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SkyLegenD
United States304 Posts
Basically, I would like to know your guys' opinions on SKT fans. Do you they're just frontrunners, like Yankees fans not from NY or Lakers fans not from LA? Btw, my reason of being an SKT1 fan because of Bisu. I see a lot of people here share my love for him. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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Megalisk
United States6095 Posts
Non SKT1 fans will have something negative to say. I dislike how everyone is all over bisu, only cheering for him when Fantasy is the heart of the team who has contributed way more (and is the successor to boxer/oov). People get so pissed off when they see fantasy instead of bisu, people should <3 all the players of their team! | ||
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Nitan
United States3401 Posts
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
Also, SK was my favorite gas station back in Korea, and my family used SKT as its cellphone carrier =P | ||
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kOre
Canada3642 Posts
other reasons: boxer, oov, bunkie I guess it's because I'm a Protoss player and i chose Protoss because the first few Korean games I saw were of Bisu. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66169 Posts
Other reason: Terran lineup (or used to, anyway) - now it's mainly just Do-Taek-Myung. Fan since 2004 | ||
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seRapH
United States9757 Posts
 BoxeR's cool, but doesn't make my love for the team.A combination of  Bisu and BeSt started it, since i learned pvt from both of them. IntoTheRainBOw's reaver play absolutely astonished me as well, and for a while i opened every game with 2gate reaver.  s2 started to really amaze me later. Fantasy to me has been entertaining, and recently has been getting more of my love with his clutch preparation builds. MIDAS <3 ^_^ HE'S SO CUTE. and that's it. Hyuk is meh. Canata is girly (but kinda pitiful). July i'm a fan of too, but... GoRush is meh. iloveoov is respectable, but to me is meh. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66169 Posts
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cunninglinguists
United States925 Posts
I became a Stars fan when I first got into SC while watching Free vs Jaedong in the Ro16 of an MSL. I had read of Jaedong's tyrannical dominance over all Protoss opponents; contrasting that with Free's constant struggle to win (the only dragon to have never made it to a finals despite making it to 3 separate semifinals) while simultaneously single-handedly shouldering the burden of being the ace of an extremely underfunded, subpar team like Hanbit (before Woongjin pimped them out with some bling) that made watching and cheering for Free enjoyable. It was incredibly exhilarating cheering for Free all the way, and I was ecstatic to see an ultimate 2-1 triumph over Jaedong--especially with a baller late-game performance in the third game. Free's post-game grin matched mine to the tee. From that point onwards I was a Stars and Free fan forevermore. | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
BOXER iloveoov Bisu Of course there are also a few other players I like  | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
Just as much as other team's fans, but T1 has the most fans on TL i think. I've never been a fan of any team, and i still don't understand how can you become fan of Huyk just because you like Bisu. I always liked Yellow, but i never became a fan of Hery just because he was in KTF too. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. | ||
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vance
Thailand118 Posts
Now, Fantasy's (and whichever team he is in) fan forever. | ||
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Rainmaker5
United States1027 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
Other than that, there's so many SKT fans that it seems really stupid to generalise. Every team has bad fanboys, of course that includes the biggest team there is. | ||
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okum
France5778 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
i like all the teams personally, i dont have a problem with any of them and they all have good players. i dont know much about team atmosphere and stuff but im drawn to teams like sk, mbc and khan for having 2 strong, top-class players of the same race playing together. i dunno why, it's just something i like seeing | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:58 7mk wrote: I agree that SKT fans are way too harsh on Fantasy. Other than that, there's so many SKT fans that it seems really stupid to generalise. Every team has bad fanboys, of course that includes the biggest team there is. I like Fantasy, even when he went into a slump after yellowing two OSL finals, not to mention he had a great chance for the Royal Road..only if he played TvP like he did a few months later.. I'm a T1 fan because of Boxer, Oov, then Bisu, then Fantasy.. The team too, sometimes the other players own then lose their touch and then own again like the T1 Zergs. There's always something lovable about this team. | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
They're much better than CJ fans anyway. | ||
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Tuke
Finland1666 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:58 7mk wrote: I agree that SKT fans are way too harsh on Fantasy. I agree with this. The amount of trashtalk Fantasy gets from some SKT fans when he loses is ridiculous. I know this doesn't apply to every SKT fan, but they should be more supportive towards Fantasy. Otherwise SKT fans are nice. | ||
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
EDIT: i have the Fox logo because thats my last name. and because of Nada | ||
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Radio.active
United States121 Posts
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GiftPflanZe
Germany623 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
But I hate SKT1 fans because they praise Bisu like the next coming of Christ ever since he won more than 2 games in a row. | ||
alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
