov
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wangabe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States5 Posts
April 10 2011 15:52 GMT
#121
http://www.youtube.com/user/skelephile#p/u/4/98j_J8BnkCk

this guy has the finals in his channel. Haven't finished watching yet. Seems like a complete collection.
Horiz0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Sweden364 Posts
April 10 2011 16:44 GMT
#122
On April 10 2011 03:34 Spica wrote:
Q: (Z)s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, (Z)s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like (Z)Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.



I did not know this... Thanks for the translation <3
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
April 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#123
nice translation. cool series and how on earth did oov think that hairstyle was goodlooking? he looked like he was 50
Translator
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
April 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#124
On April 11 2011 00:52 wangabe wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/user/skelephile#p/u/4/98j_J8BnkCk

this guy has the finals in his channel. Haven't finished watching yet. Seems like a complete collection.



Yea but it is a different cam.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
April 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#125
On April 10 2011 22:49 thunk wrote:
Also, Bisu's strat worked and Flash still had a commanding position in midgame. Flash is so good...

Not even close. There was no way that push could've worked, Bisu had too much macro. After those vultures dies without claiming a single probe, Flash simply had no way of coming back; Bisu was able to get his 4 base macro running without trouble.
He didn't have any zealots when that push moved out, but he had a few dozen when he went to break it. That's how much more macro he had.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
April 10 2011 17:12 GMT
#126
BISU YEAH@!
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-10 19:02:38
April 10 2011 18:58 GMT
#127
Sigh, good job bisu on winning on a 66% pvt map against flash...
grumble grumble.

Wish the games were a little less... cheesy overall. But still exciting series.

On April 11 2011 02:11 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2011 22:49 thunk wrote:
Also, Bisu's strat worked and Flash still had a commanding position in midgame. Flash is so good...

Not even close. There was no way that push could've worked, Bisu had too much macro. After those vultures dies without claiming a single probe, Flash simply had no way of coming back; Bisu was able to get his 4 base macro running without trouble.
He didn't have any zealots when that push moved out, but he had a few dozen when he went to break it. That's how much more macro he had.



To be honest, the "not killing probes" wasn't why Flash didn't win. Flash didn't win because his build order really wasn't designed for a 5/6 factory timing push like it was executed, coupled with the fact that (both of their) build orders were slowed down by the constant zealot attack. Flash's play really felt as though it were designed to get a third base and probably hit with an 8 factory 2-1 push (notice the mega fast +1) Flash just wasn't playing to his build and forced something unnatural - he would have been better off trying to play from behind (and get some clutch emps) than to push in that position [all of us terran players have lost like that a thousand times before :|].

Also, Flash really wasn't in a comfortable position to push - in fact, there really isn't a comfortable way to push on that map - lending to terran troubles on that map.
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Rinrun
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada3509 Posts
April 10 2011 19:15 GMT
#128
Bisu: "Uhuhuh, I beat Flash for once! Uhuhuhuhuh↗"
I see what you did there.

KONG.
MBC/Liquid/TSM always.
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3329 Posts
April 10 2011 21:05 GMT
#129
like the picspam thanks!!!
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dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
April 10 2011 21:46 GMT
#130
Epic 3-kill by (Z)s2, I was really surprised and impressed. Its good to see new(ish) faces take some wins.


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Soto
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada56 Posts
April 10 2011 23:33 GMT
#131
great matches! SKT fighting ^^
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henzi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
April 11 2011 02:47 GMT
#132
Coach Park: "How is a T1 Zerg winning this, I don't even-"



ahahahaha
amethyst
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States98 Posts
April 11 2011 05:14 GMT
#133
Thanks for the awesome translation Spica! It's always a pleasure to read your translations.


GOOOOOOO SKT!!! s2 was awesome! and Bisu so cute! <3 *bounce bounce*
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
April 11 2011 06:42 GMT
#134
thanks for the translation.. people at the time were saying s2 fluked the first 2 games because it was zvz but he won because he played both beautifully. people who say every zvz is a coin flip obviously do not pay attention to the play and just have resigned to their own biased ideas.

anyway, does anyone know when the next season starts? i'm friggin excited for the next season of fantasy of course ^_^
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
April 11 2011 06:51 GMT
#135
On April 11 2011 15:42 GG_NO_RE wrote:
thanks for the translation.. people at the time were saying s2 fluked the first 2 games because it was zvz but he won because he played both beautifully. people who say every zvz is a coin flip obviously do not pay attention to the play and just have resigned to their own biased ideas.

anyway, does anyone know when the next season starts? i'm friggin excited for the next season of fantasy of course ^_^

the second game itself had s2 with a disadvantage, but pulled off a win with really good control.
Writerptrk
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
April 11 2011 13:48 GMT
#136
Great write-up, I'm glad I was wrong in the bet.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 11 2011 14:37 GMT
#137
Kong curse.
:)
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
April 11 2011 15:29 GMT
#138
On April 10 2011 11:20 Milkis wrote:
DES Interview with Coach:

Manager Park Young Oon: "We won according to scenario"
[image loading]


Q: Why did you lead with s2?
A: How the games went tonight were actually one of the scenarios we considered. To be honest we concentrated more on Stats than Action. It's good management to send out newer players at the front so they got to play, and because they won, we were able to have the game flow the way we wanted it. s2 got a 3 kill and was able to guide the series without a hitch.

