EPT[News] Gretech and OGN enter into a contract - Page 2
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phosphorylation
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Disregard
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
On August 10 2010 12:32 Disregard wrote: I dont follow and keep up to date with news relating to SC2... is GSL referring to a specific Starleague for that? See http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496 For more background info on it, see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142000 | ||
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Nao
Poland166 Posts
I'm relived that the talks with Gretch bring good news for future SC:BW as well as SC2 events. Hope they will keep as much SC:BW events as possible. On August 10 2010 12:32 Disregard wrote: the info on GSL (Global Starcraft II League)I dont follow and keep up to date with news relating to SC2... is GSL referring to a specific Starleague for that? | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On August 10 2010 10:10 Zona wrote: Wow, what a surprise! (not really) Broadcasting SC2 on television would be interesting, though. Ongamenet is filled with a bunch of other shows that probably aren't as popular as BW, maybe SC2 could become more popular than at least one of them? Thanks for keeping us up to date with the latest news. We get it, you don't like SC2. :-/ On August 10 2010 12:28 phosphorylation wrote: man, fucking gretech and blizzard greed wrenching OGN, MBCgame and progamers Well, I don't know as this constitutes "greed wrenching". GOMTV was prevented from airing BW games in English as well as Korean because of the stranglehold KeSPA, OGN, and MBC had on the progame teams. This new deal just allows GOMTV to air BW, possibly in English, and finally gives OGN and MBC the right to broadcast BW legally. | ||
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moopie
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On August 10 2010 12:40 Lightwip wrote: If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us. It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On August 10 2010 12:46 moopie wrote: It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW. Why is there such a negative vibe to Blizzard making a deal to broadcast something many people love to watch? Contrary to unpopular but nonetheless disturbing belief, Koreans don't have to watch StarCraft II just because it's there. They can continue watching BW. Unless you fear that SC2 will reach such a degree of popularity that they will no longer support BW, there isn't really a problem. | ||
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manymunkies
United States184 Posts
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GTR
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also there is no way ogn/mbc will allow gsl to broadcast on their channels, live at least (times going to clash with osl/msl/pl). if it were to be on those, it would be at like 12 in the morning when nothing is on. only way live broadcasting is going to be achieved on tv is through a third cable channel like xtm. | ||
Waxangel
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moopie
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On August 10 2010 12:50 urashimakt wrote: Why is there such a negative vibe to Blizzard making a deal to broadcast something many people love to watch? Contrary to unpopular but nonetheless disturbing belief, Koreans don't have to watch StarCraft II just because it's there. They can continue watching BW. Unless you fear that SC2 will reach such a degree of popularity that they will no longer support BW, there isn't really a problem. If the agreement indeed entails that in order to continue carrying BW (OSL/MSL/SPL), OGN and MBC have to carry GSL as well then its bs. You're not talking about them doing what is best for their ratings or fans, its just a threat from blizzard that either you show what they want you to, or they take away BW. If GSL is indeed successful (which is unknown at this point), then sure they would probably want to carry it anyway for the ratings, but requiring them to provide air time (depending on the hours) for something that may not have demand as of yet is just a form of extortion. Then again this is all speculation at this point, so best leave it be. | ||
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Zona
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That's not where the post came from. There's been multitudes of good, competitive games in the decade since Brood War was released, and none of them have developed as a spectator "sport" like Brood War has. SC2 won't automatically be successful solely because it's the sequel to Brood War nor will it succeed if it's merely a good, fun game. If you're of the mindset that SC2 will automatically be a success as a spectator sport, or even further, that it will no doubt surpass Brood War in this respect, you haven't clearly examined the landscape. On August 10 2010 12:41 urashimakt wrote: Well, I don't know as this constitutes "greed wrenching". GOMTV was prevented from airing BW games in English as well as Korean because of the stranglehold KeSPA, OGN, and MBC had on the progame teams. You are stating your assumptions as if they are the actual explanation of what took place. Certain teams did not permit their players to participate in some of the GomTV tournaments. But since you're stating your take on things I might as well do the same with mine. The GomTV tournament wasn't televised in South Korea, so the value to the team sponsors was marginal. My guess is that since the GomTV tournament wouldn't be able to reach audiences the way a televised tournament would, it would not be as useful to the team sponsors in promoting their brand or products, and thus they wanted their players to focus only on televised events. Still, the situation is now entirely changed, as before GomTV was not affiliated with CJ. | ||
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don_kyuhote
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On August 10 2010 12:46 moopie wrote: It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW. Yeah, I wouldn't want it either, but it would be better than expensive concessions that would cost them lots of money. | ||
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
On August 10 2010 13:01 Zona wrote: That's not where the post came from. There's been multitudes of good, competitive games in the decade since Brood War was released, and none of them have developed as a spectator "sport" like Brood War has. SC2 won't automatically be successful solely because it's the sequel to Brood War nor will it succeed if it's merely a good, fun game. If you're of the mindset that SC2 will automatically be a success as a spectator sport, or even further, that it will no doubt surpass Brood War in this respect, you haven't clearly examined the landscape. You are stating your assumptions as if they are the actual explanation of what took place. Certain teams did not permit their players to participate in some of the GomTV tournaments. But since you're stating your take on things I might as well do the same with mine. The GomTV tournament wasn't televised in South Korea, so the value to the team sponsors was marginal. My guess is that since the GomTV tournament wouldn't be able to reach audiences the way a televised tournament would, it would not be as useful to the team sponsors in promoting their brand or products, and thus they wanted their players to focus only on televised events. Still, the situation is now entirely changed, as before GomTV was not affiliated with CJ. Sorry, the post read as though it were comparing SC2 to the likes of something along the lines of Special Force. Many of the programs aired are merely filler inbetween BW games and, as we've seen, SC2 has been more popular than those even before it went retail. I do readily admit blaming GomTV's failure on its peers is primarily speculative, but far from unlikely. On August 10 2010 15:01 Lightwip wrote: Yeah, I wouldn't want it either, but it would be better than expensive concessions that would cost them lots of money. Someone has to foot the bill to get entertainment out there, might as well be Blizzard Entertainment.  If you don't approve, don't watch. | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
nvm answered on page2 bad me  | ||
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bearbuddy
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a9arnn
United States1537 Posts
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curiousgeorge
United States73 Posts
On August 10 2010 15:38 a9arnn wrote: I'm kinda confused, so what about the MSL? Is that going to still be broadcast this month?? MBC iirc didn't want to discuss w/GOM (I read it a while ago, not sure if they changed their mind or anything). The MSL's almost done, and I don't want it to stop part way through Yeah, I'm curious about that, as well. It seems like it could just add more pressure on MBC to capitulate to Gretech's demands. But, it seems like if MBC doesn't negotiate, then the current MSL will not be aired... which would be utterly disappointing to the players, the fans, and to anyone who cares about BW or esports in general. I can't imagine the korean netizans would be too happy about that... | ||
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