boxer always owning yellow with annoying tvz shit (yea i thought zvt was a pretty hard matchup back then too and lame for zerg T_T ) made me dislike skt more D: then oov the bonjwa back then evil gorilla guy and then hmm like all that stuff about boxer constantly typing messages to make sounds when he was playing against a blind guy D: haha hmm what else yea i was so devastated when ktf lost to skt1 in sky proleague .2006? T____T fraeking epic battle on iron curtain though. and ive also been a cj fan for a long time. + Show Spoiler + GGFFFFFFFFUUUUU | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
On July 20 2010 23:15 Radio.active wrote: The reason SKT fans are so tough on fantasy is because he beat Bisu 3-0 in the Batoo OSL, Since then people didn't like Fantasy, Ofcourse I take them about the same, cause they are equally awesome. and then lost to the finals against Stork? Well it was a bit disappointing in that sense but Fantasy showed why he deserved that spot against Stork, that series was really good. and I bet same would go for the next OSL where Fantasy had some awesome build versus Zerg, and lost to Jaedong. I guess he really drops the ball sometimes when T1 fans gets their hopes on him or something. I'm not really hard on any of the players when they lose, it's a natural thing in BW - or at least I don't recall any instance where I got pissed at a T1 player for losing a big game or something. | ||
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
GoRush, JulyZerg and Beesuit, but still.What I love about SK T1, and what makes it always so fun to watch is that their fame is not only because they're fuckin rich, its because their fans are sooo excited (so am I) you can just feel the anticipation. They have great players (umm Fantasy Bisu BeSt anyone?) and although they have not been famous for having the greatest Zergs, s2 and even Hyuk are changing that.Speaking of Hyuk...Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk + Show Spoiler [MOAR HYUK] + + Show Spoiler [You Asked for It!] + HYUK Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk ![[image loading]](http://kupax.com/files/10398_85w0w/Hyuk.jpg) | ||
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
But we are almost as bad. | ||
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nuke_rush
Hong Kong126 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
On July 20 2010 23:58 disciple wrote: CJ fans are the worst 'OMG homegrown talent, Movie next big thing, OMG effort homegrown talent, neo savior, must be at least as good as jaedong and flash, heavy favorite against Bisu' etc. etc. But we are almost as bad. indeed I dislike SKT because it lacks any interest in having a good zerg (and by good I don't mean hyuk) of course stars fans are the best ^^ (and possibly the less represented team on TL) edit: just a fun poll please don't vote for your team.(massive SKT win otherwise). You should vote on who is the less fanboyish, who supports their team the most (not bandwagonners) etc. (if we take it as which fans are the most fanboyish it will be CJ, SKT at 50/50 Poll: the best fans? Air Force ACE (16) SKT (15) Hwaseung OZ (5) Samsung khan (5) CJ ENTUS (4) STX soul (4) MBC game (4) Hite sparkyz (4) KTF (rolster...what ever) (2) woonjin stars (1) wemadeFOX (1) Estro (1) 62 total votes Your vote: the best fans? (Vote): woonjin stars | ||
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olof
Sweden254 Posts
I respect and like players like BoxeR and iloveoov because what they've done for e-sport and I would gladly cheer for Bisu if it would make a better finals in a individual league, but as a team I really can't stand them. I see them a little as a spoiled kid :/ | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 20 2010 23:58 disciple wrote: CJ fans are the worst 'OMG homegrown talent, Movie next big thing, OMG effort homegrown talent, neo savior, must be at least as good as jaedong and flash, heavy favorite against Bisu' etc. etc. But we are almost as bad. come on, we all know that effort is a terrible player + Show Spoiler + now youre just making things up with "heavy favourite vs bisu" and "at least as good as jd and flash" because noone said those things but hey whatever tickles your fancy. Let your imagination run wild | ||
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Murderotica
Vatican City State2594 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:17 SkyLegenD wrote: SKT1 is arguably the most successful progaming team, sponsored by the one of the largest SK companies, with the most awards, legendary players, and history than any of the other 11. Basically, I would like to know your guys' opinions on SKT fans. Do you they're just frontrunners, like Yankees fans not from NY or Lakers fans but from LA? Btw, my reason of being an SKT1 fan because of Bisu. I see a lot of people here share my love for him. I switched to SKT because of Bisu. But I love the team even more now, with the emergence of Best and Fantasy. Also, Boxer/Oov = win. | ||
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Kici
Poland57 Posts
SKT1 fighting! | ||
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Crunchums
United States11144 Posts
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Piste
6179 Posts
Another team I root is WeMade FOX. I really started to like BaBy after I saw him on that GOM league that Tasteless commentated and knew that some day he is going to get a lot of televised games. They also have the baby bear Midas (who happens to be ex skt), NADA, Pure, roro, Mind and Shine. Awesome team! I also like Woongjin stars just becouse they have Free, Zero, Kwanro and Crazy-Hydra | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
But I've watching SC since Boxer first appeared, so I kinda gotte root for his team. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Piste
6179 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:58 7mk wrote: I agree that SKT fans are way too harsh on Fantasy. On July 20 2010 22:20 Megalisk wrote: I dislike how everyone is all over bisu, only cheering for him when Fantasy is the heart of the team who has contributed way more (and is the successor to boxer/oov). People get so pissed off when they see fantasy instead of bisu, people should <3 all the players of their team! What?? It's hard to believe there's SKT fans who dislikes Fantasy. I'm SKT fan and I love them both. Bisu has done a lot for SKT too, have you followed the play-offs? edit: Maybe poeple are saying bad things about SKT fans becouse there are many who hate Bisu fanboys for some reason. Those are mostly JD-fanboys or CJ-fans tho so who cares. Everyone just should let others root for their players/teams in peace. | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
