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Analyst Report: STX Soul expected to win Proleague - Page 4

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Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 23 2010 03:09 GMT
#61
...wasn't this a joke write-up? I got the impression that the OP (AWESOME JOB, by the way) was just kidding around and made this thread, giving it an almost satirical professionalism, etc.

I laughed--hard--but now I'm not sure if I should, because people are reacting seriously. This was supposed to be a joke/funny thread...right? :D
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 23 2010 05:24 GMT
#62
On July 23 2010 11:58 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
STX won't play July, but they main-teamed TossGirl. They're doomed.


Tossgirl is obvious their 2nd best Terran, after CuteAngel of course!

CuteAngel for bonjwa?!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
July 23 2010 05:32 GMT
#63
On July 23 2010 12:09 Z3kk wrote:
...wasn't this a joke write-up? I got the impression that the OP (AWESOME JOB, by the way) was just kidding around and made this thread, giving it an almost satirical professionalism, etc.

I laughed--hard--but now I'm not sure if I should, because people are reacting seriously. This was supposed to be a joke/funny thread...right? :D


Yes.

GO SHUTTLE. STX shall be carried to victory on your shoulders.
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
olof
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden254 Posts
July 23 2010 10:54 GMT
#64
On July 23 2010 11:09 MisteR wrote:
Huge rant on STX manager

I'm not quite sure if you're serious since this thread is mostly a shitfest where people can hate STX. For the sake of the argument, and the fact that your wrote quite alot, let's assume that you're completely serious.

On July 23 2010 11:09 MisteR wrote:
Every team needs his clutch player and STX hasn't really.

STX doesn't have an ACE player, what's new? They've had some luck in the individual leagues with Kal and Calm, are you really saying the coach is doing a bad job by sending them out in ACE games? If there's someone that should step up to take a win it's them. And c'mon, sending out July? We love that sumo but there's no chance he's going to catch another title or win 50%+ of his games these days.


On July 23 2010 11:09 MisteR wrote:
My coach once told me that you can recognize who actually has a clue and who doesn't.

You're ranting that the STX coach has no clue and randomly players to the games, at the same time you're pointing out Modesty as a lucky ZvZ player. How about checking his records? Do you think there's a coincidence that he has 38 zvz games while his zvt and zvp only stacks up to 27? It's because the coach predicts and is able to use modesty in the only way he can, as a ZvZ player. Because quite honestly, he's a terrible player in the other matchups.

Most players are good vs protoss, Calm Hero and Shuttle all have very high win percentage, while there aren't many players that are good versus terran. The Coach said recently in an interview that he wants a terran player for the team but there aren't anyone for sale now, at the same time their younger terrans hasn't really showed much yet (Last Bogus).. It's a weak spot but it's difficult to do something about, even though he's a coach he couldn't predict that their only decent terranplayer would be banned for life, halfway hrough the season.


I know it's trendy to hate STX, all the cool kids are doing it. But even though they're in a slump the finished 2nd in the regular season and even if they can't get out of their slump until the semi's they still get at least Bronze.

They deserve some love even in these shitfest of a thread !
hi man O_O
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10873 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-23 11:09:23
July 23 2010 11:08 GMT
#65
That writeup was pure awesome :D



Hm.. Humor seems to be a rare thing on TL.net these days...
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 23 2010 23:23 GMT
#66
Was this written by a Lehman Brothers credit analyst?
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
July 24 2010 17:45 GMT
#67
STX has a reliable protoss in (P)Kal, plus a decent backup in (P)Shuttle.

(Z)Calm ought to be out of his slump by the Semi-Final, while (Z)hero and (Z)Modesty can still perform ZvP and ZvZ respectively.

But everyone already knows that the team has good protosses and zerg(s). As for the terran lineup, (T)Frozean, (T)Last, and (T)Bogus together cover all match ups. They are all proficient in TvZ and hit-or-miss in TvT. The latter two players cover TvP.
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
July 24 2010 17:52 GMT
#68
epic thread... right up there with the 'Terran is the manliest' thread!

and STX will be swept out for sure.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 01 2010 07:20 GMT
#69
+ Show Spoiler +
lolz

Zed Research Inc. takes no responsibility for any losses incurred on investments made in response to this report! Markets are totally unpredictable and no one could have correctly predicted the actual outcome.

Be sure to purchase our newest report, "KT Rolster expected to win Proleague!"
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
August 02 2010 14:03 GMT
#70
On July 23 2010 19:54 olof wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 11:09 MisteR wrote:
Huge rant on STX manager

I'm not quite sure if you're serious since this thread is mostly a shitfest where people can hate STX. For the sake of the argument, and the fact that your wrote quite alot, let's assume that you're completely serious.

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 11:09 MisteR wrote:
Every team needs his clutch player and STX hasn't really.

