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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 03 2010 20:54 GMT
#1
Kal!

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It’s your sixth time in the MSL Ro16.
-Even though it was a difficult path to advance, I’m glad to have been able to. Recently I’ve been slumping, and I think this can at least help the situation a bit, which is good.

You wanted to use DTs to end the first game.
-The individual leagues conflicted with the SPL schedule, so I didn’t have too much time to practice. I just played as if I was playing an in-house. Good thing the strategy worked well.

The winner’s game turned into a long game, but unfortunately you lost.
-It feels like I gave the game away. My decision making wasn’t good, and in the early game I didn’t have a good unit composition. Feels like I rushed things. I kept rushing things, and it feels like I threw away the win. I should’ve played more calmly, but unfortunately I didn’t do so.

You also played a long game in the last game against MVP.
-It’s a map that the Terran has an easy time controlling [T/N: Terran imba] I predicted it would be a difficult match, but the reality was even more painful than I imagined. Also, the opponent changed his style before, and even prepared new strategies. It felt the game was very hard.

You’re the first Protoss to advance this season, is it because of the maps are disadvantaged for Ps?
-PvT is really hard to play. These maps are way too easy for Terran [T/N: Terran imba] If it’s a map like Match Point, Protoss has the initiative, but on Odd Eye and Triathlon, the Terran has the control of everything, it feels like we have to wait for a Terran to mess up to win. Like in today’s situation, it was because I was lucky in the final battle. The opponent pushed out too hurriedly, which led to the situation. If he was more calm and just stayed in the center of the map, it would’ve been hard for me.

Your Ro16 opponent is your rival Jaedong.
-From my perspective, I really wanted to advance as the 2-0 winner, but since it’s already like this, this time, I will try my best to prepare, meet the challenge, and strive to advance. I’ve lost too much in this period, so I really want to win once. If I think like this I think I can play well. Luckily it’s not the Ro4 or the finals, since I’m meeting him early, I will beat him and then advance to the bigger stages.

Your record against Jaedong is 3-13, with 9 straight losses.
-Even though I knew the record was very tilted, I didn’t know there was a 9 loss streak. It seems like I’m just food for Jaedong [laugh] I don’t want to contribute too many more wins to him, it’s time for me to win now.

Goal this season?
-The first stage goal is the Ro8. I just want to focus on the games in front of me, and I won’t look too far ahead, and I don’t have any plans. Because a difficult opponent is right in front of me, I will put everything into preparing for this upcoming game.

Last words?
-Recently the team has been losing a lot, I know the fans are worried about this. We will work hard to break the slump soon. I also want to thank the teammates who helped me practice on these new maps.

+ Show Spoiler +
No Light. Chinese person didn’t translate it, and even if she did, I hate Light, so =P


Image and original Korean from fomos.kr

http://www.playsc.com/bbs/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=204084

TranslatorBaa!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
July 03 2010 20:59 GMT
#2
ouch later Kal your eliminated in the RO16 your not beating Jaedong
When I think of something else, something will go here
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
July 03 2010 21:00 GMT
#3
Ty for this!
Jaedong fighting! :D
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 21:08:45
July 03 2010 21:08 GMT
#4
omg wtf kal vs JD AGAIN in the MSL.

goddamnit
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nath
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1788 Posts
July 03 2010 21:13 GMT
#5
LEE
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InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
July 03 2010 21:26 GMT
#6
I was going to thank you, but then... damn you hater!!
I'll probably gonna read this one over and over again the rest of the night, cause I won't be able to sleep without Light's interview and that's your fault. Argh =3
Warrior Madness
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 21:27:55
July 03 2010 21:27 GMT
#7
Geez.... Kal, as much as I like you I wouldn't bank on on your winning over JD. He is 21 wins 1 loss in his last 22 ZvP games (A large chunk of those wins are wins over you as well). That's approaching Oov-like dominance.
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O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
July 03 2010 21:36 GMT
#8
CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP CHEEP
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 03 2010 21:41 GMT
#9
I'm sad that snow didn't advance, but he wouldn't have stood a chance against Jaedong anyways, much less kal lol.
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 03 2010 22:19 GMT
#10
LOL Light is truly worthy of the name "invisible terran." Even his interviews are invisible. What a baller.

