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OSL Ceremony Delayed to 21st
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=108862&db=issue | ||
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remag
Germany354 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
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Hyde
Australia14568 Posts
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
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mkchoi0801
Canada125 Posts
On July 15 2010 19:55 J1.au wrote: I'm glad that the OSL has resolved this, now it will be fair for everyone. How is this fair for everyone lol. OGN just bent over and let SKT manhandle them imo. Bad move, should've DQ'ed | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
On July 15 2010 19:54 Hyde wrote: Now it just looks like SKT can do whatever they want and everyone bends around them. They shouldn't have changed the dates. OGN "bend around them" because they have an all-important playoff match on Saturday, for which they had very short notice on the map order. They decided not to send their players, and OGN changed the date for the best of all parties involved. For me that's the best possible solution, both for the teams and for the fans. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:04 mkchoi0801 wrote: How is this fair for everyone lol. OGN just bent over and let SKT manhandle them imo. Bad move, should've DQ'ed You were an idiot in the other thread and you're an idiot here. For anyone else who thinks this is SKT getting their way unfairly: The first and foremost mistake was the maps being distributed for only 2 days of practice. As BW fans it is better for us to have this OSL ceremony delayed so all teams will have ample practice in addition to equal practice time. Again, it doesn't matter that SKT was the one who made the decision to withdraw. Any other team with 3 OSL qualifiers would have probably done the same. You can replace SKT with any other team and it still makes sense. Both SKT and the OSL people who decided to reverse their decision should be applauded. This is a win-win. User was warned for this post | ||
GTR
51446 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:06 Aesop wrote: OGN "bend around them" because they have an all-important playoff match on Saturday, for which they had very short notice on the map order. They decided not to send their players, and OGN changed the date for the best of all parties involved. For me that's the best possible solution, both for the teams and for the fans. So then if next week, we will see the winners of SKT/CJ and WMF/MBC decide to pull their players out because of that playoff match? Probably. Ridiculous how OGN have succumbed to a silly move from SKT. EDIT: Never mind, I just realised they moved it to a Wednesday. Still.... | ||
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:04 mkchoi0801 wrote: How is this fair for everyone lol. OGN just bent over and let SKT manhandle them imo. Bad move, should've DQ'ed SKT IS the epitome of e-sports, they have Boxer so they can do whatever the fuck they please. | ||
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Magic84
Russian Federation1381 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:10 GTR wrote: So then if next week, we will see the winners of SKT/CJ and WMF/MBC decide to pull their players out because of that playoff match? Probably. Ridiculous how OGN have succumbed to a silly move from SKT. EDIT: Never mind, I just realised they moved it to a Wednesday. Still.... CJ WMF MBC did not have 3 qualifying players for OSL. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:04 mkchoi0801 wrote: How is this fair for everyone lol. OGN just bent over and let SKT manhandle them imo. Bad move, should've DQ'ed Wtf? It was a clear problem, they simply did something to fix it by SKT's recommendation. | ||
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GTR
51446 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:11 Ack1027 wrote: CJ WMF MBC did not have 3 qualifying players for OSL. CJ have Effort and Hydra. WMF + MBC have Sea and Pure so if you add them all up it's four all-together. | ||
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:10 GTR wrote: So then if next week, we will see the winners of SKT/CJ and WMF/MBC decide to pull their players out because of that playoff match? Probably. Ridiculous how OGN have succumbed to a silly move from SKT. EDIT: Never mind, I just realised they moved it to a Wednesday. Still.... "Wednesday" was exactly what I wanted to tell you. Also, the day the maps are released highly matters. And as Ack noted, SKT1 has their three best players (at the moment) in that group selection. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
CJ has Effort and Hydra, WMF and MBC both have one. I don't know why you are grouping players together from different teams to get 5. <--- lol If SKT loses their important match [ in regards to rankings ] do you really think that's fair, as a fan of SC progaming that they are punished for having 3 of their team qualify for an OSL. What if CJ had 4 qualifying players and their next match could decide whether they advance in proleague or not...would you really say its fair then? This should be a no-brainer. | ||
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Aesop
Hungary11291 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:16 Aesop wrote: You also have to consider that SKT basically did CJ a FAVOR by forcing the move. Effort and Hydra also have additional time to prepare now. Agreed. Anyway I'm done with the topic and happy how this turned out. It's rare in progaming to see organizers do the right thing given an unforeseen circumstance. On another note, the team fanboyism on this site is really disgusting. Who gives a fuck what team it is, try to use logic some time. If it was CJ doing this, lots of people in this thread and the other one wouldn't be saying anything or defending CJ to the death. Writer's bias is really apparent on TL. | ||
