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[News] Gretech and OGN enter into a contract

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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 10 2010 01:05 GMT
#1
GomTV announced today that they have entered into a contract with OnGamenet that would allow OnGamenet to hold and broadcast Korean Air Starleague Season 2.

Upon getting exclusive broadcast rights from Blizzard, Gretech, the company that runs GomTV, has given until the end of August so that the current Proleague season would finish. This would have originally have meant that the currently running Starleagues would not have had time to finish. This new contract would allow OnGamenet's Korean Air Starleague Season 2, the currently running OSL, to finish.

The OSL will also be broadcast on GomTV every Wednesday and Friday.

Furthermore, GomTV and Ongamenet are also discussing possibilities of cooperation to broadcast GSL.



Source: http://news.naver.com/main/hotissue/read.nhn?mid=hot&sid1=105&cid=303948&iid=4923340&oid=001&aid=0004597378&ptype=011

*this is not a direct translation, I added/removed a lot of stuff to give it context.
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 10 2010 01:07 GMT
#2
Do you mean the Starcraft 2 starleague sponsored by Korean Air?
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 10 2010 01:07 GMT
#3
On August 10 2010 10:07 Megalisk wrote:
Do you mean the Starcraft 2 starleague sponsored by Korean Air?


Nope, the currently running Starleague.
smekz
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal503 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 01:08:30
August 10 2010 01:07 GMT
#4
good news ;>

ogn running sc2 would be good aswell, but bw first!
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 01:09:04
August 10 2010 01:08 GMT
#5
they weren't originally allowed to air kor air osl 2?

or do you mean the next osl? or what...

edit: nvm

i did not know that it wasn't allowed...
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 01:10:58
August 10 2010 01:10 GMT
#6
Wow, what a surprise! (not really)

Broadcasting SC2 on television would be interesting, though. Ongamenet is filled with a bunch of other shows that probably aren't as popular as BW, maybe SC2 could become more popular than at least one of them?

Thanks for keeping us up to date with the latest news.
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
August 10 2010 01:11 GMT
#7
Speculation so far is that either Gretech will hold hands with OGN/MBC to air GSL, or they might find another company, make a NEW game channel, and broadcast GSL there.

source: http://www.fomos.kr/star2/news_read.html?mode=read&keyno=109686&db=issue

(I was translating this one before I left for Wal-mart, but I closed every window on my laptop (including the translations that I was doing on TL) by accident.)
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
August 10 2010 01:12 GMT
#8
ESPORTS
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 01:13:11
August 10 2010 01:12 GMT
#9
On August 10 2010 10:11 supernovamaniac wrote:
Speculation so far is that either Gretech will hold hands with OGN/MBC to air GSL, or they might find another company, make a NEW game channel, and broadcast GSL there.

source: http://www.fomos.kr/star2/news_read.html?mode=read&keyno=109686&db=issue

(I was translating this one before I left for Wal-mart, but I closed every window on my laptop (including the translations that I was doing on TL) by accident.)


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142560&currentpage=2#25

It's unlikely they'll make a new game channel. If they did, it'd fail. It's not worth translating cause it's just a speculation article based on a few words said on an interview that's been translated by l10f already.
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 01:17:54
August 10 2010 01:14 GMT
#10
Should've read more article before I left for Wal-mart =/

fomos's first speculation was that they will have another channel due to time span (only one month before September arrives, aka beginning of GSL), but this will change things for sure.

And yes. 3rd channel will fail big time.

Also, I think the article mentioned in the middle that Starleague Season 2 will be broadcasted on GomTV as well as OGN.
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 10 2010 01:20 GMT
#11
Thanks for bringing us this Milkis. Really happy that we'll see season 2 of starleague.
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Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11143 Posts
August 10 2010 01:28 GMT
#12
So nothing is changing? Hooray!
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
August 10 2010 02:00 GMT
#13
hooray for status quo
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
August 10 2010 02:04 GMT
#14
About time they got that damned BW contract done.
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Avrithor
Profile Joined May 2010
United States41 Posts
August 10 2010 02:35 GMT
#15
If nothing else I have to think that GSL aired on either OGN or MBC would have to draw more viewers than locking a guy in a room to fail horribly at Metal Gear Solid while bleating AH AH AH AH..... right? :3

Anyway, glad they've cleared the technicalities for OSL to keep broadcasting.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 03:08:53
August 10 2010 03:08 GMT
#16
On August 10 2010 11:04 ZlaSHeR wrote:
About time they got that damned BW contract done.

