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Bob300
Profile Joined April 2010
United States505 Posts
July 14 2010 18:15 GMT
#21
I agree, also lol at the octopus picture at the end. CJ will win it all.
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Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
July 14 2010 18:19 GMT
#22
It's going to be a close one whatever happens. But I agree that the one that wins this ought to win it all.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33643 Posts
July 14 2010 18:24 GMT
#23
To be honest, I think CJ overachieves to get this far. It's really all to Coach's Cho's credit that they do well. CJ's pretty much the swiss army knife of pro-game teams, with a bunch of good specialists but not one amazing player. Coach Cho always seems to get the matchups he wants though, or at least enough of the time to rack up a good win rate. Seriously, a player like Skyhigh would find himself so poorly utilized on a team like OZ or MBCGame. On the other hand, an asset like Shine would become twice as useful in Coach Cho's hands.

I think Coach Cho will get CJ the matchups they need, and take their games 4-2, 4-3
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
July 14 2010 18:40 GMT
#24
On July 15 2010 03:10 Megalisk wrote:

An almost 100% Bisu still has no chance against EffOrt. Maybe a 50% chance against movie with his crappy PvP..


ANYWAYS CJ FIGHTING!!~

LOL
Nicely written, but more or less the same fanboy crap (except the part about their coach who is indeed pretty good) as last year... remember how CJ was eliminated by "Jaedong Oz", the so-called least deep team in Proleague ?
I'm pretty confident that they won't beat SKT1, and the only team against whom they are favored would be MBC, who will probably lose their match.
But hey, almost anything can happen I guess. I just hope MBC and CJ lose, too much blind fanboyism on TL...
PS : I love you Iris !
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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 18:41:20
July 14 2010 18:40 GMT
#25
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129365
CJ is a pretty good team, but they really don't have what it takes to go so far. They have to snipe successfully. I wish they didn't have to play SKT yet, but their players are rather bad at their weak matchups.
(Z)Hyuk/(Z)s2>(P)Snow, (T)sKyHigh, (P)Movie/(Z)EffOrt with luck((P)Movie sux atm, (Z)EffOrt can potentially get sniped)
(P)Bisu> any CJ player
(Z)EffOrt> (P)BeSt, maybe (T)Fantasy, Zergs, (T)Canata
(T)Fantasy> (P)Movie, (T)Iris, any sniper if he gets lucky
(P)BeSt>(P)Movie, (T)sKyHigh, (P)Snow, (T)Iris
It really depends on the matchups. This can be close or it can be 1-sided in SKT's favor. SKT has a better ace, if it comes that far.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 18:49:45
July 14 2010 18:46 GMT
#26
I approve of this thread.


Great write up, SKT will be a very tough opponent but I have faith as always. All I know for sure is it's gonna be exciting

On July 15 2010 03:40 corumjhaelen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2010 03:10 Megalisk wrote:

An almost 100% Bisu still has no chance against EffOrt. Maybe a 50% chance against movie with his crappy PvP..


ANYWAYS CJ FIGHTING!!~

LOL
Nicely written, but more or less the same fanboy crap (except the part about their coach who is indeed pretty good) as last year... remember how CJ was eliminated by "Jaedong Oz", the so-called least deep team in Proleague ?
I'm pretty confident that they won't beat SKT1, and the only team against whom they are favored would be MBC, who will probably lose their match.
But hey, almost anything can happen I guess. I just hope MBC and CJ lose, too much blind fanboyism on TL...
PS : I love you Iris !


Megalisk was obviously.. not quite 100% serious, so I dont see any blind fanboyism.
Posts like yours really annoy me though. Always this negativity against other Teamliquidians and other teams. Why cant you just root FOR your team instead of always rooting against others.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 18:49:48
July 14 2010 18:49 GMT
#27
lol Hopefully. Although I hope STX or WeMade win the Proleauge Grand Final, I think Cho's boys have a better chance.

I think CJ has more active supporters on TL than any other team (including SKT1 )
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
July 14 2010 18:50 GMT
#28
For those people that said there is 100% of Bisu losing to Effort, you're indirectly saying that Jaedong, too, will lose 100% of the time to Effort. Bisu may not be completely back at his full strength yet, but it is pretty safe to say that he's atleast 90% back. Plus, he raped all the zergs he faced recently, so I was say Bisu is actually favored to win against Effort. And for those of you saying he can't PvP, he lost up front to Pusan because of army position, but even so, Pusan had a huge BO advantage because he contained Bisu a bit on this ramp. The other games, theres no way Bisu can overcome the BO advantage, such as 1 gate dt vs 3 gate goons...
Bisu is the man
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:13:28
July 14 2010 19:12 GMT
#29
On July 15 2010 03:50 renzy wrote:
For those people that said there is 100% of Bisu losing to Effort, you're indirectly saying that Jaedong, too, will lose 100% of the time to Effort. Bisu may not be completely back at his full strength yet, but it is pretty safe to say that he's atleast 90% back. Plus, he raped all the zergs he faced recently, so I was say Bisu is actually favored to win against Effort. And for those of you saying he can't PvP, he lost up front to Pusan because of army position, but even so, Pusan had a huge BO advantage because he contained Bisu a bit on this ramp. The other games, theres no way Bisu can overcome the BO advantage, such as 1 gate dt vs 3 gate goons...