Poor Kal, he has to play Jaedong again too. Sucks for him.
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
July 03 2010 22:24 GMT
#11
If kal could just avoid flash and jaedong, he'd be like... semi finalist.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
July 03 2010 22:25 GMT
#12
Lol...food for Jaedong, you can do it Kal!
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Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
July 03 2010 22:32 GMT
#13
again against JD? .. Kal is toast..

feel sorry for him
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
July 03 2010 22:33 GMT
#14
If Kal is finding PvT very hard, PvZ must be utterly impossible for him. ~.~
No I'm never serious.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 03 2010 22:37 GMT
#15
On July 04 2010 07:33 Nytefish wrote:
If Kal is finding PvT very hard, PvZ must be utterly impossible for him. ~.~


Terran's just imba, the perceived PvT imbalance is non-existent ~.~
TranslatorBaa!
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
July 03 2010 22:43 GMT
#16
I like your spoiler, OP. I feel the same way. Hilarious.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 03 2010 22:45 GMT
#17
It really sucks for Kal having to play Jaedong SOOOO unlucky.
He's Kespa's no3 ranked player at the moment after some stellar results but despite his PvZ being very good when it matters... I still see Jaedong winning,
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
July 03 2010 22:52 GMT
#18
why does Kal have to play JD anyway. I thought MSL matchups are choosen by KESPA ranking (highest KESPA ranked vs lowest etc)?
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
July 03 2010 23:01 GMT
#19
On July 04 2010 07:52 Nesto wrote:
why does Kal have to play JD anyway. I thought MSL matchups are choosen by KESPA ranking (highest KESPA ranked vs lowest etc)?


thats from the ro8
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 03 2010 23:04 GMT
#20
Whatever happens we'll see a top player ejected from the tournament..... DOH!
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
InTheFade
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1721 Posts
July 03 2010 23:04 GMT
#21
It's good, I think. If Kal avoided Jaedong, he'd just get completely rolled by some other good player eventually like he always does.
... Knowmsayin'?
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-03 23:25:40
July 03 2010 23:24 GMT
#22
On July 04 2010 07:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 07:33 Nytefish wrote:
If Kal is finding PvT very hard, PvZ must be utterly impossible for him. ~.~


Terran's just imba, the perceived PvT imbalance is non-existent ~.~


I'm not sure if you are, but are you honestly making the argument that TvP is easier than ZvP?

Honestly, I don't understand how you manage to be a dedicated BW fan when you are so convinced that the entire game is rigged in favor of one race.

Anyway, Kal is fucked against Jaedong. I would give him a <5% chance to win.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
July 03 2010 23:28 GMT
#23
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~
TranslatorBaa!
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
July 03 2010 23:30 GMT
#24
Interesting, an interview with MSL group F winner without the interview with the actual MSL group F winner lol.

Anyway, Kal really has some shitty luck...serves him well. Don't like PvT on these maps, eh? Have some PvZ instead!
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 03 2010 23:37 GMT
#25
Your record against Jaedong is 3-13, with 9 straight losses.
-Even though I knew the record was very tilted, I didn’t know there was a 9 loss streak. It seems like I’m just food for Jaedong [laugh] I don’t want to contribute too many more wins to him, it’s time for me to win now.

Bai bai Kal.
CSheep Terran hate.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 04 2010 01:26 GMT
#26
I think it's more like, on open maps, Z>P>T, and on closed maps, T>P>Z, due to the necessity of flanking in ZvP, ZvT, and PvT.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 04 2010 01:29 GMT
#27
Poor Light. Probably one of the top 3 TvZers and no one ever seems to care about him. Seriously, he won 18 out of his last 19 TvZ matches, including wins against JD, Calm, Action, Effort and Kwanro.