Although I don't know what's going on behind the scenes I'd bet they dragged out the official contract signing as much as possible to make it seem like negotiations were difficult when they weren't.
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night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 10 2010 03:15 GMT
#17
What does this mean for proleague?
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QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
August 10 2010 03:21 GMT
#18
I wouldn't say nothing is changing.

Obviously OGN is going to have to pay more than they currently are to keep the league rolling. What remains to be seen is if that will actually have a significant impact. That money has to come from somewhere, and even the well-structured Korean eSports scene is not overflowing with it. Just consider the player and practice partner conditions, after all. I think we can all agree that if this money was forced there instead of toward an already-rich corporation, eSports would be a much better place.

Also, this deal could impact MBC in a negative fashion, depending on what they're willing to do to keep things rolling there as well.
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KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
August 10 2010 03:27 GMT
#19
does this mean osl will be broadcasted in English now?

will we see tasteless cast a real tourney?
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Baarn
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2702 Posts
August 10 2010 03:27 GMT
#20
Well at least the casting for a starcraft event on a gomtv broadcast will be good. That is what is killing gomtv. Though they could spend some of that Blizzard cash on sdm and tasteless to do english commentary for us foreigners. That would make sense for a 3rd channel.
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phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
August 10 2010 03:28 GMT
#21
man, fucking gretech and blizzard greed wrenching OGN, MBCgame and progamers
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Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 10 2010 03:32 GMT
#22
I dont follow and keep up to date with news relating to SC2... is GSL referring to a specific Starleague for that?
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
August 10 2010 03:39 GMT
#23
On August 10 2010 12:32 Disregard wrote:
I dont follow and keep up to date with news relating to SC2... is GSL referring to a specific Starleague for that?

See http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141496

For more background info on it, see http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=142000
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Nao
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland166 Posts
August 10 2010 03:40 GMT
#24
ESPORTS!

I'm relived that the talks with Gretch bring good news for future SC:BW as well as SC2 events.
Hope they will keep as much SC:BW events as possible.
On August 10 2010 12:32 Disregard wrote:
I dont follow and keep up to date with news relating to SC2... is GSL referring to a specific Starleague for that?
the info on GSL (Global Starcraft II League)
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 03:40:57
August 10 2010 03:40 GMT
#25
If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 03:47:47
August 10 2010 03:41 GMT
#26
On August 10 2010 10:10 Zona wrote:
Wow, what a surprise! (not really)

Broadcasting SC2 on television would be interesting, though. Ongamenet is filled with a bunch of other shows that probably aren't as popular as BW, maybe SC2 could become more popular than at least one of them?

Thanks for keeping us up to date with the latest news.

We get it, you don't like SC2. :-/

On August 10 2010 12:28 phosphorylation wrote:
man, fucking gretech and blizzard greed wrenching OGN, MBCgame and progamers

Well, I don't know as this constitutes "greed wrenching". GOMTV was prevented from airing BW games in English as well as Korean because of the stranglehold KeSPA, OGN, and MBC had on the progame teams. This new deal just allows GOMTV to air BW, possibly in English, and finally gives OGN and MBC the right to broadcast BW legally.
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 10 2010 03:46 GMT
#27
On August 10 2010 12:40 Lightwip wrote:
If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us.

It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
August 10 2010 03:50 GMT
#28
On August 10 2010 12:46 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:40 Lightwip wrote:
If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us.

It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW.

