EPTLet the fun begin. Activision Blizzard suing MBC - Page 21
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Redmark
Canada2129 Posts
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tommya
Canada52 Posts
On October 24 2010 05:49 Vedic wrote: It's not a "debate" - you're asking about things that have been discussed in great detail already, and making assumptions about things that have already been discussed/dismissed. You agree to the terms set by Blizzard in order to install the game. One of those terms is specifically that you do not OWN the game, or it's content - you are licensing it. You require a license in order to use it for anything but personal use. While your example is absolutely terrible, if "Great Britain" had a product with a license agreement, and you broke that agreement, you would be on the business end of an international lawsuit. Your MBC harassment lawsuit question points to either a lack of knowledge of the situation, law in general, or that you're trolling. I'm going to assume a troll, but in case you aren't, you really need to READ these threads before you post. Clearly, you are not interested in discussing the topic. If that is, then why do you continue to check the thread? You dodged all of my points and explained the concept of licensing, something I assure you I know in detail. You insulted the quality of my example, completely misinterpreted it, and then proceeded to accuse me of trolling. I do not know a whole lot of what is going on with MBC/OGN/Gretech/Blizzard, and I came into this thread to find out more and I even proposed my theory on what is going to happen in the end. I feel it is you who is trolling and harassing a user, and I am no longer interested in debating with you. On October 24 2010 05:55 Redmark wrote: I just have one question: are Koreans bothered at all by these implications in these threads that their country is hopelessly corrupt/old-fashioned/stupid/insane? People keep saying things like 'it's SK can't they just kick them out', and it seems insulting to both sides (as well as to an entire country). Is there some kind of reason why South Korea can't deny foreign companies access to their country with the intent of crippling broadcasting studios and making a profit off of it? | ||
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
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rredtooth
5461 Posts
On October 24 2010 06:03 e4e5nf3 wrote: that's not what's happening here... they would gladly have kept BW alive had kespa not been retarded. blizzard made a product, that product got extremely popular, they suddenly wanted credit and compensation (which makes perfect sense), kespa is greedy and says 'fuck you'.I dont think this is a wise idea for Blizzard. They obviously want the current BW audience to transfer over to SC2, but by doing it this way they are just pissing off the people. Much better just to have a gradual, natural shift from one game to the other, even if it takes years. honestly, in a logical non-proleague-fanboy sense, blizzard has the right to do this. | ||
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iosef
Israel194 Posts
Next, no LAN in Starcraft II. Seriously, what the fuck? I generally play more LAN multiplayer than online with most games. Way to fuck people like me over, blizz. And now blizzard is suing one of the companies that turned a game - their game - into the world's first and only true e-sports phenomenon? What the FUCK? At first one could maybe have attributed some weird things to executive meddling from higher ups brought in by Activision. That's not any kind of adequate explanation for all of this. I seriously think all the success and $$$ from WoW has brewed up some kind of concoction over at Activision Blizzard, and it's ugly. I still have some nostalgia for Warcraft: Orcs & Humans, but this new company isn't something I even recognize. /impotent nerdrage | ||
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
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maybenexttime
Poland5678 Posts
On October 24 2010 06:31 redtooth wrote: that's not what's happening here... they would gladly have kept BW alive had kespa not been retarded. blizzard made a product, that product got extremely popular, they suddenly wanted credit and compensation (which makes perfect sense), kespa is greedy and says 'fuck you'. honestly, in a logical non-proleague-fanboy sense, blizzard has the right to do this. To ask for royalties? Yes. To ask for the ownership of everything KeSPA puts a lot more money into than blizzard into both BW and sc2 (if not all their games combined)? Hell no... | ||
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zenMaster
Canada761 Posts
On October 24 2010 06:31 redtooth wrote: that's not what's happening here... they would gladly have kept BW alive had kespa not been retarded. blizzard made a product, that product got extremely popular, they suddenly wanted credit and compensation (which makes perfect sense), kespa is greedy and says 'fuck you'. honestly, in a logical non-proleague-fanboy sense, blizzard has the right to do this. Your argument against Kespa is so full of holes it makes me want to shoot a baby in the face. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
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Meriones
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User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
if they lose, i hope they ban sc2 tournaments through some legislation out of spite fuck blizzard, im glad i will continue to boycott their product | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 24 2010 07:30 OpticalShot wrote: Makes me even more proud for not purchasing SC2 yet (been playing on a bunch of guest passes lol). Fuck you blizzard. If you trash e-sports in Korea, I will not buy SC2 and D3 and all the other fuckshit you decide to release. I eagerly await the NA release of Cabal II. tbh I highly doubt they care if they lose you as a customer its you missing out not them. Either way sucks it had to go to this hope it all works out in the end.... | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
Seriously though, I hope MBC wins the case, otherwise this will be bad news for all of the BW scene in Korea >.< | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
I'm so disapointed | ||
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On October 24 2010 06:03 e4e5nf3 wrote: I dont think this is a wise idea for Blizzard. They obviously want the current BW audience to transfer over to SC2, but by doing it this way they are just pissing off the people. Much better just to have a gradual, natural shift from one game to the other, even if it takes years. if they just had made starcraft 2 the game it should have been, that process would be way faster and 'natural' | ||
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prototype.
Canada4215 Posts
On October 24 2010 07:47 schaf wrote: if they just had made starcraft 2 the game it should have been, that process would be way faster and 'natural' This whole situation is so dumb. There's no reason for both games not to coexist in the esports scene. Isn't blizzard the only one that sees this as a problem? In the end, it really is all about money for activision/blizzard. | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On October 24 2010 06:53 Meriones wrote: Let's not forget that SC2 is actually not a good game and people only play it or say it's good because they have to (Idra, Artosis, Day9). 1) I consider SC2 quite good considering expectations and how long it's being out. Watching the GSL really reminded me of the Gilette OSL back in the days when Julyzerg munched through most of the terrans with ease. But in the end, it's certainly a matter of opinion. 2) I partly agree with you about Artosis doing this for the money. Although he seems to get more into it with every game they cast. But accusing Idra (who made very little buck of SC2) and especially Day[9] who has only sporadic SC2 casting jobs and little revenue for his stream is really rude. These 2 put everything they are in this and if you would have ever seen Idra steaming out he booth after a lost game, you would surely know that. Let me reverse your argument to make you see how it works out for you: "Let's not forget that KESPA isn't actually after the good of the sport but rather to make the most buck out of it." Surely you would say that's absurd, and it is considering the countless anonymous faces helping KESPA putting up a great show. But your argument is nearly identical ... Of course SC2 needs the kick-start by the GSL, but the lawsuit is not to sacrifice BW for SC2. | ||
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Meriones
43 Posts
SC2 is a huge cheesefest with little micro, no lan latency and automated macro. It is Idra's worst nightmare as a SC BW player. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
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