On July 21 2010 00:14 7mk wrote: come on, we all know that effort is a terrible player + Show Spoiler + now youre just making things up with "heavy favourite vs bisu" and "at least as good as jd and flash" because noone said those things but hey whatever tickles your fancy. Let your imagination run wild jesus, people even started talking that effort has a legacy, I'm not making things up. The week after the OSL finals was the week with the most outrageous fanboysh statements since Bisu won his 3rd msl haha | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
SKT fans and Oz fans follow close behind ofc | ||
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imperator-xy
Germany1366 Posts
then i got to know about bisu, how he dominated savior and so on. his play is so awesome if hes not slumping, hes the fastest player and additionally hes looking good. when he went to skt i became skt fan because i also like boxer a lot. canata is also a nice person and how can you not love their zerg line | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 21 2010 00:42 disciple wrote: jesus, people even started talking that effort has a legacy, I'm not making things up If you're not making it up then go back to the thread and quote someone who said that effort was a heavy favourite vs bisu. I just remember some bulgarian dude who said that bisu wasn't just the favourite but that effort had absolutely 0% chance of winning vs bisu at all. Now that's fanboyism at its best. People talked about effort and his role in savior's "legacy". Big deal, people like to throw around big words. People did the same once for Canata. Freaking Canata. And since you mention the finals, I remember that the large majority of CJ supporters still said that Flash was the better overall player. I didnt see anyone complaining about effort being behind JD and Flash in the power rank either. On July 21 2010 00:35 Piste wrote: Everyone just should let others root for their players/teams in peace. qft PS @OP its SKT/SKT T1, not SKT1 | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Boxer -> T1 -> Oov -> Bisu/Fantasy/Best | ||
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disciple
9070 Posts
On July 21 2010 00:51 7mk wrote: If you're not making it up then go back to the thread and quote someone who said that effort was a heavy favourite vs bisu. I just remember some bulgarian dude who said that bisu wasn't just the favourite but that effort had absolutely 0% chance of winning vs bisu at all. Now that's fanboyism at its best. People talked about effort and his role in savior's "legacy". Big deal, people like to throw around big words. People did the same once for Canata. Freaking Canata. And since you mention the finals, I remember that the large majority of CJ supporters still said that Flash was the better overall player. Listen, I know being a fan is a clearly subjective thing, and I'm not going to convince you, your guys is bad. I like Bisu for a whole set of reasons, I'm sure its the same with you and EffOrt. You suffered a lot because of what savior did and EffOrt's fairy tale win over Flash came just in time for all CJ fans. The fact of the matter is, that EffOrt always had great stats across the board, but never quite managed to show his potential in the individual leagues. The OSL he won was quite simply his first deep run in any of the leagues for his 2 years of progaming career, as far as I can remember his other best achievement was a Ro16 in the MSL or smth like that. There is another player with awesome stats all around, who won the best rookie title back in the day as well - Sea. What separates both is that one OSL, it makes a big difference, but saying that EffOrt has "nothing to prove" and has established himself as one of the very best progamers of his generation is way too much. It really is. The second one is always the hardest to win and only time will tell if EffOrt can walk the way again. But if you want to stick to statistics, EffOrt has only one starleague, and the players you are already comparing him with have triple or five times as much | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
Do we still need to argue further? I mean seriously ... | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On July 21 2010 01:04 disciple wrote: Listen, I know being a fan is a clearly subjective thing, and I'm not going to convince you, your guys is bad. I like Bisu for a whole set of reasons, I'm sure its the same with you and EffOrt. You suffered a lot because of what savior did and EffOrt's fairy tale win over Flash came just in time for all CJ fans. The fact of the matter is, that EffOrt always had great stats across the board, but never quite managed to show his potential in the individual leagues. The OSL he won was quite simply his first deep run in any of the leagues for his 2 years of progaming career, as far as I can remember his other best achievement was a Ro16 in the MSL or smth like that. There is another player with awesome stats all around, who won the best rookie title back in the day as well - Sea. What separates both is that one OSL, it makes a big difference, but saying that EffOrt has "nothing to prove" and has established himself as one of the very best progamers of his generation is way too much. It really is. The second one is always the hardest to win and only time will tell if EffOrt can walk the way again. But if you want to stick to statistics, EffOrt has only one starleague, and the players you are comparing him with have triple or five times as much You make it sound like Effort had been around forever, comparing him to someone like Sea, who has been around 2,5 years longer than him. Why do you keep on mentioning JD vs Flash? The only reason I started comparing them was because you started doing that. Again, I never said that Flash and Jaedong aren't better. They are better than him. Bisu is all of a sudden performing again. Who knows, he might skillwise already be better than effort, we cannot say for sure. What I do know for sure is that he most certainly does not have a 100% chance of winning against Effort. So when an SKT fan does the most outrageous fanboy comment anyone could make (Yes, worse than SuperArc,as hard as that is) at the same time badmouths CJ fans about how biased and stupid we are and how bad our players are,just after we lost a close series, making sure to rub it in while continuously dodging whenever I make a logical counterargument to your unreasonable claims (referring to the old thread here), then that's just frustrating. Btw. just out of curiosity, who do you think is better than Effort atm, other than JD Flash and Bisu? | ||