Why is there such a negative vibe to Blizzard making a deal to broadcast something many people love to watch? Contrary to unpopular but nonetheless disturbing belief, Koreans don't have to watch StarCraft II just because it's there. They can continue watching BW. Unless you fear that SC2 will reach such a degree of popularity that they will no longer support BW, there isn't really a problem.
Who dat ninja?
manymunkies
Profile Joined April 2009
United States184 Posts
August 10 2010 03:51 GMT
#29
i really hope the proleague continues because thats what really made esports really entertaining for me(in addition with the osl/msl)..
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 03:53:32
August 10 2010 03:52 GMT
#30
you're living a pipe dream if you expect osl/msl to be commentated in english.
also there is no way ogn/mbc will allow gsl to broadcast on their channels, live at least (times going to clash with osl/msl/pl). if it were to be on those, it would be at like 12 in the morning when nothing is on. only way live broadcasting is going to be achieved on tv is through a third cable channel like xtm.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33360 Posts
August 10 2010 03:55 GMT
#31
Hooray for not-apocalypse
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 03:59:28
August 10 2010 03:55 GMT
#32
On August 10 2010 12:50 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:46 moopie wrote:
On August 10 2010 12:40 Lightwip wrote:
If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us.

It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW.

Why is there such a negative vibe to Blizzard making a deal to broadcast something many people love to watch? Contrary to unpopular but nonetheless disturbing belief, Koreans don't have to watch StarCraft II just because it's there. They can continue watching BW. Unless you fear that SC2 will reach such a degree of popularity that they will no longer support BW, there isn't really a problem.

If the agreement indeed entails that in order to continue carrying BW (OSL/MSL/SPL), OGN and MBC have to carry GSL as well then its bs. You're not talking about them doing what is best for their ratings or fans, its just a threat from blizzard that either you show what they want you to, or they take away BW.

If GSL is indeed successful (which is unknown at this point), then sure they would probably want to carry it anyway for the ratings, but requiring them to provide air time (depending on the hours) for something that may not have demand as of yet is just a form of extortion.

Then again this is all speculation at this point, so best leave it be.
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 10 2010 04:01 GMT
#33
On August 10 2010 12:41 urashimakt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 10:10 Zona wrote:
Wow, what a surprise! (not really)

Broadcasting SC2 on television would be interesting, though. Ongamenet is filled with a bunch of other shows that probably aren't as popular as BW, maybe SC2 could become more popular than at least one of them?

Thanks for keeping us up to date with the latest news.

We get it, you don't like SC2. :-/

That's not where the post came from. There's been multitudes of good, competitive games in the decade since Brood War was released, and none of them have developed as a spectator "sport" like Brood War has. SC2 won't automatically be successful solely because it's the sequel to Brood War nor will it succeed if it's merely a good, fun game. If you're of the mindset that SC2 will automatically be a success as a spectator sport, or even further, that it will no doubt surpass Brood War in this respect, you haven't clearly examined the landscape.

On August 10 2010 12:41 urashimakt wrote:
Well, I don't know as this constitutes "greed wrenching". GOMTV was prevented from airing BW games in English as well as Korean because of the stranglehold KeSPA, OGN, and MBC had on the progame teams.

You are stating your assumptions as if they are the actual explanation of what took place. Certain teams did not permit their players to participate in some of the GomTV tournaments. But since you're stating your take on things I might as well do the same with mine. The GomTV tournament wasn't televised in South Korea, so the value to the team sponsors was marginal. My guess is that since the GomTV tournament wouldn't be able to reach audiences the way a televised tournament would, it would not be as useful to the team sponsors in promoting their brand or products, and thus they wanted their players to focus only on televised events. Still, the situation is now entirely changed, as before GomTV was not affiliated with CJ.
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don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
August 10 2010 04:56 GMT
#34
As long as the OSL commentators are still in the business, I'm happy. Especially the fat one.
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 10 2010 06:01 GMT
#35
On August 10 2010 12:46 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:40 Lightwip wrote:
If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us.

It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW.

Yeah, I wouldn't want it either, but it would be better than expensive concessions that would cost them lots of money.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
August 10 2010 06:07 GMT
#36
On August 10 2010 13:01 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:41 urashimakt wrote:
On August 10 2010 10:10 Zona wrote:
Wow, what a surprise! (not really)

Broadcasting SC2 on television would be interesting, though. Ongamenet is filled with a bunch of other shows that probably aren't as popular as BW, maybe SC2 could become more popular than at least one of them?

Thanks for keeping us up to date with the latest news.

