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World Cyber Games to officially retire StarCraft 1 - Page 20

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sCCrooked
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1306 Posts
March 07 2011 13:50 GMT
#381
I'm willing to bet that SC2 doesn't receive so huge an audience that BW drew. I think we all saw this coming though. WCG:BW really was just an arena for the Koreans to go "lol" at.

I kind of hope we don't have another GSL incident though due to this change.
Enlightened in an age of anti-intellectualism and quotidian repetitiveness of asinine assumptive thinking. Best lycan guide evar --> "Fixing solo queue all pick one game at a time." ~KwarK-
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 07 2011 13:55 GMT
#382
*sigh*

That probably means all the other WCG events will pull BW too.....
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 13:59:48
March 07 2011 13:57 GMT
#383
On March 07 2011 22:34 Wazabo wrote:
I have to say I got into the BW/SC2 pro-scene by randomly jumping into TL.net asking for a tech help on SC2. I knew it was pretty important scene, but not THAT big. At the moment I don't even play the game, but I follow it as much as I can.

Considering that I find pretty hard to call sport a game owned by a private company, I think we're going in the right direction to get it really popular everywhere. The numbers are on SC2 side. I really doubt there are BW youtube channels with hundred millions of views. SC2 streamings are getting really popular with increasing numbers all the time. To me this looks like the best shot to get e-sports in the western world like it is in Korea. I respect all the BW lovers, and I sort of understand them (I didn't like much the passage of Q3 --> QL aswell), but let's be realistic, this and all the other big tournaments announced in the western world are really good news.



Can someone remind me who it was that started this phenomenon of fans being the ones who are asigned the duty to make their sport more popular? This is basically admitting that your sport is inferior and can't gain popularity itself.

Let people not be into sc2 or esports. Recruiting other fans doesn't help you... only the people who make money off the game.

You should remember that your not Day9. Your life isn't SC.
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
br0fivE
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada349 Posts
March 07 2011 14:06 GMT
#384
good riddance! SC2 is the future!

User was warned for this post
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 14:09:38
March 07 2011 14:06 GMT
#385
On March 07 2011 22:50 sCCrooked wrote:
I'm willing to bet that SC2 doesn't receive so huge an audience that BW drew. I think we all saw this coming though. WCG:BW really was just an arena for the Koreans to go "lol" at.

I kind of hope we don't have another GSL incident though due to this change.

If Jinro's post about GSL3 finals is of any indication...
On March 07 2011 17:40 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
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On March 07 2011 17:04 jalstar wrote:
Foreign BW is officially dead, not BW in general. SC2 in Korea is unsustainable, even with the huge prize pools there's no top BW players that have switched to SC2, viewership is lower than BW's as evidenced by the finals being mostly empty, etc. With NASL and MLG coming up to distract foreign audiences I don't see the GSL lasting too much longer.

Finals being empty is a huge lie =/ They pretty much filled the arena they used for GSL3, I wasnt at GSL 4 finals so I couldnt tell you how that one went tho.

then I don't think WCG should have too much trouble getting a huge audience even without BW.

If it's in Korea, then it *might* draw a slightly smaller audience than BW, though a lot of non-fans would still be interested in checking out the SC2 event nonetheless out of curiosity and convenience. If WCG turns out to be outside of Korea despite the rumors, then I wouldn't be surprised if it draws a bigger audience for SC2 than it would have had for BW, as indicated by the huge audiences at IEM, Assembly, Dreamhack, and MLG. Dunno about non-GSL Asian tournaments, though I might need to check the numbers for the SEA IEM event.
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cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
March 07 2011 14:09 GMT
#386
its sad... but i can understand the choice. most people switched anyway
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 07 2011 14:10 GMT
#387
I was actually hoping that the WCG guys would try to host a little show match after SC2 of all the foreigners playing a couple games of BW as a tribute or whatever.

Would've been fun....but that was such a fleeting dream. xD
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By.Fantasy
Profile Joined February 2011
Thailand123 Posts
March 07 2011 14:18 GMT
#388
On March 07 2011 23:06 br0fivE wrote:
good riddance! SC2 is the future!


...... I got nothing to say... If I see more post like this I'll rage..... >.> T.T
Sigh I love SC:BW and I've never really got into SC2 much I don't know why...
SC2 just feel so different than Starcraft:Broodwar why cant BW and SC2 just co-exist? They're two different games... T.T
My english is not very good.
Masheyoon
Profile Joined October 2009
United States781 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 14:21:22
March 07 2011 14:20 GMT
#389
Well, can't say it's unexpected. Not really a big loss considering the huge perfomance gap between Koreans and non-Koreans (which actually provided some great fail moments... I'll miss those).

SC2 is a diferent story in that regard - a foreigner has never won WCG BW, but I wouldn't surprised if one of them won the first WCG SC2.

On March 07 2011 23:06 br0fivE wrote:
good riddance! SC2 is the future!


This type of ignorance is unwelcome around here (and dangerous).
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 07 2011 14:22 GMT
#390
On March 07 2011 11:59 Boblion wrote:
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On March 07 2011 11:58 Helluva wrote:
R.I.P. BW - You will be missed.

