• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:02
CET 14:02
KST 22:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down21ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League99
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book 5.0.17 Patch Notes - October 7, 2026 Evil Geniuses - shutting down SC2 Power Rank: epic29
Tourneys
ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 RSL 2026 Offline Finals LCQ Sign-Ups
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
Rollback Netcode in Brood War BW General Discussion Mathematicians needed to calc "Low Econ Epicness" Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) [Megathread] Daily Funny Videos
Tourneys
2v2v2v2 Tournament Stage 1: Community Poll [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] IPSL Winter 26-27 Ro24 is HERE! [$1250] International ShieldBattery League
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Chess Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7563 users

Why KT will win the Proleague - Page 7

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 12 Next All
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:21:10
August 03 2010 01:20 GMT
#121
On August 03 2010 10:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wonder how many ace matches Best has won.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SKT

According to Liquipedia, Best was SKT's ace player for almost 3 seasons.

I am just taking a educated guess here. But I think the number is probably more than all of KT's non-Flash players combined.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 03 2010 01:23 GMT
#122
On August 03 2010 10:20 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 10:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wonder how many ace matches Best has won.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SKT

According to Liquipedia, Best was SKT's ace player for almost 3 seasons.

I am just taking a educated guess here. But I think the number is probably more than all of KT's non-Flash players combined.


Talking this season, man.
Remember Violet.
yanmaodao
Profile Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
August 03 2010 01:36 GMT
#123
SKT being comprised of three great vP'ers and three zergs, I don't think they should field three protosses, if that's what they're planning on doing.

This could go either way.

Calling:

Bisu > Hoejja
Hyuk < Forgg
Best > Flash
Fantasy > Stats
Soo < 815
s2 > Violet

or...

Hyuk < Stats
Fantasy < Flash
Best < Hoejja
Canata > Forgg
Bisu < Violet
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 03 2010 01:37 GMT
#124
Rofl Best over Flash.
Remember Violet.
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:52:15
August 03 2010 01:51 GMT
#125
Stop arguing, it's taking this thread nowhere.
SKT fans, please, you have your own (and bigger) thread, and made by an OP who has 13k posts. I don't know if any KT fan has gone into your thread and trashtalk, but I sure didn't. So go back there and vent your anti-KT bash rant.
Sure history is on your side as 2005 has seen the culmination of Boxer+Oov generation triumph over the combined might of Reach+Ra+Yellow but this is 2010. This is a different era after all.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:59:53
August 03 2010 01:59 GMT
#126
On August 03 2010 10:20 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 10:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Wonder how many ace matches Best has won.


http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/SKT

According to Liquipedia, Best was SKT's ace player for almost 3 seasons.

I am just taking a educated guess here. But I think the number is probably more than all of KT's non-Flash players combined.

09-10 Round 2

Third man: soo ...

seriously?
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 03 2010 02:01 GMT
#127
On August 03 2010 10:51 dtnmang wrote:
Stop arguing, it's taking this thread nowhere.
SKT fans, please, you have your own (and bigger) thread, and made by an OP who has 13k posts. I don't know if any KT fan has gone into your thread and trashtalk, but I sure didn't. So go back there and vent your anti-KT bash rant.
Sure history is on your side as 2005 has seen the culmination of Boxer+Oov generation triumph over the combined might of Reach+Ra+Yellow but this is 2010. This is a different era after all.

Calm down man. Most of the trash talk in this thread is fun and playful, meant to hype stuff up. You're the one being a downer in this thread.
kawatan
Profile Joined January 2010
288 Posts
August 03 2010 02:06 GMT
#128
you really can't argue the fact that kt has demonstrated they're no.1 by a mile. while r5 flash wasn't as impressive his team perked up some. kt has had some time for a wee bit of r&r and skt is showing signs of fatigue, and has exposed some weakness and predictable strategies. had skt been in the no2 spot i would've expected them to win the finals. i expect a 4-2 kt without flash even needing to play.
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8198 Posts
August 03 2010 02:10 GMT
#129
SKT fans are hilarious. We have been killing your team for the whole season and now "history" and "destiny" will let you win. OK.

KT is a better team than SKT. Better supporting crew and a much better ace. SKT needs a lot of luck to win this final. This isn't Jaedong Oz. KT players have been strong recently
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 02:29:29
August 03 2010 02:29 GMT
#130
On August 03 2010 11:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
SKT fans are hilarious. We have been killing your team for the whole season and now "history" and "destiny" will let you win. OK.

KT is a better team than SKT. Better supporting crew and a much better ace. SKT needs a lot of luck to win this final. This isn't Jaedong Oz. KT players have been strong recently


How soon you forgot your recent loss against us in ace match.

Bisu, Best and Canata are performing again. This is a whole different ball game. Unlike your Zergs, at least our Zergs can potentially bring the bacon home as Ro5 has proven. Hyuk got into dual Ro16, beating ForGG convincingly along the way too. Your Zergs have contributed nothing since Luxury left in disgrace.

SKT Terran < KT Terran
SKT Toss > KT Toss
SKT Zerg > KT Zerg

I think we have a winner.
b0lt
Profile Joined March 2009
United States790 Posts
August 03 2010 02:33 GMT
#131
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]

Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 02:39:33
August 03 2010 02:37 GMT
#132
^lol nuff said.
well anyways i've always thought that skt and kt were both evenly matched
in terms of tosses and failzergs..and kt slightly ahead in terrans now that
THE PRETENDER is back...

who knows..wwe might see snipes for both teams the entire bo7 :3
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
August 03 2010 02:56 GMT
#133
On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]




Bisu ELO 2191 pts
Best ELO 2170 pts

Stats ELO 2156 pts
Violet ELO 2112 pts
--------------------------------------
Bisu KESPA 12
Best KESPA 24

Stats KESPA 26
Violet KESPA 35
--------------------------------------
Bisu Power Rank 6
Best Power Rank 10

Stats ????
Violet ????

