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On August 21 2011 16:24 mustaju wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:15 Ryo wrote:On August 21 2011 16:01 mustaju wrote:
I honestly approved of this thread back then, and I approve of this thread now. What this thread did was to give fans hope, cheer them up after defeats, make them even happier after victories, and give them a sense of unison. That said, SKT fans along with many others went too far and deserve some of their obnoxiousness rubbed back in, but the gentlemanly thing to do would be to act courteously even if they don't deserve it, maybe they can learn something from the experience.
Or maybe not, but at least it would be the mature thing to do. hope you're feeling better about the STX drama. If it's any consolation to STX fans (and SKT fans), STX beat KT in the SF Proleague Final. And what an awesome final it was too. Well, not feeling much better about that. We had a good run in the STX masters though, that was nice. Can you tell me whether it's possible to watch the SF finals somewhere? I'd love to see those guys win.
First 5 VODs:
http://www.ongamenet.com/vod/vodMain.ogn?VodType=Game
Watch closely and you will see STX BW and later on KT BW players arrive to support their teams.
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On August 21 2011 16:28 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 16:24 mustaju wrote:On August 21 2011 16:15 Ryo wrote:On August 21 2011 16:01 mustaju wrote:
I honestly approved of this thread back then, and I approve of this thread now. What this thread did was to give fans hope, cheer them up after defeats, make them even happier after victories, and give them a sense of unison. That said, SKT fans along with many others went too far and deserve some of their obnoxiousness rubbed back in, but the gentlemanly thing to do would be to act courteously even if they don't deserve it, maybe they can learn something from the experience.
Or maybe not, but at least it would be the mature thing to do. hope you're feeling better about the STX drama. If it's any consolation to STX fans (and SKT fans), STX beat KT in the SF Proleague Final. And what an awesome final it was too. Well, not feeling much better about that. We had a good run in the STX masters though, that was nice. Can you tell me whether it's possible to watch the SF finals somewhere? I'd love to see those guys win. First 5 VODs: http://www.ongamenet.com/vod/vodMain.ogn?VodType=GameWatch closely and you will see STX BW and later on KT BW players arrive to support their teams.
I will, thanks. Keep strong in your MBC support, all of TL is behind you.
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On August 20 2011 21:08 Lightwip wrote:Wrong. We won PL, KT just won the Playoffs.
lmao
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On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all  + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth...
I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game.
I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate.
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On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate.
You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me .
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On August 21 2011 19:50 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me .
If you really think about it, some of these KT fans are only Flash supporters, but I know of at least a few KT fans that are team fans; TwoToneTerran and BLinD-RawR being foremost among them. He's just an example in the vein of the first type of KT fan. I'm sure there are SKT fans who are of the second type.
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On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate.
uhhh, didnt it just happen...again?
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On August 21 2011 19:50 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me .
He never called himself a true fan for a team?
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On August 21 2011 21:06 Carefree wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:50 Sawamura wrote:On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me . He never called himself a true fan for a team?
yea, this is sadly worse than sc2 forums. Miss the point completely, make up a statement I never said and try to offend me because of it. Well done.
Anyway I don't see why is it so bad to be fan of a certain player rather than fan of a team. I believe most of the teams originaly got their fanbase because of players who play for them, not the other way around.
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On August 21 2011 21:51 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 21:06 Carefree wrote:On August 21 2011 19:50 Sawamura wrote:On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:
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Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me . He never called himself a true fan for a team? yea, this is sadly worse than sc2 forums. Miss the point completely, make up a statement I never said and try to offend me because of it. Well done. Anyway I don't see why is it so bad to be fan of a certain player rather than fan of a team. I believe most of the teams originaly got their fanbase because of players who play for them, not the other way around.
I am a FlaSh fan, so I became a KT fan obviously so I can agree with your point.