WCG is a minor tourney dude ;d

As long as the OSL and MSL are alive bw isn't dead.


So simple, yet straightforward and right to the point. Couldn't have said it better myself. All the tell-tale signs were there. WCG didn't have much of a choice.
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
March 07 2011 14:23 GMT
#391
Not sad.

It's inevitable and everyone should've seen it coming.
Just means SC2 will get bigger, yay !
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Wazabo
Profile Joined October 2010
Italy124 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-07 14:24:32
March 07 2011 14:24 GMT
#392
On March 07 2011 22:57 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 22:34 Wazabo wrote:
I have to say I got into the BW/SC2 pro-scene by randomly jumping into TL.net asking for a tech help on SC2. I knew it was pretty important scene, but not THAT big. At the moment I don't even play the game, but I follow it as much as I can.

Considering that I find pretty hard to call sport a game owned by a private company, I think we're going in the right direction to get it really popular everywhere. The numbers are on SC2 side. I really doubt there are BW youtube channels with hundred millions of views. SC2 streamings are getting really popular with increasing numbers all the time. To me this looks like the best shot to get e-sports in the western world like it is in Korea. I respect all the BW lovers, and I sort of understand them (I didn't like much the passage of Q3 --> QL aswell), but let's be realistic, this and all the other big tournaments announced in the western world are really good news.



Can someone remind me who it was that started this phenomenon of fans being the ones who are asigned the duty to make their sport more popular? This is basically admitting that your sport is inferior and can't gain popularity itself.

Let people not be into sc2 or esports. Recruiting other fans doesn't help you... only the people who make money off the game.

You should remember that your not Day9. Your life isn't SC.


I don't think I've ever "recruit" anyone into SC2 or BW, and I doubt it will ever happen. Maybe I had to use Blizzard instead of "we". But I guess anyone on this site would like to watch SC on their TVs.
Brad`
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
March 07 2011 14:24 GMT
#393
I'm only going to miss the replays.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 07 2011 14:28 GMT
#394
On March 07 2011 22:57 puppykiller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 22:34 Wazabo wrote:
I have to say I got into the BW/SC2 pro-scene by randomly jumping into TL.net asking for a tech help on SC2. I knew it was pretty important scene, but not THAT big. At the moment I don't even play the game, but I follow it as much as I can.

Considering that I find pretty hard to call sport a game owned by a private company, I think we're going in the right direction to get it really popular everywhere. The numbers are on SC2 side. I really doubt there are BW youtube channels with hundred millions of views. SC2 streamings are getting really popular with increasing numbers all the time. To me this looks like the best shot to get e-sports in the western world like it is in Korea. I respect all the BW lovers, and I sort of understand them (I didn't like much the passage of Q3 --> QL aswell), but let's be realistic, this and all the other big tournaments announced in the western world are really good news.



Can someone remind me who it was that started this phenomenon of fans being the ones who are asigned the duty to make their sport more popular? This is basically admitting that your sport is inferior and can't gain popularity itself.

Let people not be into sc2 or esports. Recruiting other fans doesn't help you... only the people who make money off the game.

You should remember that your not Day9. Your life isn't SC.


Not only that, but the guy doesn't realize that streaming didn't become popular until very recently. It's hard to give people another look at a game when

a) the technology isn't there (yet the community came out with all sorts of programs like BWChart, BWCoach, Penguin, etc.)

b) a game that is years old (instead they like fanciful graphics and something new)

You guys got to stop forcing shit. It will happen on its own accord.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
March 07 2011 14:28 GMT
#395
It seems pretty rational a decision at this point. Sc just isn't what it used to be internationally, I don't think even china has a decent shot in wcg these days?

Still very sad. I feel very nostalgic about wcg starcraft because it was basically the highpoint of the year for me as a gamer between ages 13 and 18. There wasn't anything really big to look forward to other than wcg and it even meant sweden got to send players to compete vs koreans.
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
March 07 2011 14:39 GMT
#396
Guess it's only SPL, OSL and MSL for BW scene..
ovrpwrd
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
March 07 2011 14:49 GMT
#397
i remember WCG retired cs 1.6 for cs source the year HL2 came out. shortly after that people realized that 1.6 was the better game and 1.6 was brought back the next year.
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 07 2011 14:50 GMT
#398
No big loss- the OSL and MSL are much better competitions anyway.
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 07 2011 14:53 GMT
#399
On March 07 2011 23:49 Terranist wrote:
i remember WCG retired cs 1.6 for cs source the year HL2 came out. shortly after that people realized that 1.6 was the better game and 1.6 was brought back the next year.

This is what I imagine will happen with this situation too.
Just listen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__lCZeePG48
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51298 Posts
March 07 2011 14:57 GMT
#400
On March 07 2011 23:53 etheovermind wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2011 23:49 Terranist wrote:
i remember WCG retired cs 1.6 for cs source the year HL2 came out. shortly after that people realized that 1.6 was the better game and 1.6 was brought back the next year.

This is what I imagine will happen with this situation too.


yep they will most likely have both SC2 and BW next year.
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