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[Q] The most influential progamers of all time? - Page 5

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BtBEviL
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil35 Posts
March 30 2011 22:26 GMT
#81
I think nal_ra, garimto, reach and anytime are the best protoss of all time so far. - 5 stars to all
Terrans to me are boxer, iloveoov, nada and flash - 5 stars to all
Zerg yellow, savior, jaedong, julyzerg - 5 stars to all

MBC Fighting, Stork Fan, Nal_Ra fan, Bisu Fan, Shuttle Fan
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 30 2011 22:38 GMT
#82
Such a faulty list. Not so much the "5 star" but the "3 star." You're putting Garimto on the same level as foru and Kal? Garimto played such a huge role in defining the direction Protoss players would take.

Also lots of people are missing, especially old schoolers. Giyom, Maynard, St.Eagle, TheMarine, ChRh, Byun, IntoTheRain, JinNam, etc.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
thestool91
Profile Joined August 2007
672 Posts
March 30 2011 22:39 GMT
#83
I think boxer should be like 6 stars. Like said previously, his name is a household name.
My parents who dont even know what starcraft is knows Lim Yo Hwan. The name boxer carries is in my opinion, bigger than at least half the names of the celebrities recognized in Korea
the dreamer, mantoss, storm zerg, the cowboy, the spark terran, the ultimate weapon...what more can i say? GO KTF
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 22:52:54
March 30 2011 22:50 GMT
#84
Really don't feel that Kal deserves to be mentioned alongside names like Stork, Fantasy and XellOs. The 4 stars should be reinstated and names like Stork, Kingdom, Fantasy, Reach, July belong there.
imo.

Neither Flash, Jaedong or July has been huge influences like Boxer has been. But Flash and Jaedong are a trillion times more skilled than July ever was. July is a prime 4-star candidate. Perhaps nal_ra too?
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
March 30 2011 22:52 GMT
#85
On March 31 2011 07:39 thestool91 wrote:
I think boxer should be like 6 stars. Like said previously, his name is a household name.
My parents who dont even know what starcraft is knows Lim Yo Hwan. The name boxer carries is in my opinion, bigger than at least half the names of the celebrities recognized in Korea

Ever seen those terrans irradiating their SVs and kill stuff? lol yea it was all popularised/created by boxer himself.
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 30 2011 22:53 GMT
#86
Kang Min def 5 stars.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
March 30 2011 22:54 GMT
#87
On March 31 2011 07:52 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 07:39 thestool91 wrote:
I think boxer should be like 6 stars. Like said previously, his name is a household name.
My parents who dont even know what starcraft is knows Lim Yo Hwan. The name boxer carries is in my opinion, bigger than at least half the names of the celebrities recognized in Korea

Ever seen those terrans irradiating their SVs and kill stuff? lol yea it was all popularised/created by boxer himself.


Terran wall in man, guess who invented it?
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 23:08:23
March 30 2011 22:56 GMT
#88
Did anyone mention Maynard from the Maynard transfer?
I dunno, but getting a move assigned to your name that is now considered standard is kind of an achievement.

It´s about influence they had, right? So imho Maynard and maybe Grrrr deserve mention at the very least. They are not boxer, for sure, but Boxer didn´t invent all moves in the game. He invented quite a lot, like mech vs protoss if I remember right.
The inventor of Muta stacking(people here say it was shark, I don´t know) should get on the list too.

Being good at the game is half mechanical and half mindgame but being respected for skill doesn´t mean you influenced anything.
[edit] Just remembered you want the list to be about korean progaming only, more or less. Then you definitely need grrrr in there, he is the only foreigner who won an OSL in korea and he still lives there.

Also Boxer should be definitely solo at the very top. He is the Emperor for a reason. He is the first progamer I heard about.
From his wikipedia entry:
Dubbed The Emperor by his fans, he is the most popular Starcraft player with a fan club of more than 1,000,000 members and a DVD compilation of his greatest games released in South Korea.