We get it, you don't like SC2. :-/

That's not where the post came from. There's been multitudes of good, competitive games in the decade since Brood War was released, and none of them have developed as a spectator "sport" like Brood War has. SC2 won't automatically be successful solely because it's the sequel to Brood War nor will it succeed if it's merely a good, fun game. If you're of the mindset that SC2 will automatically be a success as a spectator sport, or even further, that it will no doubt surpass Brood War in this respect, you haven't clearly examined the landscape.

Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:41 urashimakt wrote:
Well, I don't know as this constitutes "greed wrenching". GOMTV was prevented from airing BW games in English as well as Korean because of the stranglehold KeSPA, OGN, and MBC had on the progame teams.

You are stating your assumptions as if they are the actual explanation of what took place. Certain teams did not permit their players to participate in some of the GomTV tournaments. But since you're stating your take on things I might as well do the same with mine. The GomTV tournament wasn't televised in South Korea, so the value to the team sponsors was marginal. My guess is that since the GomTV tournament wouldn't be able to reach audiences the way a televised tournament would, it would not be as useful to the team sponsors in promoting their brand or products, and thus they wanted their players to focus only on televised events. Still, the situation is now entirely changed, as before GomTV was not affiliated with CJ.

Sorry, the post read as though it were comparing SC2 to the likes of something along the lines of Special Force. Many of the programs aired are merely filler inbetween BW games and, as we've seen, SC2 has been more popular than those even before it went retail.

I do readily admit blaming GomTV's failure on its peers is primarily speculative, but far from unlikely.

On August 10 2010 15:01 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 12:46 moopie wrote:
On August 10 2010 12:40 Lightwip wrote:
If OGN/MBC broadcast the GSL in exchange for BW rights, that shouldn't end too badly for us.

It would be pretty bullshit though. Just blizzard trying to stuff SC2 down everyone's throat in Korea or else they'd kill off BW.

Yeah, I wouldn't want it either, but it would be better than expensive concessions that would cost them lots of money.

Someone has to foot the bill to get entertainment out there, might as well be Blizzard Entertainment. If you don't approve, don't watch.
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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 06:11:42
August 10 2010 06:11 GMT
#37
whats GSL? GomTV starcarft2 league?
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bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-10 06:12:57
August 10 2010 06:12 GMT
#38
Did CJ have a part in this? They should just buy up the rest of GOM > : )
a9arnn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1537 Posts
August 10 2010 06:38 GMT
#39
I'm kinda confused, so what about the MSL? Is that going to still be broadcast this month?? MBC iirc didn't want to discuss w/GOM (I read it a while ago, not sure if they changed their mind or anything). The MSL's almost done, and I don't want it to stop part way through
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curiousgeorge
Profile Joined October 2008
United States73 Posts
August 10 2010 06:44 GMT
#40
On August 10 2010 15:38 a9arnn wrote:
I'm kinda confused, so what about the MSL? Is that going to still be broadcast this month?? MBC iirc didn't want to discuss w/GOM (I read it a while ago, not sure if they changed their mind or anything). The MSL's almost done, and I don't want it to stop part way through


Yeah, I'm curious about that, as well. It seems like it could just add more pressure on MBC to capitulate to Gretech's demands. But, it seems like if MBC doesn't negotiate, then the current MSL will not be aired... which would be utterly disappointing to the players, the fans, and to anyone who cares about BW or esports in general. I can't imagine the korean netizans would be too happy about that...
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TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
August 10 2010 07:35 GMT
#41
This is great news. Now the question is will GSL view count/ratings be as good as BW's.
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infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
August 10 2010 07:48 GMT
#42
Ok why was this such a problem to sort out in the first place
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 10 2010 07:51 GMT
#43
E-sports! E-sports! Looking forward to streamed GSL matches and continued BW!
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Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 10 2010 09:14 GMT
#44
Great news, but this Gretech monopoly is really starting to scare me. Not a fan.
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Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
August 10 2010 09:17 GMT
#45
On August 10 2010 10:05 Milkis wrote:

Furthermore, GomTV and Ongamenet are also discussing possibilities of cooperation to broadcast GSL.