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danl9rm
United States3111 Posts
But when Bisu and Flash keep losing, I don't "not like" them anymore. Then, I just feel sad for them. I like it that Bisu is winning again. Flash should too. Go Jaedong. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
On July 21 2010 01:24 7mk wrote: You make it sound like Effort had been around forever, comparing him to someone like Sea, who has been around 2,5 years longer than him. Why do you keep on mentioning JD vs Flash? The only reason I started comparing them was because you started doing that. Again, I never said that Flash and Jaedong aren't better. They are better than him. Bisu is all of a sudden performing again. Who knows, he might skillwise already be better than effort, we cannot say for sure. What I do know for sure is that he most certainly does not have a 100% chance of winning against Effort. So when an SKT fan does the most outrageous fanboy comment anyone could make (Yes, worse than SuperArc,as hard as that is) at the same time badmouths CJ fans about how biased and stupid we are and how bad our players are,just after we lost a close series, making sure to rub it in while continuously dodging whenever I make a logical counterargument to your unreasonable claims (referring to the old thread here), then that's just frustrating. Btw. just out of curiosity, who do you think is better than Effort atm, other than JD Flash and Bisu? lol I never said CJ's players are bad, my words were that your team is lacking the confident ace player to deliver in a do-or-die situation. The depth is there, thats for sure, but last year's match vs OZ and now again vs SKT. If you really have that final boss type of player on your team, with 70% or so winrate in ZvP why not play him on a map thats statistically is just slightly in favor of toss? Your coach picked a rookie instead, with no experience whatsoever in such a situation, and while this was purely a managerial decision one may wonder what was the reason for it. Snow played really well to make the game as close as it was but still... And aside from Bisu Jaedong and Flash, which are in a class of their own, fantasy was better than Effort on day 2. Its certainly not enough to make a general statement but EffOrt had it all in his hand, didnt he ? | ||
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
We dont know what exactly Cho's reason were but he's well known for making unusual ace decisions, only that in the past they have pretty much always worked. Effort certainly dropped the ball vs fantasy but otherwise you really cant say a lot of bad things about his ace performances, you mention Oz, but that was against Jaedong and I cant blame him for that. Right before that he had a double win in Ace match and Super Ace match vs Samsung Khan if I remember correctly. People were already bitching about how CJ was a one-man-team. Eiither way, if you had worded yourself every time like you did in this last post I have no doubt that we wouldn't have had any problems at all. | ||
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podzim
Czech Republic41 Posts
I guess I like SKT players mainly for the creativity they bring to SC scene. | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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tedster
984 Posts
Oh yeah, and SKT fans are basically Yankee fans - loud, obnoxious, generally uninformed, and pay no attention to the current state of the game or their favorite players. It hurts that some of my favorite players are SK-aligned because their fans are generally insufferable and never, ever shut up about their team/players, even when the topic has nothing to do with them. It's also annoying how many SK fans don't seem to know anything about any other teams or players. I get that you like Boxer and Bisu. I really do! Thanks for telling me, 500 times a day, in every thread! | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On July 21 2010 02:02 tedster wrote: I like how Fantasy literally bulldozed SKT to a championship over a top-form Jaedong and yet he gets shit from his own "fans". It's hilariously awful. Oh yeah, and SKT fans are basically Yankee fans - loud, obnoxious, generally uninformed, and pay no attention to the current state of the game or their favorite players. It hurts that some of my favorite players are SK-aligned because their fans are generally insufferable and never, ever shut up about their team/players, even when the topic has nothing to do with them. It's also annoying how many SK fans don't seem to know anything about any other teams or players. I get that you like Boxer and Bisu. I really do! Thanks for telling me, 500 times a day, in every thread! great analogy - i'd extend it and put Bisu as Jeter and Fantasy as A-Rod | ||
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Welmu
Finland3295 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:17 SkyLegenD wrote: SKT1 is arguably the most successful progaming team, sponsored by the one of the largest SK companies, with the most awards, legendary players, and history than any of the other 11. Basically, I would like to know your guys' opinions on SKT fans. Do you they're just frontrunners, like Yankees fans not from NY or Lakers fans but from LA? Btw, my reason of being an SKT1 fan because of Bisu. I see a lot of people here share my love for him. Yeah, Bisu is one of the main reasons why I'm SKT fan. I also love their practise place <33 | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
In my opinion, a lot of SKT fans became SKT fans because of a certain player that was on the team, not because of the team itself, so it kind of doesn't make sense to say that its the same reason why someone likes the Yankees. | ||
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hejakev
Sweden518 Posts
I hate when people just cheer for whoever is the player of the moment. That's the difference between real fans and and fanboys. | ||
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nttea
Sweden4353 Posts
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asdfTT123
United States989 Posts
On July 21 2010 02:35 nttea wrote: SKTARDS!!! For some reason i'm not sure why but i find myself constantly offended by bisu fans >_< +1000000000 | ||