Glad he made it out of the group 2-0 instead of 2-1 because he could pose a serious threat to JD.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
July 04 2010 01:52 GMT
#28
On July 04 2010 10:26 jalstar wrote:
I think it's more like, on open maps, Z>P>T, and on closed maps, T>P>Z, due to the necessity of flanking in ZvP, ZvT, and PvT.

Open maps are not really favorable for ZvT if Terran goes bio because it is easier for the Terran to dodge lurkers and dark swarms. On the other hand, closed maps are bad for ZvT if the terran goes mech since tanks become much more effective.

Basically, the Terran can always make the map favor him in ZvT.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 02:16:26
July 04 2010 02:10 GMT
#29
On July 04 2010 10:52 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 10:26 jalstar wrote:
I think it's more like, on open maps, Z>P>T, and on closed maps, T>P>Z, due to the necessity of flanking in ZvP, ZvT, and PvT.

Open maps are not really favorable for ZvT if Terran goes bio because it is easier for the Terran to dodge lurkers and dark swarms. On the other hand, closed maps are bad for ZvT if the terran goes mech since tanks become much more effective.

Basically, the Terran can always make the map favor him in ZvT.

Not really. Long rush distances are always good for Zerg, and the correct mix of choke points and open spaces will favor the Zerg.

If Terran has to move through an open center, mech is clunky, particularly if the third or fourth base is impossible to hold without taking a wide spread in the open center. However, if there are chokes/high ground defending the mouth of each base, a couple lurkers can hold bio in those locations, mitigating the benefit of open spaces.

I think Eye of the Swarm serves as a solid example. So might Heartbreak Ridge.

Also, a map with features that favor bio (and screw mech), but with a main/nat extremely vulnerable to mutalisk harass, may favor Zerg.
My strategy is to fork people.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
July 04 2010 02:46 GMT
#30
Actually, I am pretty impressed that Light made it out. He stated that he had no confidence in anything other than TvZ nowadays and he finished the group 2-0.
TacToSs
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia330 Posts
July 04 2010 02:52 GMT
#31
Lol at the terran imba xD I feel for Kal ]=
Jaedong <3
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
July 04 2010 03:09 GMT
#32
LOL poor Kal. Always has to play Jaedong.
GANDHISAUCE
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 03:14:18
July 04 2010 03:13 GMT
#33
On July 04 2010 08:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~


Well, if you were just looking for another opportunity to bitch about Terran, you shouldn't have quoted the post you did, because it didn't even claim that PvT is imbalanced. Just sayin'.
BPCoffee
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
27 Posts
July 04 2010 07:22 GMT
#34
On July 04 2010 12:13 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 08:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~


Well, if you were just looking for another opportunity to bitch about Terran, you shouldn't have quoted the post you did, because it didn't even claim that PvT is imbalanced. Just sayin'.


I think it's perfectly fine for a Translator should be given opportunity to express their opinion in a very small T/N column since they freaking did the work and translated something for free. They deserve it, wouldn't you say? Just because it offends your point of view doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to say it
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
July 04 2010 07:58 GMT
#35
I think kal's problem is that he isn't very good at all at changing his play style towards his opponent. He always tries to just play his own style every game and while it works a lot of the time, when a player plays a good counter style to his he can't win. Like watching effort vs kal, effort completely changed his playing style to counter kal very well while kal just played the same style he always plays.

it's doubly bad for him vs jaedong since jaedong already has a style that counters kal easily.

BUT ONE DAY HE WILL LEARN TO ADAPT HIS PLAY STYLE TOWARDS HIS OPPONENT AND THEN HE WILL BE WINNING STARLEAGUES YALL
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
July 04 2010 08:10 GMT
#36
ro16 Kal fighting!
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
July 04 2010 08:12 GMT
#37
Hi I'm Kal and I have to play Jaedong every MSL.
Remember Violet.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 04 2010 08:14 GMT
#38
On July 04 2010 17:12 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Hi I'm Kal and I have to play Jaedong every MSL.

