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Snuggles
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1865 Posts
August 20 2010 17:42 GMT
#41
I started following the starcraft proscene and played Zerg because of savior. I feel so fucking mad and sad at the same time whenever I get reminded of what they did.

Going to prison for savior is going to be nuts..... especially after reading the 2 year prison thread....
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 20 2010 17:43 GMT
#42
On August 20 2010 23:43 rotinegg wrote:
Savior and Justin are scumbags, at least hwasin apologized publicly (and it actually sounded sincere) before he went on trial


Um, if I remember correctly it came off as the complete opposite to me.

They're all scumbags no matter how you slice it.

Hopefully they grow from it.
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 18:05:24
August 20 2010 18:03 GMT
#43
On August 21 2010 02:43 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 23:43 rotinegg wrote:
Savior and Justin are scumbags, at least hwasin apologized publicly (and it actually sounded sincere) before he went on trial


Um, if I remember correctly it came off as the complete opposite to me.

They're all scumbags no matter how you slice it.

Hopefully they grow from it.

well yea, my b, my post was specifically directed at savior and justin's late "apology" and how they are saying they were "coerced" by others to do it. Some other gamers like hwasin apologized to the public before they were officially indicted iirc, but I may be wrong. But ur right theyre all scumbags however you look at it.
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Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
August 20 2010 18:07 GMT
#44
On August 21 2010 02:42 Snuggles wrote:
Going to prison for savior is going to be nuts..... especially after reading the 2 year prison thread....


hahahahaha. =DD I wonder if the korea prisons is anything like the american ones though. But poor savior anyway. ^_^
Empires are not brought down by outside forces - they are destroyed by weaknesses from within
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
August 20 2010 18:12 GMT
#45
This is what the prosecutors demand, not what will actually happen.
May the BeSt man win.
rS.Sinatra
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada785 Posts
August 20 2010 19:04 GMT
#46
/agreed 18 months please.
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Mutaahh
Profile Joined June 2007
Netherlands859 Posts
August 20 2010 19:13 GMT
#47
Are the inmates of Savior aware that he will destroy them all?
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.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 19:26:50
August 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#48
Savior deserves it. The fact that he lied, kept lying to his coach, and continued to lie even when it's exposed, CONTINUED TO LIE even when everybody else confessed, CONTINUED TO LIE to fans during trial, etc. etc. trying to minimized his role in the whole thing every step of the way, each time admitting to a little more even when we all know he went the whole 9 yards and then some.

All that insult to injury makes me sick.

Savior
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gorgoino18
Profile Joined November 2009
Korea (South)109 Posts
August 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#49
Sorry for the incorrect translation, I guess I misinterpreted the articles;;

Anyway, I think this is wht they deserve anyway, what they done have damaged and contaminated E-sports in a way that fans and other normal citizens will not look at it the same way and it has and will make almost any other progamer who is slumping hard to be a possible illegal gambler. Damn, and here I was thinkng that BW had at least a decade moreto live on
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Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 19:24:45
August 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#50
18 months is so freaking long... -_-
but then again he'll be out in less than a year probably.

this is way to harsh for illegal betting. its not like illegal betting happens less anywhere else. they were just stupid enough to get caught.

edit: People need to stop acting like e-sports is a holy grail where nothing evil happens. if you can bet on it then you can bet there will be illegal betting.
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Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 20 2010 19:26 GMT
#51
Hopefully the sentence is reduced, 18 months for MJY is definitely too harsh imo.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-20 20:03:02
August 20 2010 19:37 GMT
#52
I don't think the prevalence of illegal betting has anything to do with anything, or that some people think esports is the epitome of virtue and good manner. I would even go so far as to say that it brought esports a step closer to the real deal, legitimized it in a way. It needs its good along with the bad. I'd place bets on NBA, NCAA, just a bit of fun, part of being a fan.

It's when the illegal betting is rigged, and by trusted insiders. NBA refs making false calls, interfering with the games, changing the outcomes, that's when we got a problem. They threaten to make the whole thing pointless, cus if it's not a competition of skills, what's the point? There's no point in betting or watching. Then people walk away from it, and the whole thing falls dead on its ass.
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Ocular
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada141 Posts
August 20 2010 19:52 GMT
#53
It would be the same as shaving points in football or fixing any other sport in the states. Starcraft is an actual sport so it doesn't seem that unrealistic. It all depends on the amount of money won/lost by both parties. Although a couple years in jail may be a bit much.
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Therick
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway324 Posts
August 20 2010 22:36 GMT
#54
go.go avoided jail time it seems
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r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
August 20 2010 23:24 GMT
#55
Does anyone have any info on how the whole korean justice system work?

As in, how long is it going to take after the final trial for the players to be put into jail, if there are different penitentiary levels, are they going to risk stabbings or are they just going to spend their days reading books and excercising in white cells with plexiglass walls and no bars? Also could their jail time be reduced or does this sort of thing not exist within the korean law system?
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 20 2010 23:27 GMT
#56
Contributing to illegal gambling = jailtime. Korea takes their shit seriously, as they should.
Seeing as how most of the players involved only got fined (and their careers destroyed) as opposed to jailtime is also good, but the players responsible for pushing this like Savior and Justin deserve what they get.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 20 2010 23:31 GMT
#57
On August 20 2010 23:01 Necosarius wrote:
Yeah seems pretty harsh. Anything on Hwasin?

On August 21 2010 02:07 Milkis wrote:
It was revealed how much the fines were during this trial. For the rest of the progamers not on the front pages, they will be fined...

go.go: 5 million won + additional 6 million won
type-b: 5 million won + additional 6.5 million won
Hwasin: 5 million won + additional 6 million won
Upmagic: 3 million won + additional 3.5 million won
Luxury: 5 million won + additional 7.5 million won
Fake Yellow: 2 million won.

I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
j2choe
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada243 Posts
August 20 2010 23:34 GMT
#58
Prosecutors always cast a wide net when it comes to this thing since they (ideally) reflect the public attitude and trust. I wouldn't expect the judge will give anywhere near that harsh a final judgment.
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
August 20 2010 23:41 GMT
#59
I hope they get more than a ban from Esports and public disgrace. The way I see it, if we want people to respect E-sports and progamers, we should treat this like illegal betting in any sport.

I don't know what typical punishments for sports betting in Korea are like, but if it means going to jail, then these guys should go to jail.
Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
August 20 2010 23:46 GMT
#60
On August 21 2010 08:31 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 23:01 Necosarius wrote:
Yeah seems pretty harsh. Anything on Hwasin?

Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 02:07 Milkis wrote:
It was revealed how much the fines were during this trial. For the rest of the progamers not on the front pages, they will be fined...

go.go: 5 million won + additional 6 million won
type-b: 5 million won + additional 6.5 million won
Hwasin: 5 million won + additional 6 million won
Upmagic: 3 million won + additional 3.5 million won
Luxury: 5 million won + additional 7.5 million won
Fake Yellow: 2 million won.


Jesus Christ, type-b and go.go was in this too? A lot more players than I thought were involved. But MJY totally deserves this crap, such a slimbag.
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