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Luvz
Norway356 Posts
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newvsoldschool
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uziasz
Poland70 Posts
Other thing is race... if someone love terrans overall will prolly mostly like Flash now and will be KT fan, if u love toss ull be Bisu and skt1 fan if ur zerg ull be mostly OZ and JD fan. Its bcuz they're on top of their races now. And ofc im not sayin that every zerg will be JD fan etc cuz there are more awesome players Like Effort, Fantasy or Stork, but in most cases its true... sad but true. I personally love all zerg MU's and im JD/OZ fan and its main reason cuz of zerg. But i see other good things in oz, i love Hwaseung House, moreover i like OZ trener or other players like Hiya or... Killer. Meaby Killer fails a lot and ppl just make laugh of him but its another reason i like OZ most. This team makes me smile and laugh (in good meaning of it), meaby its not strongest but it makes me enjoy watchin SC. | ||
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Cheeseburgered
United States716 Posts
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moopie
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Brad
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
Bisu + Fantasy. They started me liking SKT1. Then I grew a partial liking to Canata despite everyone thinking he's boring, and when Hyuk made his amazing run... well ever since then I can't help but root for him and vote for him in LB even if he's been sucking.But mainly Bisu + Fantasy. I love seeing amazing strategic plays that are usable more than just for one Game. Bisu did this in PvZ and Fantasy did it both in TvP and TvZ (although TvP could arguably just be considered a different "style" if anything).P.S. I don't care for Best at all. And Boxer is on the team! | ||
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kmdarkmaster
France188 Posts
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Bisu, Best, Fantasy.... Yeah.. we just rule. Obv best team ever, only rivaled by KT and CJ. Plus, no one else has a current trio of medal wearers. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
don't we have any haters? A LOT.. especially Bisu haters.. so when my boy wins, I love reading posts here from rival fans who are trying bash Bisu's success somehow.. it's just so fun ^^ S K T = T H E.T R U T H | ||
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pinkranger15
Philippines1597 Posts
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KiLL_ORdeR
United States1518 Posts
That, or they're a bunch of Bisu fanboys with sick Fantasys of BoxeRs | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
Also KillOrder can bite me. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On July 21 2010 03:22 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: SKT fans are a bunch of losers who live vicariously through ex-"bonjwas" and Don't even know a thing about Starcraft, other than the fact that SKT = several megasuperstar, mega-inconsistent players, who always happen to barely make the PO's, and then miraculously hit form. That, or they're a bunch of Bisu fanboys with sick Fantasys of BoxeRs' Don't know a thing about starcraft ' You would find out more about the history of progaming through SKT and its former incarnations more than any other team, arguably. ' Megasuperstar, mega-inconsistent players who always happen to barely make POs ' So you mean the fact that SKT has won the most Proleagues, and has won it back to back, and has players deliver when it matters [ aka clutch ] makes them mega inconsistent who always barely make POs? Sounds like you don't know much about starcraft. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On July 21 2010 03:10 darkemperor wrote: I love people jealous of SKT's sucess, it's just more satisfying when we win xD don't we have any haters? A LOT.. especially Bisu haters.. so when my boy wins, I love reading posts here from rival fans who are trying bash Bisu's success somehow.. it's just so fun ^^ S K T = T H E.T R U T H Wat? I feel like Bisu's probably one of the most liked players from the non-SKT fan group. Obv. everyone's jealous of the team that wins... it's just the nature of sports. Anyways, I like Bisu and Boxer and OOV to an extent, but I can't stand Fantasy or Canata or any of their other players. As for the fans... there's a lot, so there's a lot of shitty fanboy overload ones but there are good ones as well. People say CJ fans are worse, but I dunno. I find us more grounded in reality (obv. biased). Most of us thought Effort would lose against Flash, and that his vT is worse than Flash's vZ. Probably the biggest thing about this is because the SKT fanbase is larger, so the amount of good and bad posts increase, and other teams' fans tend to notice bad posts more... so we probably tend to think that SKT fans are bad in general. | ||
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SaetZero
United States855 Posts
If MBC isn't on, I usually watch SKT vs whoever, and root for Bisu or Fantasy (or something other people.) | ||
Last Romantic
United States20661 Posts
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
I still don't like how he's called the best protoss ever when he has yet to win an OSL, though. | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
ps making a distinction between osl/msl at this point is ridiculous | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
Nada is fucking more beastly than anyone from SKT Sorry SKT fans EDIT : I will always be a boxer/oov fan, but i have WeMade's uniform so srry SKT1  | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On July 21 2010 03:44 bearbuddy wrote: Bisu anti-fans left when Savior got in trouble with the law, so I guess Bisu is one of the more liked players, now. I still don't like how he's called the best protoss ever when he has yet to win an OSL, though. Well, in terms of Star League championships... Bisu has 3 Titles (3 MSLs) GARIMTO has 2 titles (2 OSLs) Nal_rA has 2 titles (1 OSL, 1 MSL) Reach has 1 title (1 OSL) Kingdom has 1 title (1 OSL) Stork has 1 title (1 OSL) So, that would make him the best Protoss ever in terms of number of Star League championships. | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
Gorilla ^^+ Fantasy =D Bisu kinda, Best XD | ||
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Grebliv
