Live report goers are a culture in itself within Team Liquid. Quite a few of us think that these particular threads enhance the game and its enjoyability a lot, while others think these are essential for checking out Proleague/OSL/MSL results and getting recommendations about which games they might want to watch at a later time. The Team Liquid Player Database usually links to a Live Report as well. And of course, there are those who don't give a damn.
Q: "But I knew all that, why did you make this thread?" Because I'm trying to go an additional mile in giving LR threads some additional content. I've read Q&A-s/hype threads/bashings that get me really hyped for the matches, and hype is what the community might need in these uncertain times.
That didn't answer my question, mustaju.
Well, I'm fairly new to the community and fairly unaware of a lot of the histories of a lot of the players and teams. I know that there are tons of people out there who already contributed, namely Ryo and Lightwip, moopie, Ideas, and of course Carnivorous Sheep and swanized. The additional content I was able to produce with them was entertaining and some of it even started later, private discussions. I'd like to create more of it, and that's why I created a thread where selfappointed, but also knowledgable fans of teams/players could offer Live Report thread makers a helping hand. We have plenty of new people drawn in by SC2, and to them(and almost certainly me as well), I imagine, these segments are of great help. Please, contribute! Feedback is also appreciated.
It is to be presumed that the requests should be sent with a lot of time to spare, especially since time zones delay communication and not everyone lurks on Team Liquid. You can be part of several groups, but people depend on at least some sort of experience or research, so don't overdo it. Thirdly, please don't spam PM-s to the people who decide to help.
Finally, Thank you! The entire BW community has enriched my entire year I spent here. I hope I can do my part to contribute as well. (special thanks to the streamers and uploaders!)
Edit: Thanks to all who have joined this initiative!
There's also a group of people that think that Live report threads are only an excuse to up the post count.
But I like this idea of giving more content to Live report threads very much, and if I was enough knowledgeable about the teams and the players, I would help.
Btw, you're doing a really good job with Live report threads. Keep up the good work.
I'd also like to add that few years ago, when Livestreams were scarce, reading the Live report threads was so much fun. Even today, they capture little moments that is the very soul of Teamliquid. Reading through all the reactions and feelings of people while watching their favorite players play is really an awesome experience. I'm also happy that there isn't much fighting and pointless discussion going on in Live report threads (speaking of BW Live report threads of course). And I just hope the Live threads continue to be as awesome as they are, because sometimes they're as much fun as actually watching the games live.
my internet dies halfway through the month(almost every month) and I sit at TL looking at LR threads and debating weather I should flame konadora for not streaming games which are not SKT games.LR threads give the same excitement as watching the stream and a good LR thread(like yours mustaju <3) just narrows the gap even more.
also I would like to help spreading all of my knowledge(not an expert,but I know shit okay?) and fanboyism(LOTS OF IT,ALL OF IT!!!) for KT.
On December 15 2010 01:30 BLinD-RawR wrote: my internet dies halfway through the month(almost every month) and I sit at TL looking at LR threads and debating weather I should flame konadora for not streaming games which are not SKT games.LR threads give the same excitement as watching the stream and a good LR thread(like yours mustaju <3) just narrows the gap even more.
also I would like to help spreading all of my knowledge(not an expert,but I know shit okay?) and fanboyism(LOTS OF IT,ALL OF IT!!!) for KT.
Thanks, BlinD-RawR. Also just for confirmation, multiple fans of a single team would be best, since even the most zealous fan can be busy. Don't be afraid to list yourself as a fan of a team that has already been picked.
Well I've actually been here for only 2 years, but I'd be happy to throw that into the mixing pot in addition everything I know about the scene before that that I've absorbed in my time here.
So yes, I'm in for SKT. Now if I only knew what you wanted...
On December 15 2010 01:22 2Pacalypse- wrote: I'd also like to add that few years ago, when Livestreams were scarce, reading the Live report threads was so much fun. Even today, they capture little moments that is the very soul of Teamliquid. Reading through all the reactions and feelings of people while watching their favorite players play is really an awesome experience. I'm also happy that there isn't much fighting and pointless discussion going on in Live report threads (speaking of BW Live report threads of course). And I just hope the Live threads continue to be as awesome as they are, because sometimes they're as much fun as actually watching the games live.
QFT, most of the times I read the LR even when I'm watching VODs, most fellow TL'ers have more insight of the game than I do.