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yarkO
Canada810 Posts
As for the issue/resolution, everything seems pretty fair. They are covering an unpredicted problem, without causing that much of a hassle. I'm sure if it was that big of an issue with the other teams, another solution would have been found. | ||
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kmdarkmaster
France188 Posts
All hail the emperor ! | ||
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cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:12 GTR wrote: CJ have Effort and Hydra. WMF + MBC have Sea and Pure so if you add them all up it's four all-together. LOL, let's also get Flash, Jaedong and Hiya... 7! OMFG 7 | ||
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GTR
51446 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:26 cybertopo wrote: LOL, let's also get Flash, Jaedong and Hiya... 7! OMFG 7 Why are you being condescending when I've already 'lost' the argument. Honestly now I don't really give a shit about this. Whatever makes SK execs rolling. | ||
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emucxg
Finland4559 Posts
Calm down guys, OGN states that they delayed ceremony because of bad timing with proleague PO, NOT because of SKT. | ||
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SmiLeSE
Sweden58 Posts
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GTR
51446 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:33 emucxg wrote: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=108862&db=issue Calm down guys, OGN states that they delayed ceremony because of bad timing with proleague PO, NOT because of SKT. There is no doubt denying however SKT's press release was the major factor in their decision. If it were really because of the PL Playoffs, they would have announced this on Wednesday or something, not 24 hours before the initially scheduled date. | ||
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cybertopo
Spain525 Posts
But I seriously think this is the best decision for every side, I don't care that the ceremony got delayed, if that is going to let us see better games in PO, so be it. | ||
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De4ngus
United States6533 Posts
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disciple
9070 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:35 GTR wrote: There is no doubt denying however SKT's press release was the major factor in their decision. If it were really because of the PL Playoffs, they would have announced this on Wednesday or something, not 24 hours before the initially scheduled date. You took a day off from work and filled the fridge with beer for the group ceremony ? Why are you so frustrated. The decision is just common sense | ||
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GTR
51446 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:42 disciple wrote: You took a day off from work and filled the fridge with beer for the group ceremony ? Why are you so frustrated. The decision is just common sense possibly =] | ||
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konadora
Singapore66160 Posts
Now ALL teams benefit. Isn't this a good thing? Don't see why people are complaining here. | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:40 De4ngus wrote: Awww, so OGN gave in. Oh well, can't wait to watch SKT lose to CJ :D you'll have to wait until after playoffs | ||
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darkemperor
Turkey725 Posts
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
On July 15 2010 21:08 konadora wrote: well, look at it this way. Now ALL teams benefit. Isn't this a good thing? Don't see why people are complaining here. Pretty much this. Seriously, it's just a ceremony. Moving the ceremony to another day so that players from ALL teams can prepare better for the play-offs is a brilliant move. It's done for the sake of every player who will participate in the first round of the play-offs, not just T1's. So yea like someone mentioned above, T1 has basically done CJ (as well as FOX and MBC) a favor. | ||
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Freezard
Sweden1011 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On July 15 2010 21:40 Freezard wrote: Wow talk about dumbass move by OGN to schedule a ceremony that very few cares about right before an epic playoffs match that only happens once a year. Good they got it together and changed the date though, OGN are too quality to make such mistakes. I care about group ceremony very much.... | ||
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Black Gun
Germany4482 Posts
more than about the playoff match? | ||
Waxangel
United States33376 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:33 emucxg wrote: http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=108862&db=issue Calm down guys, OGN states that they delayed ceremony because of bad timing with proleague PO, NOT because of SKT. you're seriously not taking that statement at face value are you? | ||
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supernovamaniac
United States3046 Posts
On July 15 2010 22:21 Waxangel wrote: you're seriously not taking that statement at face value are you? I hope not. We know the major reason why it was changed: SKT pulled out from the ceremony, and CJ stated "OGN scheduling something like the group ceremony right before PO is just BS" Although, it does say that OGN contacted every single team about the rescheduling, so I don't see additional problems here, besides bashing at SKT1. | ||
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blahman3344
United States2015 Posts
