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On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent. Hyuk beat Jaedong, and that's the point: even a n00b like Hyuk, when given the blessing of the SK Telecom T1, is good enough to beat stars. So KTFlash won WL, a really worthless competition. Yellow won some non-sanctioned competition too. KT is just a projection of Yellow: destined to always be close, but never quite enough. Win differential, so what? It doesn't mean anything other than that you can have your fluky players beat some teams in games they dont care that much about. You are forever Yellow cursed. SKT is the King of PL, and KT is the King of Silver. It is and will always be that way, forever. SKT has 2 bonjwas lending their brilliance to SKT, while you only have a few players who scraped off a silver or two in their SL career, overshadowed forever by SKT's greats.
you take this really seriously huh?
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On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent.
You are aware that these kind of false arguments never have had any hold in the game, right?
Wait, obviously you aren't.
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On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent. Hyuk beat Jaedong, and that's the point: even a n00b like Hyuk, when given the blessing of the SK Telecom T1, is good enough to beat stars. So KTFlash won WL, a really worthless competition. Yellow won some non-sanctioned competition too. KT is just a projection of Yellow: destined to always be close, but never quite enough. Win differential, so what? It doesn't mean anything other than that you can have your fluky players beat some teams in games they dont care that much about. You are forever Yellow cursed. SKT is the King of PL, and KT is the King of Silver. It is and will always be that way, forever. SKT has 2 bonjwas lending their brilliance to SKT, while you only have a few players who scraped off a silver or two in their SL career, overshadowed forever by SKT's greats.
Rofl, Jaedong killed our whole team literally over a year ago. Flash killed your whole team this season, a few months ago, in recent memory. He 3-0'd your PvT "master" like a chump in the MSL, Fantasy himself is scared of him. You are nothing before Flash.
And yeah, I'm glad you conceded that our supporting crew have "fluky" wins. Our supporting crew has more wins than your "supporting" crew which is supposedly made up of 2 aces players and the "revived" SKT zergs. Our ace is better than your whole team, our supporting crew is better than your whole team. You talk about us scraping silvers yet there you stand with Fantasy, the follower of stork in the silver dynasty, leading your team and your second ace, Best, with only one silver to his name. Get back to me when your precious SKT terrans can win a title in the past 5 years. KT's got 2.
You keep bringing up yellow. Saying silver silver silver. We won WL already. There's no perceived yellow curse. How's it feel knowing that the only chance you ever had of stopping KT -- yellow's curse -- is safely tucked away in the airforce? KT has something like a 90% winrate over SKT and now we can finally capitalize on it with yellow gone. Have fun with second place!
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On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent. Hyuk beat Jaedong, and that's the point: even a n00b like Hyuk, when given the blessing of the SK Telecom T1, is good enough to beat stars. So KTFlash won WL, a really worthless competition. Yellow won some non-sanctioned competition too. KT is just a projection of Yellow: destined to always be close, but never quite enough. Win differential, so what? It doesn't mean anything other than that you can have your fluky players beat some teams in games they dont care that much about. You are forever Yellow cursed. SKT is the King of PL, and KT is the King of Silver. It is and will always be that way, forever. SKT has 2 bonjwas lending their brilliance to SKT, while you only have a few players who scraped off a silver or two in their SL career, overshadowed forever by SKT's greats.
Good that you remember Flash rolling over SKT in the WL and around the same time beating BeSt in MSL as if he was some random chump.
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United States10328 Posts
the amount of tongue-in-cheek in this thread is sickening. and if it isn't tongue-in-cheek... well god help you!
just kidding these are only fanboy flame wars... owait! :D
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Why KT will win the Proleague? because they're KT that's why.
/thread.
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Whatever happens, I hope KT does not win 3-4 after being down 3-0. Anything but that order of outcome.
I bet KT knew they would be playing against SKT1, after they beat CJ. They will probably be well-prepared. I fear the sniping abilities of their zerg lineup and Stats.
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I don't think KT has much of a chance.
Forgg is anti-clutch, Flash has been solved and is the ONLY ace option, and Stats is pretty good I guess.
SKT players are playing their best since the last PL finals which they won.
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SKT is just too good right now. KT hasnt gotten much playtime, just practice, and SKT's wave of momentum is preparing to crash down on KT and an onslaught will ensue.
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Love the smack-talk going on this thread... can't wait for an epic write-up of this finals!
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This will be a very good match up. Coach Cho has been doing brilliantly in the PO and it will be interesting to see what KT comes up with.
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On July 16 2010 20:58 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2010 20:56 Kenpachi wrote:
Who does KT have?