Okay, this would be AMAZING for sc2, i really hope OSL accepts and airs it!
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lFrost
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States295 Posts
August 10 2010 09:22 GMT
#46
good news overall i guess. does this mean OGN is basically paying money to blizzard (gretech) from now on to broadcast any proleague/starleagues? i wonder what would happen if they still refused to pay, would anyone enforce blizzard's demands?
mcJ
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark322 Posts
August 10 2010 09:24 GMT
#47
On August 10 2010 10:05 Milkis wrote:
Furthermore, GomTV and Ongamenet are also discussing possibilities of cooperation to broadcast GSL.


That line got me pumped as fuck! OGN broadcasting SC2 would be huge
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
August 10 2010 09:28 GMT
#48
we viewers take so much for granted

now kespa has to negotiate contracts for something that was supposed to be theirs.
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kmdarkmaster
Profile Joined January 2010
France188 Posts
August 10 2010 09:40 GMT
#49
Did Korean gov lift the 18+ rating ? If not how can they broadcast Sc2 without breaking the law ? They broadcast on 18+ only channel ?
ChaosShadow
Profile Joined April 2010
United States79 Posts
August 10 2010 09:52 GMT
#50
On August 10 2010 18:40 kmdarkmaster wrote:
Did Korean gov lift the 18+ rating ? If not how can they broadcast Sc2 without breaking the law ? They broadcast on 18+ only channel ?


SC2 has a 12+ rating in korea.
Terrakin
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1440 Posts
August 10 2010 10:49 GMT
#51
any monopoly is scary... but if its for esports! cant wait for GSL!
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SevenAteNine
Profile Joined February 2010
126 Posts
August 10 2010 11:40 GMT
#52
On August 10 2010 18:14 Mystlord wrote:
Great news, but this Gretech monopoly is really starting to scare me. Not a fan.


yeah but KeSPA monopoly was a-okay but gretech monopoly? BOO!
lol
in all honesty is KeSPA wanted to play ball they could have had it but no and now the chance has left them
and now from all this mess GSL now has their league, how do you guys not consider this a win?
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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
August 10 2010 12:05 GMT
#53
yay for next OSL ! good news
jfourz
Profile Joined August 2009
Ireland421 Posts
August 10 2010 13:11 GMT
#54
are monopolies not illegal in korea?
don't like the idea of one board of directors having so much power

but yay ESPORTS
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palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
August 10 2010 13:57 GMT
#55
Yesterday I wasted 20 minutes of my life, i just watched one match between Bratok and TLO in SC2, poor koreans if some BW air time is going to SC2, at the end everything will be about ratings so a long way to go for SC2, right now BW has no competition.
Jacopana
Profile Joined September 2009
El Salvador210 Posts
August 10 2010 15:13 GMT
#56
aah good news, finish BW starleague and broadcast GSL, at least give a try to sc2
curiousgeorge
Profile Joined October 2008
United States73 Posts
August 10 2010 18:07 GMT
#57
On August 11 2010 00:13 Jacopana wrote:
aah good news, finish BW starleague and broadcast GSL, at least give a try to sc2


I think a lot of people are willing to give sc2 a try, but I think a lot of the frustration has to do with what seems like a shut down of the BW scene. I think Blizzard only starting talking about enforcing their IP rights pretty recently to make way for the coming of sc2. Blizzard is pretty incentivized to kill off BW and make sc2 popular in korea as I believe they charge a large monthly fee for sc2 to the pc bangs while BW was just a single time purchase game. Plus, they'll have two new expansions coming out soon(?). Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy playing and watching sc2, but I hope that both scenes can thrive independently. However, things don't seem to be pointing towards that outcome. =(
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
August 10 2010 18:09 GMT
#58
Definitely not liking Gretech atm.... definitely not, the monopolizing and controlling the power to give others to broadcast or not....

