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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#41
On July 04 2010 07:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 07:33 Nytefish wrote:
If Kal is finding PvT very hard, PvZ must be utterly impossible for him. ~.~


Terran's just imba, the perceived PvT imbalance is non-existent ~.~


absolutely agree. terrans say toss is imba because toss manages to go 50% on some maps.

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dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 04 2010 10:28 GMT
#42
Well, Kal's journey stops here.
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5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
July 04 2010 11:10 GMT
#43
Jaedong, imho, has been looking almost invincible against any protoss. Take his game against Tyson as an example: perfect muta timings, perfect templar snipe, immaculate storm dodging, and not considering that tyson has strong PvZ... The fact that this isn't a Bo5 but just a Bo1 (or 2) probably raised kal's chances from 1% to maybe 3%, another words, it would be a major upset if he won.

The fact is that you have the strongest zerg in the world playing a matchup that is inherently favoured towards zerg (definitely not saying zerg is imba, but that ZvP is stacked in favour of zerg in the same way TvZ is to terran), a player who has stated before that he "has done very well agaimst Protoss in practice" and who stated umabiguously that "I never considered the possibility of losing a ZvP" (source: hwaseung vs CJ winner's interview). This makes me believe Kal's odds are slim at best.
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 04 2010 11:13 GMT
#44
3rd rank of Kespa? pfft.
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 17:38:29
July 04 2010 17:30 GMT
#45
On July 04 2010 16:22 BPCoffee wrote:
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On July 04 2010 12:13 matjlav wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~


Well, if you were just looking for another opportunity to bitch about Terran, you shouldn't have quoted the post you did, because it didn't even claim that PvT is imbalanced. Just sayin'.


I think it's perfectly fine for a Translator should be given opportunity to express their opinion in a very small T/N column since they freaking did the work and translated something for free. They deserve it, wouldn't you say? Just because it offends your point of view doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to say it


Hmmm... I think I'll reuse some old material to respond to this one.

On July 04 2010 12:13 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 08:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~


Well, if you were just looking for another opportunity to bitch about Terran say something generic about how someone should be allowed to express their opinion, you shouldn't have quoted the post you did, because it didn't even claim that PvT is imbalanced their opinion was offensive or that they shouldn't be allowed to express it. Just sayin'.


But just so I can make it stupidly clear in case you just decide to read what you want to read again: I don't think that PvT is significantly imbalanced. It just seems to me that the motif of "People say P>T, but really P=T" is something that CSheep constantly spouts, and it's annoying that he does it even when no one was saying anything suggesting that P>T. I really think you should just let it go, or at least only argue about it when there's someone around to disagree with you.

But I do really appreciate your translating <3 I'm just a terran MBC fanboy that gets upset when you complain about Terran.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
July 04 2010 19:35 GMT
#46
I like Kal but I don't see him getting past JD.
nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
July 04 2010 19:49 GMT
#47
Group F winner? Light won tho....
Jaedong fucking beast
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