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I really wanted to see bisu vs flash, even though im more of a flash fan then bisu, hes winning too much even with his wrist injury, so imagine after he recovers 100%  ,
each time bisu loses a game, he genuinely looked surprised he lost the game, woulda been great way to end the finals
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On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate.
well, the thing is that the majority of TL is composed of people with SKT tags but who are mostly only Bisu fans and has shown the most arrogance and bias throughout the years. the majority of the remaining TLers, though supportive of their own teams, thus come together when bashing SKT
PS. KT owned your team twice
PSS. there was some interview before with kingdom and he said in his SKT times, it was Best who pioneered all the protoss strategies and build orders, whilst Bisu was only the one who carried them out, thus somewhat making Bisu to Best alike a puppet not unlike Fantasy to oov, and yes including PvZ.
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On August 21 2011 22:58 saltywet wrote: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. well, the thing is that the majority of TL is composed of people with SKT tags but who are mostly only Bisu fans and has shown the most arrogance and bias throughout the years. the majority of the remaining TLers, though supportive of their own teams, thus come together when bashing SKT PS. KT owned your team twice PSS. there was some interview before with kingdom and he said in his SKT times, it was Best who pioneered all the protoss strategies and build orders, whilst Bisu was only the one who carried them out, thus somewhat making Bisu to Best alike a puppet not unlike Fantasy to oov, and yes including PvZ.
saying bisu is best's puppet is a bit of an overstatement. let's not forget that the "revolutionary bisu build" was used when bisu was in MBC. if anything, bisu is coach park's puppet. best most likely tweaked the bisu build to incorporate the +1 speedlot timing against hydras, or any other variation, if what you say is true. your puppet analogy is weak in best's/bisu's case because while one player may have had influence over the other, both players have shown to execute similar strategies in broadcast games. this is different from fantasy's/oov's case, where one person plays while the other is observing from the bench. Best and bisu are teammates, so it's no wonder that their play styles feed off each other--I've noticed Bisu's PvP/PvT macro has improved since moving to SKT. As for best's PvZ, I haven't been paying much attention haha. all i know is that his PvZ is mediocre/borderline bad.
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On August 21 2011 21:51 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 21:06 Carefree wrote:On August 21 2011 19:50 Sawamura wrote:On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:
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Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me . He never called himself a true fan for a team? yea, this is sadly worse than sc2 forums. Miss the point completely, make up a statement I never said and try to offend me because of it. Well done.
wow, i can't believe you're martyring, specially being you the only one doing assumptions about others in the first place. i guess this comes to prove that i was right when i called (most) bisu fanboys obnoxious...
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Pretty sure every Flash hater jumped on Flash's ballz last time he dropped out of an individual league (both, for that matter). Maybe we should call them insecure children as well.
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On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. Trust me, we would get more shit thrown at us than Dane Cook does a day if the result happens the other way around. The KT fan base is still smaller comparing to SKT's. If you don't want to see your team bashed, don't surf TL for at least a week after the final.
On August 22 2011 00:26 bearbuddy wrote:
Pretty sure every Flash hater jumped on Flash's ballz last time he dropped out of an individual league (both, for that matter). Maybe we should call them insecure children as well. Yeah, he got more shit and flame than the whole collective team of SKT of today back when it happened.
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On August 21 2011 23:50 intoyourrainbOW wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 22:58 saltywet wrote: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. well, the thing is that the majority of TL is composed of people with SKT tags but who are mostly only Bisu fans and has shown the most arrogance and bias throughout the years. the majority of the remaining TLers, though supportive of their own teams, thus come together when bashing SKT PS. KT owned your team twice PSS. there was some interview before with kingdom and he said in his SKT times, it was Best who pioneered all the protoss strategies and build orders, whilst Bisu was only the one who carried them out, thus somewhat making Bisu to Best alike a puppet not unlike Fantasy to oov, and yes including PvZ. saying bisu is best's puppet is a bit of an overstatement. let's not forget that the "revolutionary bisu build" was used when bisu was in MBC. if anything, bisu is coach park's puppet. best most likely tweaked the bisu build to incorporate the +1 speedlot timing against hydras, or any other variation, if what you say is true. your puppet analogy is weak in best's/bisu's case because while one player may have had influence over the other, both players have shown to execute similar strategies in broadcast games. this is different from fantasy's/oov's case, where one person plays while the other is observing from the bench. Best and bisu are teammates, so it's no wonder that their play styles feed off each other--I've noticed Bisu's PvP/PvT macro has improved since moving to SKT. As for best's PvZ, I haven't been paying much attention haha. all i know is that his PvZ is mediocre/borderline bad.