On December 15 2010 02:02 alffla wrote: i dont get what youre' trying to do o_o
Don't know how to express it more clearly than I already did. But I'll try again anyway. In addition to the regular pieces of LR threads (Lineups, results, recommended games), there have been other sections, such as Q&A-s, Players Spotlights, Fanboy predictions (and the OP's predictions, of course), all aimed at giving more content to those who enjoy reading it, and who want to get a bit more out of the match. A simple Q&A can get people more hyped or their own thinking process going while they enjoy the match. However, I myself have felt rather incapable of speaking for other teams, thus I invited other fans to give their own opinions/predictions/write something about their team. This thread was made for me (and for the other LR thread makers) to be able to contact fans who'd like to participate in adding additional content to the LR threads.
I think its a little too late for doing this, a lot of ppl moved away to SC2. Having that said, even if you indeed manage to improve the content of the LR threads, it wont bring ppl back just because there is more hype. I did a ton of OPs in the past, VIP predictions, interviews, gfx the lot. I would do it again but on special occasions - for now I think the only and most important thing for the OPs is they to be presented in a clean, crisp, easy to comprehend way
Reading over LR threads on epics games is always fun. Reading over LR threads on completely fail games is more fun, love LR threads for that reason, I can see what other people thought even on a game I couldn't watch live.
On December 15 2010 02:20 disciple wrote: I think its a little too late for doing this, a lot of ppl moved away to SC2. Having that said, even if you indeed manage to improve the content of the LR threads, it wont bring ppl back just because there is more hype. I did a ton of OPs in the past, VIP predictions, interviews, gfx the lot. I would do it again but on special occasions - for now I think the only and most important thing for the OPs is they to be presented in a clean, crisp, easy to comprehend way
I disagree with the first thing you said there, I find the LR theads strengthens the community loyal BW followers, I think it's not so much about trying to bring people back but to make those who still follow BW come closer together. I recognise a lot of the names of people who post on LR Threads and know who's got great insight and who's comments I respect. I used never follow them before but now I'd be F5ing away while watching the game. I really do think it brings the what is now fairly small BW community together.
Fanboyism and hype for the win! If you are a fan of a team, dont ever be shy to show it to the world!
That said, live report threads (and people who make them) are awesome! It's so much fun reading the comments of other TL people during matches especially when a player makes nice plays or fails hard. Not being able to watch streams while at work sucks but LR threads make me feel like I'm watching the games myself. Huge props to people who continue to exert effort in making these threads because it keeps BW spirit alive in TL. My love goes to all of you people.
This is an interesting initiative, but if I pegged myself down as a fan, I feel like I'd actually have to be serious. I have to admit that when I put some crazy-ass predictions in the OP and a part of them comes true, I get this nice feeling. On the other hand, these predictions don't exactly take notice of who is in what form at the exact moment, so they're pretty misleading a lot of the time. Apply the same logic for any pre-game hype, and there you go
On December 15 2010 02:20 disciple wrote: I think its a little too late for doing this, a lot of ppl moved away to SC2. Having that said, even if you indeed manage to improve the content of the LR threads, it wont bring ppl back just because there is more hype. I did a ton of OPs in the past, VIP predictions, interviews, gfx the lot. I would do it again but on special occasions - for now I think the only and most important thing for the OPs is they to be presented in a clean, crisp, easy to comprehend way
That's a very negative way to look at things.
And I don't think that original poster is on some kind of crusade to bring people back from SC2. I think the main point of this initiative is to make things more enjoyable for people who stayed, as well for the new people who find the BW scene interesting.
And I seriously don't understand what you meant with your "it's a little too late" remark.
On December 15 2010 02:20 disciple wrote: I think its a little too late for doing this, a lot of ppl moved away to SC2. Having that said, even if you indeed manage to improve the content of the LR threads, it wont bring ppl back just because there is more hype. I did a ton of OPs in the past, VIP predictions, interviews, gfx the lot. I would do it again but on special occasions - for now I think the only and most important thing for the OPs is they to be presented in a clean, crisp, easy to comprehend way
I might be late, but there's some new interest in the game, and some that remains from a while back. I'm also not expecting to bring people back, or to write a long essay before every single game.
But the things I've done till now seem to be appreciated by the community that still remains, and it doesn't take a lot of effort, except for finding willing people. If I can do that, and want to do that, why wouldn't I?
On December 15 2010 02:20 disciple wrote: I think its a little too late for doing this, a lot of ppl moved away to SC2. Having that said, even if you indeed manage to improve the content of the LR threads, it wont bring ppl back just because there is more hype. I did a ton of OPs in the past, VIP predictions, interviews, gfx the lot. I would do it again but on special occasions - for now I think the only and most important thing for the OPs is they to be presented in a clean, crisp, easy to comprehend way
I understand where you're coming from, and agree that the OP should have as little clutter as possible. However making a second post with the interviews/polls/etc would not detract from the quality of the OP.
it wont be worth the effort. prominent TLers are harder to get these days cause trust me on this 90% of them moved completely to SC2 and are not watching PL at all. as for teh predictions there must be some back story to go with them, for example kona did a streak of ridiculous prediction and none of them were right, so the meme about the kona's curse was born.