well i'm glad that they resolved the issue. Yes it may have been a lame move by SKT, but the fact that the date changed saved a lot of hours of practice for not just SKT, but also CJ and whatever other teams are gonna be playing between that time. | ||
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lone_hydra
Canada1460 Posts
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swanized
Canada2480 Posts
good decision by OGN...awfull planning by OGN/KesPA. lame decision by SKT though | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On July 15 2010 23:17 swanized wrote: looks like I will be rooting for CJ tommorow. good decision by OGN...awfull planning by OGN/KesPA. lame decision by SKT though What kind of logic is this? If you accept that the original schedule was bad planning by OGN, and that changing the schedule was a good decision by OGN - then wouldn't the move that prompted this change of decision be a good decision too? Plus I like that SKT is willing to stick its neck out to get a reasonable practice time for its players to show top games (and of course for the team to perform well during the playoffs). | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
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Ursadon-n-Pals
United States928 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On July 15 2010 23:48 NeverGG wrote: :D I don't care about the politics. This is great news for me because don't have to go tomorrow now. More preparation time FTW. youre a t1 fan too lol | ||
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
I assure you, if this happens to some other team, I'll join the bandwagon to bash at that team too just because you ignorant people bashed at T1 to knock some sense out of ya. | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
SKT1 already said that they would agree to whatever groups OGN put them in. Should have left it at that. I understand and sympathize for reasoning behind the move but schedules are always tight in SC for top players. | ||
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HeadhunteR
Argentina1258 Posts
to all the fanboys out there stop being such crybabies the ones being attacked and the ones who are defending the attacks... | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On July 15 2010 23:48 NeverGG wrote: :D I don't care about the politics. This is great news for me because don't have to go tomorrow now. More preparation time FTW. Oh boy! Does this mean we can see more progamers awkwardly speaking English? :D | ||
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maneatingshoe
Canada484 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:19 matjlav wrote: Oh boy! Does this mean we can see more progamers awkwardly speaking English? :D PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE The ones of violet were halarious, too bad he's not gonna be there this time. It's awesome to get them to give a shot at english. especially "I LUB TEEMLIKID" | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:04 mkchoi0801 wrote: How is this fair for everyone lol. OGN just bent over and let SKT manhandle them imo. Bad move, should've DQ'ed How is it a bad move when it's clear their schedule was retarded? Maps are revealed 2 days before playoff, and they have to spend a day doing this shit instead of practicing/preparing sniping builds. | ||
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
On July 15 2010 20:12 GTR wrote: CJ have Effort and Hydra. WMF + MBC have Sea and Pure so if you add them all up it's four all-together. CJ has Movie, Skyhigh, Iris, and Snow in their lineups. Wemade has Baby, Shine, Roro, Mind, and Midas. MBC has Light, Hyun, Pusan, Saint, and Tyson. All these guys can snipe shit up, and they dont have group selections. SKT has 3 players, all of them could be targets for sniping, Best, who could also be a target for sniping, and 3 lolzergs. And you want them to skip a day (out of the available 2) to do this? | ||
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ggrrg
Bulgaria2716 Posts
However, I must say that it feels like SKT extorted them to do so... | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
Seems like this decision benefits everyone... | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
The lack of Bisu and Fantasy (and Hyuk) would make people sad. | ||
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Count9
China10928 Posts
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NeverGG
United Kingdom5399 Posts
On July 16 2010 02:19 matjlav wrote: Oh boy! Does this mean we can see more progamers awkwardly speaking English? :D Possibly, I'll see how we do for time. I'm more likely to do photoshoots if they dress up, but since OGN has been boring c*nts for the last two seasons videos are way more likely. I'll try and do as many people who haven't been done as possible. | ||
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29 fps
United States5724 Posts
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QuickStriker
United States3694 Posts
On July 16 2010 14:30 29 fps wrote: So now it's on a Wednesday... ok. there's a playoff match the following day. So... will SKT skip again if they win? No, because if SKT wins, they won the instant card road to Grand Finals. Seriously, who else can potentially stop SKT if they win? FOX? MBC? STX? I'll say KT has best shot but not a lot... | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
They've played a year straight to get to the playoffs and have a chance to repeat as champions. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On July 16 2010 03:18 ggrrg wrote: Great decision by OGN. This will be beneficial for all teams that have to play SPL playoffs R1. However, I must say that it feels like SKT extorted them to do so... Protest and extortion aren't the same thing. | ||
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