Please put the Emperor on a Throne on the list. 1 Star higher than everyone else.
[/edit]
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
March 30 2011 23:12 GMT
#89
On March 31 2011 05:32 bearbuddy wrote:
Ra should be 5. Name one PvZ build that doesn't start with forge FE and isn't a cheese.

Never mind. Didn't see that new list.

?? 10/12 Gate isnt a cheese, 1 Gate expand is viable on certain maps and 1 Gate Tech into expo isn't a cheese either..
Writerptrk
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
March 30 2011 23:52 GMT
#90
On March 31 2011 07:39 thestool91 wrote:
I think boxer should be like 6 stars. Like said previously, his name is a household name.
My parents who dont even know what starcraft is knows Lim Yo Hwan. The name boxer carries is in my opinion, bigger than at least half the names of the celebrities recognized in Korea

I almost agreed on putting only Him on 6 stars until I realized how he can also influence BW players to switch to SC2 :p.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
March 30 2011 23:56 GMT
#91
On March 31 2011 07:54 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 07:52 thoradycus wrote:
On March 31 2011 07:39 thestool91 wrote:
I think boxer should be like 6 stars. Like said previously, his name is a household name.
My parents who dont even know what starcraft is knows Lim Yo Hwan. The name boxer carries is in my opinion, bigger than at least half the names of the celebrities recognized in Korea

Ever seen those terrans irradiating their SVs and kill stuff? lol yea it was all popularised/created by boxer himself.


Terran wall in man, guess who invented it?


Actually pretty sure this one is false. I think St.Eagle is the actual inventor of the wall. St.Eagle is the ultimate grandfather of TvP, the inventor of metal.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
March 31 2011 00:07 GMT
#92
Grrr... definitely deserves a place at 3 stars, even if he didn't win more than 1 title. After all, he created most of the common strategies we use today, including the gas steal.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-31 00:13:24
March 31 2011 00:12 GMT
#93
Glad to see people taking note of Midas. His contribution to the game is much greater than his medal count of 0 would indicate.

Kal is kind of a joke though, he has no real place on this list that I can think of.

Effort is also a pretty major stretch at 3.
the last wcs commissioner
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2588 Posts
March 31 2011 00:49 GMT
#94
On March 31 2011 09:12 tedster wrote:
Glad to see people taking note of Midas. His contribution to the game is much greater than his medal count of 0 would indicate.



http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/72_Nine_Dragons_ODT_R1

Nawwww, he did win an OSL.... a much less cited one
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
March 31 2011 00:49 GMT
#95
This thread is reeking of fanboyism! :D
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 31 2011 00:57 GMT
#96
On March 31 2011 09:49 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2011 09:12 tedster wrote:
Glad to see people taking note of Midas. His contribution to the game is much greater than his medal count of 0 would indicate.



http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/leagues/72_Nine_Dragons_ODT_R1

Nawwww, he did win an OSL.... a much less cited one


....

ODT =/= OSL
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
March 31 2011 01:08 GMT
#97
On March 31 2011 00:17 NotGood- wrote:
I think Savior should be a 5 star he used to beast all his games, and was a bigger zerg then july. But then again its all just opinion and savior was a match fixer =o.


Well depending on what you mean by "influential", being convicted of match fixing and being given the title of bonjwa are both pretty influential.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4206 Posts
March 31 2011 01:33 GMT
#98
I'd say FBH was pretty influential at one point in time.
( ・´ー・`)
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19250 Posts
March 31 2011 01:48 GMT
#99
On March 31 2011 10:33 prototype. wrote:
I'd say FBH was pretty influential at one point in time.


I am going to have to agree. FBH was most influential in the scene outside of his gameplay. He introduced taunting and celebrations and ofc brought the BM in game too. He gave life to the very well known "serious" SC:BW scene.
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FakePlasticLove
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States357 Posts
March 31 2011 02:09 GMT
#100
Take Fantasy's 3 stars and make Oov have 8....
All walls are great if the roof doesn't fall
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