Iceland800 Posts
on a serious note, Boxer now it's mostly Fantasy and then Best, Bisu and the zergs and well canata and everyone then I guess. | ||
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cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
On July 21 2010 03:48 heyoka wrote: SKT rules cj drools ps making a distinction between osl/msl at this point is ridiculous How is it ridiculous? Different sponsors, different format, different trophies (badge vs. mouse), different stadiums, different prestige/feel, different champions, different history Not making a distinction is ridiculous. It's like saying Wimbledon and US open are the same tournament. | ||
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serenidite
Korea (South)505 Posts
but yeah. Bisu and BeST. as a P player i LOVEEE watching them two different styles of toss (micro + macro) <3 | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
The people who actually like T1 a lot that I talk to are not annoying. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
used to like CJ but they got boring after a while, innovative stuff like Effort's nydus canal against Hyuk seems like the exception and not the norm. | ||
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bearbuddy
3442 Posts
On July 21 2010 04:20 bokchoi wrote: Well, in terms of Star League championships... Bisu has 3 Titles (3 MSLs) GARIMTO has 2 titles (2 OSLs) Nal_rA has 2 titles (1 OSL, 1 MSL) Reach has 1 title (1 OSL) Kingdom has 1 title (1 OSL) Stork has 1 title (1 OSL) So, that would make him the best Protoss ever in terms of number of Star League championships. This has been argued before. Starleague is OSL, MSL is StarCraft League. Hence, Bisu has 0 Starleague under his belt. I know the distinction is rather moot, and technically Bisu is the most decorated Toss player, but when you can't win the most prestigious individual league (and one that doesn't switch its format around to get better ratings), it's a rather big knock on your resume. With the exception of Stork, none of those guys played during the so called Golden Age of protoss. Well, I guess my argument is quite moot as well, since the best ever is a subjective title and most people concede to giving it to Bisu. Sorry about my rant. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
I like some T1 players. I've even slowly warmed up to Bisu over the years. What I don't like is just T1. And Fantasy. Fuck that guy. | ||
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Ideas
United States8108 Posts
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fellcrow
United States288 Posts
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zurg
1923 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
He had a ridiculous OSL run, and If July didn't get a path with no Terrans he would be an OSL champion today. The guy plays a ridiculous style and is super entertaining to watch in long games. | ||
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By.Pato
Costa Rica52 Posts
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shawster
Canada2485 Posts
i feel bad for fantasy though, he deserves to win an osl lol. skt fans are all over bisu but fantasy has been consistently good and he deserves more credit. | ||
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:20 Megalisk wrote: SKT1 fans will say they are cool etc. Non SKT1 fans will have something negative to say. I dislike how everyone is all over bisu, only cheering for him when Fantasy is the heart of the team who has contributed way more (and is the successor to boxer/oov). People get so pissed off when they see fantasy instead of bisu, people should <3 all the players of their team! Fantasy contributed way more? u stupid? User was warned for this post | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
Every team should have a mascot. | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 21 2010 05:19 IntoTheWow wrote: Also T1 fans don't mention BeSt enough. He had a ridiculous OSL run, and If July didn't get a path with no Terrans he would be an OSL champion today. The guy plays a ridiculous style and is super entertaining to watch in long games. He had a cute OSL run, and then he ran into the fucking God of War. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On July 21 2010 05:58 nurle wrote: Fantasy contributed way more? u stupid? User was warned for this post lol yes, Bisu totally won the PL playoffs and not fantasy, oh wait, it was all fantasy. fantasy had 41 wins this year, Bisu a mere 27. | ||
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Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On July 21 2010 04:46 lone_hydra wrote: How is it ridiculous? Different sponsors, different format, different trophies (badge vs. mouse), different stadiums, different prestige/feel, different champions, different history Not making a distinction is ridiculous. It's like saying Wimbledon and US open are the same tournament. Your argument is that because the trophies are different, one can be considered harder and therefore relevant while the other is not? | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
On July 21 2010 05:32 By.Pato wrote: Slayers_'Boxer', Iloveoov, Canata, Fantasy, Bisu, Best, should I continue? SKT rules!!! lol. Hyuk or s2? | ||
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Kyuukyuu
Canada6263 Posts
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sixfour
England11061 Posts
now, if bisu continues his rise in form and reverts to his near-bonjwa obvious #1 protoss level, maybe they might get unbearable. until then, it's only the internet discussing computer games | ||
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LonelyMargarita
1845 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + at least get the name of your favorite team right | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Also SKT1 fans are just bandwagoners for Bisu, Boxer, Oov | ||
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KinosJourney2
Sweden1811 Posts
 Thing is that i like Fantasy, Oov, Boxer, Bisu and the rest is garb IMO. Sure, they might be "good players" but i don't find their play any entertaining/special. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
On July 21 2010 06:16 jalstar wrote: lol yes, Bisu totally won the PL playoffs and not fantasy, oh wait, it was all fantasy. fantasy had 41 wins this year, Bisu a mere 27. Oh sry, i forgot. SKT has only existed for 1 year -_- | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