Stats. Half a Flash. fOrGG. Oh lol
Seems like enough to me against half a Bisu...
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On August 03 2010 03:41 Cheeseburgered wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent. Hyuk beat Jaedong, and that's the point: even a n00b like Hyuk, when given the blessing of the SK Telecom T1, is good enough to beat stars. So KTFlash won WL, a really worthless competition. Yellow won some non-sanctioned competition too. KT is just a projection of Yellow: destined to always be close, but never quite enough. Win differential, so what? It doesn't mean anything other than that you can have your fluky players beat some teams in games they dont care that much about. You are forever Yellow cursed. SKT is the King of PL, and KT is the King of Silver. It is and will always be that way, forever. SKT has 2 bonjwas lending their brilliance to SKT, while you only have a few players who scraped off a silver or two in their SL career, overshadowed forever by SKT's greats. you take this really seriously huh?
It's obligatory trash talk. What good is a finals without some fanboyism?
On August 03 2010 05:42 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent. Hyuk beat Jaedong, and that's the point: even a n00b like Hyuk, when given the blessing of the SK Telecom T1, is good enough to beat stars. So KTFlash won WL, a really worthless competition. Yellow won some non-sanctioned competition too. KT is just a projection of Yellow: destined to always be close, but never quite enough. Win differential, so what? It doesn't mean anything other than that you can have your fluky players beat some teams in games they dont care that much about. You are forever Yellow cursed. SKT is the King of PL, and KT is the King of Silver. It is and will always be that way, forever. SKT has 2 bonjwas lending their brilliance to SKT, while you only have a few players who scraped off a silver or two in their SL career, overshadowed forever by SKT's greats. Rofl, Jaedong killed our whole team literally over a year ago. Flash killed your whole team this season, a few months ago, in recent memory. He 3-0'd your PvT "master" like a chump in the MSL, Fantasy himself is scared of him. You are nothing before Flash. And yeah, I'm glad you conceded that our supporting crew have "fluky" wins. Our supporting crew has more wins than your "supporting" crew which is supposedly made up of 2 aces players and the "revived" SKT zergs. Our ace is better than your whole team, our supporting crew is better than your whole team. You talk about us scraping silvers yet there you stand with Fantasy, the follower of stork in the silver dynasty, leading your team and your second ace, Best, with only one silver to his name. Get back to me when your precious SKT terrans can win a title in the past 5 years. KT's got 2. You keep bringing up yellow. Saying silver silver silver. We won WL already. There's no perceived yellow curse. How's it feel knowing that the only chance you ever had of stopping KT -- yellow's curse -- is safely tucked away in the airforce? KT has something like a 90% winrate over SKT and now we can finally capitalize on it with yellow gone. Have fun with second place!
Yellow won some pointless silly tournament too, that's the equivalent of WL. And we all know it wasn't KT that won WL, but Flash alone. A few lucky wins, maybe a few against SKT players with a few lucky plays, but nothing more.
SKT still has its old history of gold winners lendng us strength. The 2 bonjwas are still with us. But who really still is left in your team? All your 'stars' with barely a title or two to their name already left. Why did they leave? Because they knew the team would never be anything special, only a team of silver. Your ace may be better than a slumping team, but that's true with any ace, even among the weakest.
Terran titles? We have plenty among Boxer and Oov. But terrans are nothing special, it's the protoss titles that really count. The MSL is a true test of your ability, and our protoss revolutionary thrice triumphed over the competition.
SKTZergs are the support? Not a chance. We have the best protoss duo, the terran who is a fusion of two terran bonjwas, a backup terran killer, and after that a number of extra zergs that match your main lineup(in Bo5) in skill. KTFlash is so unbelievably shallow, that the only way you can hope to win anything is by fluking your way into an ace. And you only have one ace, we have three. Three people who will dismantle your beloved ace and any hopes you could have had of winning.
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On August 03 2010 08:07 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 03:41 Cheeseburgered wrote:On August 03 2010 03:37 Lightwip wrote:On August 03 2010 02:28 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Haha, how's it feel to be so wrong? So very wrong?
KT, after R1, had a higher win differential than any team has now besides KT itself.
And I like how you hold flash against us. Flash, by himself, has proven to be better than your whole team. Yellow is gone until Dec 30 -- there is no more second place curse as KT showed in Winner's league. Oh, Jaedong couldn't win against you? So you're going to practice Hyuk to snipe Flash? Good luck with that.