At least OGN is in order for the moment....
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 10 2010 18:17 GMT
#59
On August 11 2010 03:07 curiousgeorge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 00:13 Jacopana wrote:
aah good news, finish BW starleague and broadcast GSL, at least give a try to sc2


I think a lot of people are willing to give sc2 a try, but I think a lot of the frustration has to do with what seems like a shut down of the BW scene. I think Blizzard only starting talking about enforcing their IP rights pretty recently to make way for the coming of sc2. Blizzard is pretty incentivized to kill off BW and make sc2 popular in korea as I believe they charge a large monthly fee for sc2 to the pc bangs while BW was just a single time purchase game. Plus, they'll have two new expansions coming out soon(?). Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy playing and watching sc2, but I hope that both scenes can thrive independently. However, things don't seem to be pointing towards that outcome. =(


OGN's stance is pretty much "wait and see" how people react to Starcraft 2 before doing anything on it.

You know... the way it should be done. I can't help but feel as if Blizzard is trying to force it down at the moment.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7886 Posts
August 10 2010 18:29 GMT
#60
None of us really know what lies behind all of this, but I can't imagine that it can be a good news for bw in any way.
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thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
August 10 2010 19:04 GMT
#61
GSL on TV?
OSL in English?

Some seriously dope possibilities here.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
August 10 2010 19:13 GMT
#62
but but doom and gloom

great news, knew things would start wo work out over time
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
August 10 2010 19:49 GMT
#63
What's so great?

New kids on the block are forcing everyone to suck on their balls by making them pay extra cash in return for letting them run their business. It may be fine for OGN, since CJ media is a pretty wealthy group and all, but the same cannot be said for MBC Game. The future of the Proleague is uncertain, as is the future of individual leagues. Not only do the gaming broadcasting companies have to worry about finding a sponsor every time they host a competition, they have to consider this shit all the time.

The possibility of the entire scene being scaled down just to make space for Starcraft 2, which doesn't even have a solid following in Korea, makes me pissed off more than anything. If Starcraft 2 turns out to be a great game with potential for great television viewing, it will be on television without all this bureaucratic bullshit. I don't like being force fed Starcraft 2. Especially if it threatens to take away something that I enjoy greatly.

Blizzard should not have this much power over what is broadcasted and who arranges which tournaments. Viewers should have that power, not some money hungry whores who wants their shiny new game to have television coverage ASAP. You can't expect the magic to be still there. What drew people in to the Brood War professional scene may not be found if you just replace it with another game with flashier graphics. Let it grow some personality. Let it create some magic before shoving this shit down our throats.

And leave MBC Game the FUCK alone.
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mkfk1
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom153 Posts
August 10 2010 20:12 GMT
#64
On August 11 2010 04:49 Letmelose wrote:
What's so great?

New kids on the block are forcing everyone to suck on their balls by making them pay extra cash in return for letting them run their business. It may be fine for OGN, since CJ media is a pretty wealthy group and all, but the same cannot be said for MBC Game. The future of the Proleague is uncertain, as is the future of individual leagues. Not only do the gaming broadcasting companies have to worry about finding a sponsor every time they host a competition, they have to consider this shit all the time.

The possibility of the entire scene being scaled down just to make space for Starcraft 2, which doesn't even have a solid following in Korea, makes me pissed off more than anything. If Starcraft 2 turns out to be a great game with potential for great television viewing, it will be on television without all this bureaucratic bullshit. I don't like being force fed Starcraft 2. Especially if it threatens to take away something that I enjoy greatly.

Blizzard should not have this much power over what is broadcasted and who arranges which tournaments. Viewers should have that power, not some money hungry whores who wants their shiny new game to have television coverage ASAP. You can't expect the magic to be still there. What drew people in to the Brood War professional scene may not be found if you just replace it with another game with flashier graphics. Let it grow some personality. Let it create some magic before shoving this shit down our throats.

And leave MBC Game the FUCK alone.


Viewers still have that power. If people think sc2 is bad for e sport, than dont watch it. Low rating means no business.

But if SC2 do turns out to be a hit, than the company who make this game has the right to make profit from its e sports, not kespa, not tv station, not some 3rd party management group.


palexhur
Profile Joined May 2010
Colombia730 Posts
August 10 2010 21:53 GMT
#65
On August 11 2010 05:12 mkfk1 wrote:


Viewers still have that power. If people think sc2 is bad for e sport, than dont watch it. Low rating means no business.

But if SC2 do turns out to be a hit, than the company who make this game has the right to make profit from its e sports, not kespa, not tv station, not some 3rd party management group.