On July 21 2010 06:47 LonelyMargarita wrote: Who's SKT1? I've heard of SKT T1, but not SKT1. + Show Spoiler + at least get the name of your favorite team right Stop that. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On April 17 2010 14:29 baller wrote: not only do they call themselves skt1 but boxer wrote in his biography that he hated it when ppl called them SKT T1 baller is always right. | ||
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SkyLegenD
United States304 Posts
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SlayerS_BunkiE
Canada1707 Posts
then, bisu!!! and best and fantasy, too!!! plus skt doesn't have cheater zergs but still manage to win! and finally... BUNKIE! | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On July 21 2010 07:35 nurle wrote: Oh sry, i forgot. SKT has only existed for 1 year -_- lolol. fantasy is SKT's ace right now, stop being so butthurt. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
I thought he was universally hated. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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ClanOverdosed
691 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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~ava
Canada378 Posts
My impressions have since changed and I love Jaedong more and more, for his determination/work ethic/death stare. He seems to genuinely love his foreign fans. I saw Bisu's form slump as laziness/confidence on his part, I lost interest until his form came back recently. Favourite player these days is Jaedong but I still cheer for SKT because I arbitrarily chose them in 2008 and I like Best/the other guys a lot. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On July 21 2010 06:18 heyoka wrote: Your argument is that because the trophies are different, one can be considered harder and therefore relevant while the other is not? Why even bother replying if you're going to ignore the most relevant parts of the post... Just because a TL writer makes a front page article saying OSL is no longer the most prestigious tournament of all time doesn't make it truth. Ratings, announcers, and progamers make the opinions. | ||
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Tempest[OEC]
United States417 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
edit: I kinda like Hyuk too lol, pfffft to Fantasy | ||
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Denizen[9]
United States649 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
Or to be more specific, Bisu, Fantasy and Boxer. Their playing styles are just screaming entertainment. Yes, even those fail builds from Fantasy. Fantasy v.s. Calm is one of my most beloved rivalry. The failtainment in their numerous series is just so great. Bisu's multitask based harassment heavy pretty boy style entertains to no end. As long as he is playing, there is always something going on in the game. No massive 15 minutes turtling with nothing happening. He drops, dt, bulldog, proxy, proberto, whatever. He's THE man. Boxer is boxer. Nothing else need to be added. Best can be pretty entertaining when his macro truly kicks in. It's pretty awe worthy to watch endless stream of units reinforcing his huge ass army as he 1a2a3a4a5a them into plague, storm, mines, tanks, lurkers and cliffs. And of course, Hyuk, our future Zerg bonjwa. He is the Zerg version of Backho. Who can possibly hate Backho? | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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monstar123
United States516 Posts
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
one of many moments that made me love pro sc. <3 fantasy | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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SoJu.WeRRa
Korea (South)820 Posts
When he played for MBC, he really showed lot of new strategies etc... with SKT same. Thats why I like SKT and Bisu ^^ | ||
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pileopoop
Canada317 Posts
This is why I love SKT. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2267 Posts
Bisu- just exelent to watch. Even if he was in other team, he would be my favorite protoss player. Hyuk- I like this guy. Not the most skillfull or fun to watch, but his determination is respectable. I love when he wins. Best- solid player, made a great work last season. Bunkie- badass SKT- ultimate gosu team. And its rather obvious that some fanboys of JD or Savior or Flash or CJ team or anybody else are no better than SKT fanboys. The best fans are those of Ace, they are strong and determined, and they dont give the loyalty up. | ||
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nurle
Norway308 Posts
On July 21 2010 08:50 jalstar wrote: lolol. fantasy is SKT's ace right now, stop being so butthurt. First of all Bisu played ace yesterday. +bisu was way better than fantasy before his slump, just been playing bad some months, but is obviously back now-_- | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3330 Posts
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On July 20 2010 22:17 SkyLegenD wrote: SKT1 is arguably the most successful progaming team, sponsored by the one of the largest SK companies, with the most awards, legendary players, and history than any of the other 11. Basically, I would like to know your guys' opinions on SKT fans. Do you they're just frontrunners, like Yankees fans not from NY or Lakers fans not from LA? Btw, my reason of being an SKT1 fan because of Bisu. I see a lot of people here share my love for him. You do know Bisu used to be with MBC. My team got fucked over for a bit when he left, so I say f him. At least we still got Pusan and I've always been a bigger fan of Pusan than Bisu. ^^ The fact of the matter is there are so many SK fans for various reasons (whether it be BoxeR, Fantasy, Bisu or Hyuk *cough* to name a few). Of course they're going to be more vocal. I personally don't care because it's all talk. You got to walk the walk before you can actually talk the talk and SK really has too few titles to show for it. That's just my 2 cents. | ||
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shucklesors
Singapore1176 Posts
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AlgeriaT
Sweden2197 Posts
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seRapH