I was about to say something like this when I read his post, but nice to see someone else doing so.
Bisu was definitely the innovator for Protoss during his MBC days.
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Well, a Bisu fan gushing over his player + an abrasive KT fan is definitely NOT a good combination. If SKT wins STX Masters (as usual), then at least they have 2 team golds this cycle; strangely, both for WL format games.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
On August 21 2011 20:32 Ciryandor wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 19:50 Sawamura wrote:On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. You call that being a true fan for your team while you only root for one player ? you disgust me . If you really think about it, some of these KT fans are only Flash supporters, but I know of at least a few KT fans that are team fans; TwoToneTerran and BLinD-RawR being foremost among them. He's just an example in the vein of the first type of KT fan. I'm sure there are SKT fans who are of the second type.
I like that I'm now compared to TTT a lot these days.
I'm movin' up in the world bros.
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On August 22 2011 00:42 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 23:50 intoyourrainbOW wrote:On August 21 2011 22:58 saltywet wrote: + Show Spoiler +On August 21 2011 19:38 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 15:03 djbhINDI wrote:On August 21 2011 03:39 ondik wrote:On August 21 2011 00:45 jlim wrote:On August 21 2011 00:24 saltywet wrote:On August 21 2011 00:08 DyEnasTy wrote:On August 20 2011 23:54 Milkis wrote:On August 20 2011 23:46 IntoTheEmo wrote:
You guys are pretty harsh on SKT, either side coulda won on any given day.
Back when the regular season ended I would have placed my money on SKT or CJ winning it.
PS - don't mind the KT tag ^^ Considering how SKT fans acted like they had it for the longest time, I think they deserve all the salt that gets sprinkled on their wounds. I love you +1 i think KT went from being my second least favorite team to my third favorite just by virtue of raping SKT in finals, though im sad for dohjaewoook same here good job on being obnoxious, skt fans (and specially bisu fans) Must be sad when you find the only joy in hating other team because your team brings you no joy at all + Show Spoiler + Must be sad when you have to do your fighting on the forums because your team cant do its job in the booth... I'm not fighting anyone, I'm not even that disappointed by the final result because all my sc life I've been Bisu fan rather than a team fan. And Bisu shew incredibly great defense and multitasking in his game. I'm just amused by the number of KT fans coming here (even though many teams have thread like this) and bashing after their win. It reminds me of those insecure kids, who beat you in a sport/game and then have to talk about it and rub it in your face for hours because they know this may not happen again. We're confident enough to know we will make it to finals again next season. And we will win, no matter who we face. We don't need to hate. well, the thing is that the majority of TL is composed of people with SKT tags but who are mostly only Bisu fans and has shown the most arrogance and bias throughout the years. the majority of the remaining TLers, though supportive of their own teams, thus come together when bashing SKT PS. KT owned your team twice PSS. there was some interview before with kingdom and he said in his SKT times, it was Best who pioneered all the protoss strategies and build orders, whilst Bisu was only the one who carried them out, thus somewhat making Bisu to Best alike a puppet not unlike Fantasy to oov, and yes including PvZ. saying bisu is best's puppet is a bit of an overstatement. let's not forget that the "revolutionary bisu build" was used when bisu was in MBC. if anything, bisu is coach park's puppet. best most likely tweaked the bisu build to incorporate the +1 speedlot timing against hydras, or any other variation, if what you say is true. your puppet analogy is weak in best's/bisu's case because while one player may have had influence over the other, both players have shown to execute similar strategies in broadcast games. this is different from fantasy's/oov's case, where one person plays while the other is observing from the bench. Best and bisu are teammates, so it's no wonder that their play styles feed off each other--I've noticed Bisu's PvP/PvT macro has improved since moving to SKT. As for best's PvZ, I haven't been paying much attention haha. all i know is that his PvZ is mediocre/borderline bad. I was about to say something like this when I read his post, but nice to see someone else doing so. Bisu was definitely the innovator for Protoss during his MBC days.
Lol. pusan invented the " revolutionary bisu build". according to kingdom, best was the innovator for PvZ when bisu was in SKT.
Bisu gets all the credit for executing the builds to near perfection
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