STX doesn't have an ACE player, what's new? They've had some luck in the individual leagues with Kal and Calm, are you really saying the coach is doing a bad job by sending them out in ACE games? If there's someone that should step up to take a win it's them. And c'mon, sending out July? We love that sumo but there's no chance he's going to catch another title or win 50%+ of his games these days.


Show nested quote +
On July 23 2010 11:09 MisteR wrote:
My coach once told me that you can recognize who actually has a clue and who doesn't.

You're ranting that the STX coach has no clue and randomly players to the games, at the same time you're pointing out Modesty as a lucky ZvZ player. How about checking his records? Do you think there's a coincidence that he has 38 zvz games while his zvt and zvp only stacks up to 27? It's because the coach predicts and is able to use modesty in the only way he can, as a ZvZ player. Because quite honestly, he's a terrible player in the other matchups.

Most players are good vs protoss, Calm Hero and Shuttle all have very high win percentage, while there aren't many players that are good versus terran. The Coach said recently in an interview that he wants a terran player for the team but there aren't anyone for sale now, at the same time their younger terrans hasn't really showed much yet (Last Bogus).. It's a weak spot but it's difficult to do something about, even though he's a coach he couldn't predict that their only decent terranplayer would be banned for life, halfway hrough the season.


I know it's trendy to hate STX, all the cool kids are doing it. But even though they're in a slump the finished 2nd in the regular season and even if they can't get out of their slump until the semi's they still get at least Bronze.

They deserve some love even in these shitfest of a thread !


Let me say this first: my rant was entirely serious, though I completely understood the OP to be joking. My hate is solely directed to the p.o.s. that is the STX coach, since I respect, and like, many of the STX players. It was merely triggered by the joke the OP was making, since it struck me as weird that an SKT1 fan would complete the cycle of threads for STX, even though they reached 2nd place in the regular season. Then things clicked together and I understood that something is deeply wrong with the team.

The STX coach sealed the deal with his remark in the P.O. day1 interview when he said that Shuttle wouldn't get a game since he was not good enough in practice. A real coach would never say that in public. Coaching is all about instilling confidence, and you can see the difference between a good coach like coach Park who'll send out Canata in clutch situations and praising the terran veteran afterwards, and a bad coach like the STX one who'll rag on the players that are slumping, which is similar to a kicking a man while he's down. Coaches like him disgust me. This manager is the reason that all the excellent players from STX SouL like July, Hero, Calm, Shuttle, Frozen, Bogus, and even Kal, perform way under their abilities, especially in important, pressurizing situations.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 02 2010 14:05 GMT
#71
Well, looks like STX is out. On paper they have an amazing team....don't know what happened
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9802 Posts
August 02 2010 14:09 GMT
#72
On August 01 2010 16:20 Zona wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
lolz

Zed Research Inc. takes no responsibility for any losses incurred on investments made in response to this report! Markets are totally unpredictable and no one could have correctly predicted the actual outcome.

Be sure to purchase our newest report, "KT Rolster expected to win Proleague!"

i am absolutely shocked that such an analysis happened to be wrong. but that's how chance works. i still have absolute faith in your research.
boomer hands
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
August 02 2010 14:33 GMT
#73
The only miscalculation in this report is regarding CuteAngel. As the STX manager foolishly utilized his ultimate ace player in the regular sets instead of the ace sets, the doom of the team was sealed.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 03 2010 02:46 GMT
#74
On August 02 2010 23:03 MisteR wrote:
The STX coach sealed the deal with his remark in the P.O. day1 interview when he said that Shuttle wouldn't get a game since he was not good enough in practice. A real coach would never say that in public. Coaching is all about instilling confidence, and you can see the difference between a good coach like coach Park who'll send out Canata in clutch situations and praising the terran veteran afterwards, and a bad coach like the STX one who'll rag on the players that are slumping, which is similar to a kicking a man while he's down. Coaches like him disgust me. This manager is the reason that all the excellent players from STX SouL like July, Hero, Calm, Shuttle, Frozen, Bogus, and even Kal, perform way under their abilities, especially in important, pressurizing situations.

If the interview wasn't mistranslated, I agree with this particular point about that comment wholeheartedly. (And the comment about Bogus could be interpreted in a negative way as well, since he wasn't sent out Day 2.) Now it's probably very difficult for us fans to know if the manager was one of the factors responsible for the STX players' slumps, but it can't be denied that managers and coaches have a huge impact on how well players perform. MBCGame Hero had a particular bad run that ended when the manager or head coach was replaced, and anecdotes did slip out that the guy replaced made the environment very poor for the team, so that was one situation where we do know as fans that the coaching staff made a very negative impact.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 03 2010 03:30 GMT
#75
The "forward-looking statements" part of this writeup is freaking hilarious. Gotta comply with the SEC Kespa when doing a public offering.
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