Q: s2's strategy changed after the regame. What kind of order did you give him?
A: Before the regame, s2 did a 9 pool, and it looked like Action was very prepared. So we decided that it'd be difficult for Action to make major changes to his build, and so we decided that the opponent would not be able to use 12 hatch, so I told s2 to use the build he did. That's why we were able to get the win.

Q: You have gained the triple crown. What is the next goal?
A: We definitely do not want to let KT take the finals at GwangAhnRi. That is our goal. After we got second place, we were really disappointed, and so this time we will pay them back with a victory. As for long term goals, I will tell them after we win at KwangAhnRi.

Q: Workshop starts tomorrow. What kind of preparations are you going to do?
A: It is true that our schedule is very tight. The players are tired from practicing quite a bit, but I think that it's better to give them a break with the team as a whole. If we give them a lot of personal time, the players might get a little loose. While we will give them personal vacation time, we will have them rest within the team as much as possible.

Source: http://esports.dailygame.co.kr/news/read.php?id=42501 [T/N: Sup Fomos, can't steal this one ^^;;;]



This coach is so fucking baller.
FUCK YEAH SKT YEAH!
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
April 11 2011 17:16 GMT
#139
I remember when I first start watching Professional Starcraft, Bisu, Flash is on par while Jaedong is the tyrant.

Now so much have changed, now Flash is the absolute aha. The Alpha & The Omega.

Ah, when will flash switch to SC2?
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
April 11 2011 18:05 GMT
#140
On April 11 2011 00:14 infinity2k9 wrote:
If Bisu sees factory expand he can stop zealot production though and still get goons out in time. He scouted first so he could have made a single zealot and stopped the plan anyway. Even if he scouted late it's only 2 zealots produced that was not needed (and its not like zealots are useless still). He is being modest; I mean yes he could have been at a very slight disadvantage but people taking it to mean it was zealot pump or lose are just wrong.

A big part of it is how much Bisu delayed his gas. If Flash went factory expand his opening would just be more smoother than Bisu with his 1gate expo -> gas.
Selth
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States469 Posts
April 11 2011 21:14 GMT
#141
I had to fall asleep an hour before the finals. ;_; At least SKT won! :D Thanks for the translation!
SKT FIGHTING!!!
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
April 11 2011 23:53 GMT
#142
curse of the hyungs still intact... KT will not taste gold as long as (Z)YellOw and (P)Reach are members!

also, s2 3-killing being the plan... love it lol
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 13 2011 03:11 GMT
#143
On April 12 2011 02:16 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
I remember when I first start watching Professional Starcraft, Bisu, Flash is on par while Jaedong is the tyrant.

Now so much have changed, now Flash is the absolute aha. The Alpha & The Omega.

Ah, when will flash switch to SC2?


hopefully never, itd be a waste of his gifts
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
April 13 2011 03:19 GMT
#144
On April 13 2011 12:11 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2011 02:16 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
I remember when I first start watching Professional Starcraft, Bisu, Flash is on par while Jaedong is the tyrant.

Now so much have changed, now Flash is the absolute aha. The Alpha & The Omega.

Ah, when will flash switch to SC2?


hopefully never, itd be a waste of his gifts

You say gifts, as though it's possible to give these to someone.
Flash was born with his CPU. It was not given to him.
☺
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19229 Posts
April 13 2011 03:23 GMT
#145
On April 13 2011 12:19 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2011 12:11 Legatus Lanius wrote:
On April 12 2011 02:16 XiaoJoyce- wrote:
I remember when I first start watching Professional Starcraft, Bisu, Flash is on par while Jaedong is the tyrant.

Now so much have changed, now Flash is the absolute aha. The Alpha & The Omega.

Ah, when will flash switch to SC2?


hopefully never, itd be a waste of his gifts

You say gifts, as though it's possible to give these to someone.
Flash was born with his CPU. It was not given to him.


Is being born not a gift itself from your mother?
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Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
April 13 2011 03:30 GMT
#146
fine, itd be a waste of his abilities. is everyone happy now?
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