I dont want to discourage you in anyway, please go ahead , I just think the effort is too big for the effect you are going to achieve. but feel motivated to prove me wrong
it wont be worth the effort. prominent TLers are harder to get these days cause trust me on this 90% of them moved completely to SC2 and are not watching PL at all. as for teh predictions there must be some back story to go with them, for example kona did a streak of ridiculous prediction and none of them were right, so the meme about the kona's curse was born.
I respect you very much diciple but I don't think the number 90% is correct at all. I have 4 friends who started to watch pro BW since 2008 so by your logic among the 5 of us, at least 4 would have moved to SC2 but in reality no one changed to SC2 and we all still follow BW. We did watch some SC2 matches but being used to the level of BW it is difficult to accept the current level of SC2 so we switched back.
Yeah, I don't know why we're discussing about SC2 at all in this thread, but majority of SC2 players (and thus majority of new Teamliquid members) are in fact people who haven't played or followed BW before. So there's no need to be so pessimistic about it.
LR are amazing; it just feels great when you see thread over >1000, filled with frequent post explosions whenever epic events occur. Despite, it just makes some shit much more hilarious. Remember The Group of Life?
Specifically regarding improvement of LR thread, I definitely agree with initiative. Why not if there are those who are willing to do it?
Good on ya Mustaju! I applaud your initiative, and motivation to try and make LR threads as good as they can be.
As a newer TL member I rely on the LR threads to educate me about BW, and in particular, the finer points that you would otherwise miss. It's a great little community, and I enjoy having a laugh with other people who are watching at stupid hours of the night.
Just a reminder to all those contributing to the BW scene - the LR thread op's, the streamers, and the TL writers - your efforts are much appreciated. Much <3
Sign me up. I think you may know which team I support.
LR threads are badass. They let you hear what people think were the reasons behind games' outcomes and players' strategic decisions. They also give you feedback when you voice your own ideas on these subjects. It's a place to post, share your feelings, when you're sitting alone in your apartment and are so fired up you're fistpumping and yelling (also those times where you want to cry). Lately, LR threads have also been nice for reading the live reporting. It's infrequent, but sometimes there isn't a stream link on TL. In those situations, we go back to the pre-stream list days of f5ing like crazy people and reading voraciously.
Props on handling the LR threads so regularly mustaju. You've increased the standard.
I have been wanting to do a detailed LR OP early and make it awesome, but I'm afraid that I'll forget about it, or sleep through the match or something . That said, I would be glad to help out with something if you need it. I'm an SKT fan, but fairly knowledgeable for other teams as well.
it wont be worth the effort. prominent TLers are harder to get these days cause trust me on this 90% of them moved completely to SC2 and are not watching PL at all. as for teh predictions there must be some back story to go with them, for example kona did a streak of ridiculous prediction and none of them were right, so the meme about the kona's curse was born.
I dont want to discourage you in anyway, please go ahead , I just think the effort is too big for the effect you are going to achieve. but feel motivated to prove me wrong
Hmm, I *suppose* this part is true... but there are still some holding the fort! like... kona... sometimes... and a lot of admins still watch BW sometimes... ahhh...
I've helped with this before, and I'd love to help more. Being a fairly new member, I don't really know exactly how much I can contribute, but I'd love to help, especially with SKT and Khan.
On December 15 2010 02:20 disciple wrote: I think its a little too late for doing this, a lot of ppl moved away to SC2.
If BW doesn't end via injunction, then SC2 will actually be a great benefit for us. If people see the merit in BW, as a lot of them certainly will, then BW can grow here, even if SC2 eventually dies.
I'd like to say put me under woongjin, because I'm a huge woongjin fan, but I doubt I know any more facts about them than the average TLer or stuff you will find on TLPD, so it's best if you don't haha. I like the idea though.
it wont be worth the effort. prominent TLers are harder to get these days cause trust me on this 90% of them moved completely to SC2 and are not watching PL at all. as for teh predictions there must be some back story to go with them, for example kona did a streak of ridiculous prediction and none of them were right, so the meme about the kona's curse was born.
I dont want to discourage you in anyway, please go ahead , I just think the effort is too big for the effect you are going to achieve. but feel motivated to prove me wrong
On December 17 2010 13:11 hacklebeast wrote: I have been wanting to do a detailed LR OP early and make it awesome, but I'm afraid that I'll forget about it, or sleep through the match or something . That said, I would be glad to help out with something if you need it. I'm an SKT fan, but fairly knowledgeable for other teams as well.