Wat. While I agree that Effort is not 100% to win against Bisu, even if he was it wouldn't mean Jaedong would lose to Effort 100% of the time--they're different matchups.

Anyways, I'm really excited for CJ vs SKT and I think they could potentially be some of the most exciting games of the playoffs. I especially want to see Fantasy vs Snow and Bisu vs Effort! I disagree that CJ is the deepest team in the Proleague, though. To me, Wemade is the deepest team by far.
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:26:15
July 14 2010 19:24 GMT
#30
CJ vs SKT is the finals. from there on, the winner of that will be crowned 09-10 PL champs
CJ i believe!
even with Bisu's epic comeback, he doesnt have a chance against EffOrt.
Only Terrans can kill EffOrt
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:28:00
July 14 2010 19:25 GMT
#31
On July 15 2010 03:24 Waxangel wrote:
To be honest, I think CJ overachieves to get this far. It's really all to Coach's Cho's credit that they do well. CJ's pretty much the swiss army knife of pro-game teams, with a bunch of good specialists but not one amazing player. Coach Cho always seems to get the matchups he wants though, or at least enough of the time to rack up a good win rate. Seriously, a player like Skyhigh would find himself so poorly utilized on a team like OZ or MBCGame. On the other hand, an asset like Shine would become twice as useful in Coach Cho's hands.

I think Coach Cho will get CJ the matchups they need, and take their games 4-2, 4-3

This.

Having a team of one-matchup players is not depth. CJ just makes it look like it is because Coach Cho is the most badass coach in all of Starcraft.

On July 15 2010 03:40 Lightwip wrote:
(Z)EffOrt> (P)BeSt, maybe (T)Fantasy, Zergs, (T)Canata
(T)Fantasy> (P)Movie, (T)Iris, any sniper if he gets lucky

I would say Effort v Fantasy is map dependent. Fantasy will fall apart if he's forced to play bio, but Effort plays relatively poorly against mech, so on a map where Fantasy can mech comfortably, it could work out in SKT's favor.
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FiRewater
Profile Joined April 2010
United States56 Posts
July 14 2010 19:34 GMT
#32
I wish Savior was still playing with CJ. He made it just that much more exciting.
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
July 14 2010 19:34 GMT
#33
Problem with this write-up...

They aren't beating SKT1!!!

Best, Bisu, Fantasy, Hyuk, S2, sOO, and of course BOXER!!!

Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:36:30
July 14 2010 19:35 GMT
#34
ha, I thought you were going to quote Iris saying that "this is our chance to win 1st place in the proleague."

also "CJ has the most starleague finalists"... false? KT: flash, forgg. SKT: (boxer/oov), bisu, best, fantasy. FOX: Nada, Mind (oh dang Midas didn't...). STX: calm, kal.
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
July 14 2010 19:37 GMT
#35
oh boy last picture said it all

in paul we believe .

octopus forever
Trust 神教教主 FlaSh | Believe 火心 EffOrt
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
July 14 2010 19:39 GMT
#36
ahh i love these articles, can't wait for the rest of them!

the skt one last year was fucking hilarious, gogo cj!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:41:01
July 14 2010 19:40 GMT
#37
On July 15 2010 04:35 ]343[ wrote:
ha, I thought you were going to quote Iris saying that "this is our chance to win 1st place in the proleague."

also "CJ has the most starleague finalists"... false? KT: flash, forgg. SKT: (boxer/oov), bisu, best, fantasy. FOX: Nada, Mind (oh dang Midas didn't...). STX: calm, kal.


Still makes it a tie with SKT though (unless you count boxer/oov). But since this is about the match vs SKT you're kinda right ^^... also boxer is still a player so I guess he should count

Maybe he ignored that we don't have savior (or kwanro ^^) anymore
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jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
July 14 2010 19:41 GMT
#38
Haha I love these threads (they were so awesome last season)

CJ has been in decent form lately- they were playing like trash a couple weeks ago (when they lost to SKT) but it seems to me - as someone who isn't a huge fan of either team - that CJ has the depth to potentially beat SKT.
"For you biting zealots, here's a quote" - Lauryn Hill
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
July 14 2010 19:42 GMT
#39
Cj is like the Detroit red wings of Starcraft they have a huge fan base and I just dont get it. I dont hate em, but I hope they lose > I want mbc to win just a more likeable squad in my opinion
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7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-14 19:46:25
July 14 2010 19:45 GMT
#40
On July 15 2010 04:42 bjornkavist wrote:
Cj is like the Detroit red wings of Starcraft they have a huge fan base and I just dont get it. I dont hate em, but I hope they lose > I want mbc to win just a more likeable squad in my opinion


haha funny that you say that, I havent followed NHL in about...not sure, but probably over 10 years, back then I was a detroit red wings fan :D
Even bought a Jersey/tricot (which word do you use?)
Keep in mind this was a time without internet meaning there was no way to watch the actual games, all I did was check the results on the TV videotext.


Later I also became a Colorado Avalanche (?) though... I think because I thought the tricots were pretty ^^
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