And here is my original reply to that image macro:

On August 03 2010 08:18 dukethegold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
On August 03 2010 03:15 dukethegold wrote:
KT Protoss wanna be rivals with SKT Protoss, both ability and appearance wise.


+ Show Spoiler +
Yeah, I agree. Bisu demolished KT protosses every single time he played them
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


Wait Bisu hasn't won a single game against KT tosses?

How about best?

[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]


The only game an SKT toss has won against a KT toss was in 2008


Well, I am glad that the KT tosses have something to be proud of! It's not like they have ever won any gold or silver in the leagues or took the proleague gold home or carried their own team or have a proven track record of being clutch when it counts in high pressure situations like, oh, the proleague final. Heck, they were once even considered to be amongst the weakest racial lineups amongst all teams. But I am glad that they were able to seize the opportunities when the SKT tosses are down and slumping to kick them in the backside.

This way, we can actually be convinced that KT toss is capable of providing us fans with some entertainment with good games! We can't possibly have all the winds blowing toward SKT toss' directions after all for the sake of the spirit of the competition. Bisu is too handsome as he is and Best is buff enough as he is. We must respect the chin.
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
August 03 2010 02:58 GMT
#134
power rank lol
HEY MEYT
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States8198 Posts
August 03 2010 04:10 GMT
#135
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 03 2010 11:33 b0lt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 11:29 dukethegold wrote:
SKT Toss > KT Toss

I think we have a winner.


Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]
[image loading]



Boom. Headshot. 

Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you. So Bisu used to be good and won leagues before Flash and Jaedong started heating up. And yeah, BeSt took a "sick" 0-3 loss for silver and hasn't done jack since. Stats and Violet are better PL preformers than Bisu and better v Z and P than Best. Your zerg lineup will fall to our P lineup. 

So in reality

KT T > SKT T
KT P > SKT P
KT Z < SKT Z

and we both know that our zerg lineups are going to suck hard regardless. Hoejja will probably snipe Bisu, maybe Hyuk will snipe anyppi... but we can call it even on that front. 

As for Best.. nothing Flash can't handle as he did in their MSL meeting. You know, where he went 3-0. Jeez Best gets 3-0ed often in important series . 

Flash > any player on SKT really tbh. 
Hoejja is 50/50 vs any of your P's
ForGG is a clutch playoffs player and has finals experience. 
And our P's have been beating your P's for a whole year now...

HMMMMM
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 03 2010 04:24 GMT
#136
On August 03 2010 13:10 Vasoline73 wrote:
Dukethegold, really I feel bad for you.

You might want to save this kind of statement until after the games play out, in case you have to eat your words.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind the SKT zergs getting matched up against the KT protosses. Better that then matching them up with a terran.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 03 2010 04:33 GMT
#137
On August 03 2010 11:58 JohnColtrane wrote:
power rank lol

lmao at the repeated attempts of people trying to back their arguments with the power rank.
nozaro33
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Taiwan1819 Posts
August 03 2010 04:50 GMT
#138
the last time they met up, KT won without fielding Flash
#1 Flash / #2 NaDa / #3 Stats fan / KT fan for life
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
August 03 2010 04:58 GMT
#139
i like these kind of threads, gj

hoping for some good games as i only root for good games and dont care about the teams ^^
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 03 2010 05:11 GMT
#140
On August 03 2010 13:58 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
i like these kind of threads, gj

hoping for some good games as i only root for good games and dont care about the teams ^^

I envy you. Somehow (Boxer) I became a SKT fan, but not being fans of particular teams in other sports allows me to enjoy games in those sports no matter who wins.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Ultimate Battle
21:00
Google Play
Rush vs BeStLIVE!
UltimateBattle 1619
Liquipedia
WardiTV Weekly
21:00
WardiTV Mondays #111
IntoTheiNu 1241
WardiTV538
OGKoka 264
IndyStarCraft 139
Rex118
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko356
OGKoka 267
IndyStarCraft 125
Rex 108
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 7125
Bisu 1292
Shuttle 812
Jaedong 721
BeSt 470
firebathero 457
FanTaSy 351
Mini 346
Stork 341
Larva 323
[ Show more ]
actioN 284
Light 203
ggaemo 180
Rush 151
Hyuk 136
Snow 100
Mind 98
hero 87
Barracks 78
Leta 70
Sharp 53
Sea.KH 46
Mong 44
Pusan 43
Killer 40
sorry 38
Shine 33
ToSsGirL 31
Terrorterran 30
soO 23
ZergMaN 22
Shinee 18
yabsab 18
Bishop 17
Sacsri 17
HiyA 17
Aegong 16
Hm[arnc] 15
scan(afreeca) 12
Noble 10
zelot 7
Icarus 6
Dota 2
BananaSlamJamma133
Counter-Strike
fl0m4709
olofmeister1748
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King72
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu1686
crisheroes409
Other Games
B2W.Neo1127
Pyrionflax228
Sick101
QueenE69
singsing68
ArmadaUGS45
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL464
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 11
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV826
League of Legends
• Stunt392
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 58m
Rogue vs Classic
Patches Events
23h 58m
PiGosaur Cup
1d 11h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 21h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
KCM Race Survival
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
herO vs Rogue
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
IPSL
5 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
[ Show More ]
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-01
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.