So the Tv stations have no right to make a profit, or the sponsor organization (those who feed the pro teams)?, your statement is just absurd. What is disturbing is that in order to put SC2 in some relevance in Korean market, Blizzard is just messing the BW scene.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
August 10 2010 23:07 GMT
#66
On August 10 2010 20:40 SevenAteNine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 18:14 Mystlord wrote:
Great news, but this Gretech monopoly is really starting to scare me. Not a fan.


yeah but KeSPA monopoly was a-okay but gretech monopoly? BOO!
lol
in all honesty is KeSPA wanted to play ball they could have had it but no and now the chance has left them
and now from all this mess GSL now has their league, how do you guys not consider this a win?

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about. KeSPA is called an "Association" for a reason =.=;
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wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 02:38:44
August 11 2010 02:36 GMT
#67
On August 11 2010 03:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:
None of us really know what lies behind all of this, but I can't imagine that it can be a good news for bw in any way.

Hm it's great news. Why would OGN enter a acontract if there are no plans for the Bw OSLs in the next years. They could have just save the money (which is a lot i guess) and move on
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 11 2010 02:38 GMT
#68
On August 11 2010 11:36 wiesel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 03:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:
None of us really know what lies behind all of this, but I can't imagine that it can be a good news for bw in any way.

Hm it's great news. Why would OGN negotiate if there are no plans for the Bw OSLs in the next years. They could have just save the money (which is a lot i guess) and move on


They only negotiated for this current Starleague, and I bet the fact that it's still going on is a part of it.
wiesel
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany727 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-11 02:47:56
August 11 2010 02:40 GMT
#69
still the fact that they even enter a contract only for this OSL.. i interpret it as they definately want to continue with OSL in the future
Motiva
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1774 Posts
August 11 2010 02:53 GMT
#70
"The OSL will also be broadcast on GomTV every Wednesday and Friday."

Is this normal? Anymore information on this? lol. It seems counter intuitive to me. I take it they're reruns?
Keren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States67 Posts
August 12 2010 05:49 GMT
#71
I'm not sure why everyone is assuming that this was extortion where Gretech is just trying to push their product and steal money. The networks undoubtedly have motivation to air SC2, whether it will ever be the juggernaut BW is or not, because they have so much stupid filler between big BW events. SC2 will almost undoubtedly crush them in ratings so I can't imagine that being bad for the network. Feels a lot more like a mutually beneficial agreement than extortion.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51441 Posts
August 12 2010 05:59 GMT
#72
On August 11 2010 11:53 Motiva wrote:
"The OSL will also be broadcast on GomTV every Wednesday and Friday."

Is this normal? Anymore information on this? lol. It seems counter intuitive to me. I take it they're reruns?


no it just legally allows gretech to broadcast the games live if you have gomtv.

pl and msl have (and are still) doing this (now and the past).
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Sasquatch
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada126 Posts
August 13 2010 18:06 GMT
#73
On August 11 2010 03:17 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2010 03:07 curiousgeorge wrote:
On August 11 2010 00:13 Jacopana wrote:
aah good news, finish BW starleague and broadcast GSL, at least give a try to sc2


I think a lot of people are willing to give sc2 a try, but I think a lot of the frustration has to do with what seems like a shut down of the BW scene. I think Blizzard only starting talking about enforcing their IP rights pretty recently to make way for the coming of sc2. Blizzard is pretty incentivized to kill off BW and make sc2 popular in korea as I believe they charge a large monthly fee for sc2 to the pc bangs while BW was just a single time purchase game. Plus, they'll have two new expansions coming out soon(?). Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy playing and watching sc2, but I hope that both scenes can thrive independently. However, things don't seem to be pointing towards that outcome. =(


OGN's stance is pretty much "wait and see" how people react to Starcraft 2 before doing anything on it.

You know... the way it should be done. I can't help but feel as if Blizzard is trying to force it down at the moment.


I completely agree with you. I think the GSL is a good start for competitive SCII, but I think we'll need to see it in WCG before OGN and MBC even consider broadcasting their own leagues... and KeSPA and Blizzard will have to kiss and make up... in other words: its going to be a long time coming. Despite what Blizz is trying to do.
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