United States9757 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On July 21 2010 20:45 StarStruck wrote: You do know Bisu used to be with MBC. My team got fucked over for a bit when he left, so I say f him. At least we still got Pusan and I've always been a bigger fan of Pusan than Bisu. ^^ The fact of the matter is there are so many SK fans for various reasons (whether it be BoxeR, Fantasy, Bisu or Hyuk *cough* to name a few). Of course they're going to be more vocal. I personally don't care because it's all talk. You got to walk the walk before you can actually talk the talk and SK really has too few titles to show for it. That's just my 2 cents. Honestly, too few compared to whom? If I've read the teams properly, I think they've got the best and most consistent performers compared to everyone else? Or do you expect them to have streaks of golds just because of who they've had in their teams over the years? | ||
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
On July 21 2010 00:30 Cambium wrote: boxer and oov, then fantasy and best; I never really liked bisu much actually Agreed. I started seeing VOD's and Reps of BoxeR, and then the highlight video, and i was like "OMG does he still play?" and i started following SKT T1. | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 21 2010 20:45 StarStruck wrote: You do know Bisu used to be with MBC. My team got fucked over for a bit when he left, so I say f him. At least we still got Pusan and I've always been a bigger fan of Pusan than Bisu. ^^ The fact of the matter is there are so many SK fans for various reasons (whether it be BoxeR, Fantasy, Bisu or Hyuk *cough* to name a few). Of course they're going to be more vocal. I personally don't care because it's all talk. You got to walk the walk before you can actually talk the talk and SK really has too few titles to show for it. That's just my 2 cents. What? Too few titles? Seriously? | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On July 21 2010 22:19 SkelA wrote: Most hated team of all time for me. I just hate em so much ...and when Bisu joined oh boy i started hating them even more. sooooooooooooooooo true right when oov stopped consistently showing up on PL lineups and when they added bisu, i found my hate for SKT slowly build up without me realizing lol edit: o lol just realized this was opinion on fans not the team lol o well hate em as much as i hate SKT1 :p | ||
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
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cujo2k
Canada1044 Posts
You could make the same argument for OZ fans though. I mean I only like OZ cuz of jaedong lolol | ||
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Odinsphere
United States57 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On July 22 2010 00:30 cujo2k wrote: I dunno I personally like SKT fans cuz they seem loyal to their entire team, but KT fans seem like they are only FlaSh fans and hence all KT fans are just terranfanboys in disguise. You could make the same argument for OZ fans though. I mean I only like OZ cuz of jaedong lolol Ofcourse it's easy for them to be loyal to their whole team because their team doesn't revolve around one player. Even then, some Bisu fanboys are not very good at showing support for the other players on the team when they don't perform well. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On July 21 2010 20:48 shucklesors wrote: Well, regardless of how blind and deranged SKT1 fans may be, they're still uncomparable to Hwaseung fans in that aspect. There's absolutely nothing deranged about thinking that Jaedong is the single greatest person to have graced the Starcraft progaming scene. Nothing deranged at all. | ||
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Randomaccount#77123
United States5003 Posts
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On July 22 2010 01:39 Barrin wrote: I donno man, most of the fans in my house can only blow. laaaaame | ||
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Mooncat
Germany1228 Posts
Bisu fans seem to be especially annoying though to be honest. He constantly receives way too much praise for what he does imho. As others have pointed out, fantasy is much more of a key player for SKT1 than Bisu is. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On July 22 2010 02:07 LunarDestiny wrote: SKT1 fans aren't annoying at all. They are just like any fans. The reason that people think they are annoying is because there of a lot of them. Pretty much. They're just like any other fanbase, just there's more of them. And as with any other fanbase, there are the blatantly biased fanboys who will fight to the death supporting their favorite player, throwing all rationality out the window. But hey, that's a part of being a blind fanboy. | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Spyfire242
United States715 Posts
I dislike all the trash-talk after you had already won, I at least would have said something like "SKT1 put up a great fight." (If CJ had won.) Or something like that, oh well good luck in your matches to come. | ||
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seRapH
United States9757 Posts
On July 22 2010 07:28 Spyfire242 wrote: + Show Spoiler + I dislike all the trash-talk after you had already won, I at least would have said something like "SKT1 put up a great fight." (If CJ had won.) Or something like that, oh well good luck in your matches to come. oh come on. we need both, otherwise its not a sport but a ceremony. we'll have people who trash talk, and people who are polite in every fanbase. and both are absolutely vital. | ||
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WhoNeedsMacro
Canada43 Posts
Now, its a combination of Fantasy, Bisu, and Best that make up why i'm a fan of SKT1 | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 22 2010 01:39 Barrin wrote: I donno man, most of the fans in my house can only blow. hahaha lame joke deserves more love imo | ||
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Illusion.
United States348 Posts
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MisteR
Netherlands595 Posts
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Anxiety
United States650 Posts
On July 21 2010 08:50 jalstar wrote: lolol. fantasy is SKT's ace right now, stop being so butthurt. Wat are you talking about? the origonal SKT was made in 2004. (Im pretty sure about this. | ||
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jazzy3001
21 Posts
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
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