The playoffs were over before they started. Jaedong beat your entire team before, and SKT pummeled Jaedong. What does that say for your chances? Absolutely nonexistent. Hyuk beat Jaedong, and that's the point: even a n00b like Hyuk, when given the blessing of the SK Telecom T1, is good enough to beat stars. So KTFlash won WL, a really worthless competition. Yellow won some non-sanctioned competition too. KT is just a projection of Yellow: destined to always be close, but never quite enough. Win differential, so what? It doesn't mean anything other than that you can have your fluky players beat some teams in games they dont care that much about. You are forever Yellow cursed. SKT is the King of PL, and KT is the King of Silver. It is and will always be that way, forever. SKT has 2 bonjwas lending their brilliance to SKT, while you only have a few players who scraped off a silver or two in their SL career, overshadowed forever by SKT's greats. you take this really seriously huh? It's obligatory trash talk. What good is a finals without some fanboyism?
Flash has achieved enlightenment. He recently destroyed the best Zerg ever 3-0.
Sorry, when exactly did this happen?
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=korean&type=players&id=135&part=games&vs=424&league=any&map=any&from_year=2003&from_month=4&from_day=24&to_year=2010&to_month=2&to_day=5&action=Update
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On August 03 2010 07:19 b0lt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 03 2010 03:15 dukethegold wrote:
KT Protoss wanna be rivals with SKT Protoss, both ability and appearance wise.
+ Show Spoiler +The only game an SKT toss has won against a KT toss was in 2008
Well, I am glad that the KT tosses have something to be proud of! It's not like they have ever won any gold or silver in the leagues or took the proleague gold home or carried their own team or have a proven track record of being clutch when it counts in high pressure situations like, oh, the proleague final. Heck, they were once even considered to be amongst the weakest racial lineups amongst all teams. But I am glad that they were able to seize the opportunities when the SKT tosses are down and slumping to kick them in the backside.
This way, we can actually be convinced that KT toss is capable of providing us fans with some entertainment with good games! We can't possibly have all the winds blowing toward SKT toss' directions after all for the sake of the spirit of the competition. Bisu is too handsome as he is and Best is buff enough as he is. We must respect the chin.
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considering the great recent form of bisu and best, not even the most rabid kt fanboy could seriously argue that in the current form, violet and stats would be better than bisu and best. before day2 of the semifinals, bisu and best went for a combined 13-1 during the playoffs, carrying the whole team despite fantasy failing his regular set again and again and the skt zergs crushing down to their usual uselessness. and on day2 against stx, our tosses fail for the first time during the playoffs - and what happens? some other players step in and secure the win. now thats my definition of a clutch team, a team of winners.
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Wonder how many ace matches Best has won.
edit -- also I am literally sick at the redundant "KTFlash" assholes. Jesus christ have you not watched a single game of proleague this whole season? It would explain the absolute inundation of idiocy when people talk about KT like they know what's up. People want to pretend that KT is only Flash because the idea that there's a team behind the best player in the world scares them. They choose to leave out the fact that, while not as good a specialist as either Best or Bisu, Stats and Violet can actually play all three matchups without embarrassing themselves. They subtly forget that ForGG cruised his way into the MSL by crushing Free, a guy who has taken out both Flash and Fantasy in recent memory, coupled with solid TvT and a TvZ that Fantasy wishes he could have. They try to pretend that SKT Zergs are of some worth, some merit, because it's nice to think that they might have KT beat somewhere on the lineup, but the playoffs have shown that to be delusional.
They constantly try to downplay KT by bringing up age old curses and doing their absolute best to shove aside the team's accomplishments, knowing full well they'd be flaunting that WL title high if they were actually good enough to win it. We are the #1 seed, and for damn good reason. This season is ours, it has been ours since we fumbled at the finish line last year and needed to make a point -- and we did. We completely dominated you and spent half of the season playing subpar lineups and still came out well above the top. This is our house.
Keep living in your fantasy world, SKT fans, I'll be waiting over here in reality.
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Sanya12364 Posts
i think we're going to be in for some surprises. Flash will fall. Bisu will be humbled. Violet will cry.
and all of them will watch in awe as the Zergs will dominate the Grand Finals!
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From an objective standpoint, I think SKT are in trouble. If Flash faces T1's big three, he is a favorite. With one of them down SKT zerg or Canata will have to step up. But KT's supporting lineup is really solid and it will be very tough for any of those to take a game. Even if Canata or SKT zerg gets sacrificed to Flash, and the SKT trio wins, they will still need a win from the supporting lineup to avoid ace. I feel like ace is almost insta-win for KT.
What I'm saying is that SKT better have great match picking and snipe builds ready if they wanna a shot at KT. Luckily they've shown that in the past and Coach Park is brilliant, but KT is just such a powerhouse.
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