He'll make it out against Jaedong. Right after Idra qualifies for a SL.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
July 04 2010 08:18 GMT
#39
well at least this means that kal will get out of the MSL early enough to be able to focus on the OSL more lol
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Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
July 04 2010 10:02 GMT
#40
STX Soul GooJila. I believe.
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 04 2010 10:22 GMT
#41
On July 04 2010 07:37 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 07:33 Nytefish wrote:
If Kal is finding PvT very hard, PvZ must be utterly impossible for him. ~.~


Terran's just imba, the perceived PvT imbalance is non-existent ~.~


absolutely agree. terrans say toss is imba because toss manages to go 50% on some maps.

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Kal: I met my goal. I made it into the ro16 so I'm happy. I will now roll over and die.
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dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 04 2010 10:28 GMT
#42
Well, Kal's journey stops here.
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5unrise
Profile Joined May 2009
New Zealand646 Posts
July 04 2010 11:10 GMT
#43
Jaedong, imho, has been looking almost invincible against any protoss. Take his game against Tyson as an example: perfect muta timings, perfect templar snipe, immaculate storm dodging, and not considering that tyson has strong PvZ... The fact that this isn't a Bo5 but just a Bo1 (or 2) probably raised kal's chances from 1% to maybe 3%, another words, it would be a major upset if he won.

The fact is that you have the strongest zerg in the world playing a matchup that is inherently favoured towards zerg (definitely not saying zerg is imba, but that ZvP is stacked in favour of zerg in the same way TvZ is to terran), a player who has stated before that he "has done very well agaimst Protoss in practice" and who stated umabiguously that "I never considered the possibility of losing a ZvP" (source: hwaseung vs CJ winner's interview). This makes me believe Kal's odds are slim at best.
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 04 2010 11:13 GMT
#44
3rd rank of Kespa? pfft.
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matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-04 17:38:29
July 04 2010 17:30 GMT
#45
On July 04 2010 16:22 BPCoffee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 12:13 matjlav wrote:
On July 04 2010 08:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~


Well, if you were just looking for another opportunity to bitch about Terran, you shouldn't have quoted the post you did, because it didn't even claim that PvT is imbalanced. Just sayin'.


I think it's perfectly fine for a Translator should be given opportunity to express their opinion in a very small T/N column since they freaking did the work and translated something for free. They deserve it, wouldn't you say? Just because it offends your point of view doesn't mean he shouldn't be allowed to say it


Hmmm... I think I'll reuse some old material to respond to this one.

On July 04 2010 12:13 matjlav wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2010 08:28 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
No I'm saying PvT is a fair matchup.

I'm convinced because it -is- rigged cause of Terran imba ~.~


Well, if you were just looking for another opportunity to bitch about Terran say something generic about how someone should be allowed to express their opinion, you shouldn't have quoted the post you did, because it didn't even claim that PvT is imbalanced their opinion was offensive or that they shouldn't be allowed to express it. Just sayin'.


But just so I can make it stupidly clear in case you just decide to read what you want to read again: I don't think that PvT is significantly imbalanced. It just seems to me that the motif of "People say P>T, but really P=T" is something that CSheep constantly spouts, and it's annoying that he does it even when no one was saying anything suggesting that P>T. I really think you should just let it go, or at least only argue about it when there's someone around to disagree with you.

But I do really appreciate your translating <3 I'm just a terran MBC fanboy that gets upset when you complain about Terran.
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
July 04 2010 19:35 GMT
#46
I like Kal but I don't see him getting past JD.
nurle
Profile Joined August 2009
Norway308 Posts
July 04 2010 19:49 GMT
#47
Group F winner? Light won tho....
Jaedong fucking beast
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