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Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
June 24 2010 13:49 GMT
#21
On June 24 2010 22:18 ssj114 wrote:
Can savior still be considered a bonjwa?

In my eyes even PokJu is more worthy of the bonjwa title than the disgraceful fuck that is MJY.
Woyn
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United Kingdom1628 Posts
June 24 2010 13:51 GMT
#22
On June 24 2010 22:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

I supported Savior and believed in him even when Rekrul first made his thread which brought the whole issue into tl. Even when it was confirmed that he was guilty, I wanted to defend his place in bw history because he rigged the games that he lost, not the games he won which meant his whole reign was legit. He was the man who singlehandedly changed zerg. Even the tactics he used and analysing his thought process we can still use. He was actual probably the one and only progamer that i considered myself a true fan of. Even when he was slumping when bw got a bit boring for me i would check in to see his games hoping to see a spark of his old self. I felt like I met a celebrity when he walked by me in coex on my first live sc game.


Its heartbreaking man, I personally never respected a progamer more than MJY, watching him in is prime was tantalising.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 24 2010 13:57 GMT
#23
On June 24 2010 22:38 Nyxs wrote:
Oh well at least he retracted his statement of not being involved in certain ways and just taking the full accusation.

Would have been better if he didn't lie in the first place...would have been better if he didn't blackmail and match fix in the first place...

There are no "at leasts" in the situation.
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
June 24 2010 14:00 GMT
#24
damn it every time I read news about this makes me hate Lux more. But reading that he got blackmailed I kinda feel bad for him now.
Woo Jung Ho
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
June 24 2010 14:04 GMT
#25
--- Nuked ---
Tazza
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Korea (South)1678 Posts
June 24 2010 14:08 GMT
#26
I still miss Luxury. You were my here back then. You were the reason I started watching SC. I will always miss you Luxury
Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
June 24 2010 14:10 GMT
#27
Any clue which of the two games from Feb 25 was actually the rigged one?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 24 2010 14:14 GMT
#28
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

Because (Z)sAviOr wasnt a player, (Z)sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..

but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo..
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
moon`
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States372 Posts
June 24 2010 14:18 GMT
#29
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?


I don't know if this guy is trolling but seriously? The guy revolutionized zerg play - of course there will be fans. Myself included..

No one cares if you didn't like him. Keep it to yourself..
Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like pandabearguy.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 24 2010 14:21 GMT
#30
On June 24 2010 23:14 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

Because (Z)sAviOr wasnt a player, (Z)sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..

but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo..


They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol
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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 14:26:47
June 24 2010 14:25 GMT
#31
On June 24 2010 23:21 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 23:14 arb wrote:
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

Because (Z)sAviOr wasnt a player, (Z)sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..

but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo..


They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol

excatly. The fact that they were blackmailed later on doesn't lessen the fact that it was their own decision to rig games the first time. I don't think its a completely different story that they were blackmailed. If they were really sorry the first time they would have confessed before this whole issue occured and not continue rigging games.
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
June 24 2010 14:27 GMT
#32
On June 24 2010 23:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 23:21 IntoTheWow wrote:
On June 24 2010 23:14 arb wrote:
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

Because (Z)sAviOr wasnt a player, (Z)sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..

but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo..


They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol

excatly. The fact that they were blackmailed later on doesn't lessen the fact that it was their own decision to rig games the first time. I don't think its a completely different story that they were blackmailed.

well if they just wanted to quit because they were being blackmailed, then most likely they would have continued if they werent, didnt think of it that way. so they get no pity from me
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
June 24 2010 14:29 GMT
#33
On June 24 2010 23:21 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 23:14 arb wrote:
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

Because (Z)sAviOr wasnt a player, (Z)sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..

but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo..


They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol

Yeah they weren't blackmailed from the outset :p. They could then be considered victims of extortion. But it's obviously sad that they found themselves in a whirlpool, sinking further and further even if they had wanted to get out.

I personally really liked the last Hwasin interview I'd read. And after some fpl following, I also became a minor tybe-b fan. Other than that, I was already a big fan of UpMaGiC. So in that regard, I'm sad this happened. Hope they get some leniency from the judge and they can get on with their lives. They don't deserve to have unending consquences for a selfish, stupid mistake they made as young men.
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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
June 24 2010 14:52 GMT
#34
the luxury vs hwasin game is probably the saddest one... both players were in on it from there start.
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Camlito
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Australia4040 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-24 14:59:20
June 24 2010 14:57 GMT
#35
On June 24 2010 22:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

I supported Savior and believed in him even when Rekrul first made his thread which brought the whole issue into tl. Even when it was confirmed that he was guilty, I wanted to defend his place in bw history because he rigged the games that he lost, not the games he won which meant his whole reign was legit. He was the man who singlehandedly changed zerg. Even the tactics he used and analysing his thought process we can still use. He was actual probably the one and only progamer that i considered myself a true fan of. Even when he was slumping when bw got a bit boring for me i would check in to see his games hoping to see a spark of his old self. I felt like I met a celebrity when he walked by me in coex on my first live sc game.


This sums up my thoughts exactly. The first post (edit: what ils quoted) is a bit silly, since in hindsight you can accuse and assume alot of things and not be called wrong, so therefore you are seen as right... well sAviOr and Boxer got me into starcraft, and the only reason i care he's involved is because he's retired and i can't see him go through survivor groups, just to try get into MSL. Watching those made my weeks, even if he lost.

I just hope no one was a Justin fan.
sAviOr...
nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
June 24 2010 14:59 GMT
#36
When you see this and think back to when FBH danced his dance around Savior it's sort of funny cos what Savior did is nothing more than theft and fraud. And he got danced around by a crazy Korean.
Dont look at the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
June 24 2010 15:01 GMT
#37
On June 24 2010 22:51 Woyn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 22:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote:
Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang.

By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right?

I supported Savior and believed in him even when Rekrul first made his thread which brought the whole issue into tl. Even when it was confirmed that he was guilty, I wanted to defend his place in bw history because he rigged the games that he lost, not the games he won which meant his whole reign was legit. He was the man who singlehandedly changed zerg. Even the tactics he used and analysing his thought process we can still use. He was actual probably the one and only progamer that i considered myself a true fan of. Even when he was slumping when bw got a bit boring for me i would check in to see his games hoping to see a spark of his old self. I felt like I met a celebrity when he walked by me in coex on my first live sc game.


Its heartbreaking man, I personally never respected a progamer more than MJY, watching him in is prime was tantalising.


so true ILS. i almost didn't want to believe it when i first heard it. i even wanted to defend him when people were trashtalking, even thou i knew he deserved it
Forever Young
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
June 24 2010 15:49 GMT
#38
stupid and naive to think they wouldn't have been blackmailed after trying to quit the fixing.
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
June 24 2010 15:57 GMT
#39
I 100% agree with match fixing. I am 100% serious, and i have not lost one drop of respect for any of these players. Savior is still amazing, and so is hwasin, yellow, go.go and the rest. <3 them forever.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 24 2010 16:16 GMT
#40
On June 24 2010 23:52 29 fps wrote:
the luxury vs hwasin game is probably the saddest one... both players were in on it from there start.

I remember watching that game and going what the fuck is this bullshit. That was probably the dumbest game ever, from Lux doing stupid shit against scouted proxy 2 rax, and Hwasin misplacing the bunker at the nat. I watched it and was like "the fuck is this?"

Well, now I know.
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