Which is your second favorite team then? Maybe I can put you down under a different team as well?
On December 17 2010 16:27 Grobyc wrote: I'd like to say put me under woongjin, because I'm a huge woongjin fan, but I doubt I know any more facts about them than the average TLer or stuff you will find on TLPD, so it's best if you don't haha. I like the idea though.
Don't forget, we have a lot of new interest as well. I myself became interested only a year ago and find myself answering certain questions. I think you might be of great help, if I'm allowed to put you down.
On December 17 2010 13:11 hacklebeast wrote: I have been wanting to do a detailed LR OP early and make it awesome, but I'm afraid that I'll forget about it, or sleep through the match or something . That said, I would be glad to help out with something if you need it. I'm an SKT fan, but fairly knowledgeable for other teams as well.
Which is your second favorite team then? Maybe I can put you down under a different team as well?
I really like Jangbi + hiya + zero, so I tend to root for kan + oz + stars. Not sure which team I like most, but I can say it is Khan because Khan dosent have any suporters yet.
it wont be worth the effort. prominent TLers are harder to get these days cause trust me on this 90% of them moved completely to SC2 and are not watching PL at all. as for teh predictions there must be some back story to go with them, for example kona did a streak of ridiculous prediction and none of them were right, so the meme about the kona's curse was born.
I dont want to discourage you in anyway, please go ahead , I just think the effort is too big for the effect you are going to achieve. but feel motivated to prove me wrong
On December 17 2010 20:27 mustaju wrote: It's interesting that only people with SKT icons have been willing to answer KHAN related questions. :D We need more ACE and Hite love, people!
I could give a short opinion on Khan if asked for, but I don't have super knowledge like the others here. I'm just full of (gay) love for Stork <333 if I was Caucasian and I went to Korea I'd totally be like our hero Daniel.
DES and Fomos sometimes has preview/anticipation-articles on certain SPL matches (like SKT vs KT, which is considered one of the main rivalries) so maybe you can ask the translators (myself included, if Khan is involved) for a quick one before the match begins.
Hmm maybe I should hop on this with my HITE ENTUS or CJ Sparkyz! #1 TEAM. So pretty much all I gonna do is do live reports of every game that my team plays??
On December 17 2010 22:54 Tekin wrote: Hmm maybe I should hop on this with my HITE ENTUS or CJ Sparkyz! #1 TEAM. So pretty much all I gonna do is do live reports of every game that my team plays??
That's not the meaning of this thread. The fan list is for LR thread makers (like myself) to have someone they can contact in case they want to do Q&A-s or Players spotlights. So if you sign up, you'd be asked to answer questions of the organizer. For examples, see MBCGame HERO vs. STX for a player spotlight, or this rounds SKT vs. STX for a fan Q&A. Are you still interested?
On December 17 2010 22:54 Tekin wrote: Hmm maybe I should hop on this with my HITE ENTUS or CJ Sparkyz! #1 TEAM. So pretty much all I gonna do is do live reports of every game that my team plays??
That's not the meaning of this thread. The fan list is for LR thread makers (like myself) to have someone they can contact in case they want to do Q&A-s or Players spotlights. So if you sign up, you'd be asked to answer questions of the organizer. For examples, see MBCGame HERO vs. STX for a player spotlight, or this rounds SKT vs. STX for a fan Q&A. Are you still interested?
ill see about it after the Hite vs STX match on how you guys do the Q&A. I get the player spotlight
Bumping this in order to fill a spot for every team for the start of Round 5! We still need an Air Force ACE representative, and I'd like to have some non-staff fans for WeMade FOX and unique fans for KHAN for potential KHAN SKT interviews.
Also, a larger selection is very beneficial, in case work/school/private life gets in the way for the original participators, so fans of every kind, represent!
On April 16 2011 05:42 Kipsate wrote: uh, what is needed to fill such a position?I have followed Brood War for some time now but only activly got into it like a year ago.
However I am always free if you need someone to bash Hydra, because that guy........needs bashing.
Then again I am a Hwaseung fan so I doubt that you could make use of me even if you wanted to.(that came out wrong)
A willingness to answer questions that are asked, that's all. I myself only follow BW for about a year now, and I'm rather sketchy on a lot of the details. Extensive knowledge or rabid fanboyism improve your chances to get interviewed by me, but since this is for anyone making LR thread related extra content, other qualities might be more important for other interviewers.
EPT
I'd like to create more of it, and that's why I created a thread where selfappointed, but also knowledgable fans of teams/players could offer Live Report thread makers a helping hand. We have plenty of new people drawn in by SC2, and to them(and almost certainly me as well), I imagine, these segments are of great help. Please, contribute! Feedback is also appreciated. 
