EPTOn June 24 2010 22:18 ssj114 wrote:
Can savior still be considered a bonjwa?
Can savior still be considered a bonjwa?
In my eyes even PokJu is more worthy of the bonjwa title than the disgraceful fuck that is MJY.
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Puosu
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In my eyes even PokJu is more worthy of the bonjwa title than the disgraceful fuck that is MJY. | ||
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Woyn
United Kingdom1628 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I supported Savior and believed in him even when Rekrul first made his thread which brought the whole issue into tl. Even when it was confirmed that he was guilty, I wanted to defend his place in bw history because he rigged the games that he lost, not the games he won which meant his whole reign was legit. He was the man who singlehandedly changed zerg. Even the tactics he used and analysing his thought process we can still use. He was actual probably the one and only progamer that i considered myself a true fan of. Even when he was slumping when bw got a bit boring for me i would check in to see his games hoping to see a spark of his old self. I felt like I met a celebrity when he walked by me in coex on my first live sc game. Its heartbreaking man, I personally never respected a progamer more than MJY, watching him in is prime was tantalising. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:38 Nyxs wrote: Oh well at least he retracted his statement of not being involved in certain ways and just taking the full accusation. Would have been better if he didn't lie in the first place...would have been better if he didn't blackmail and match fix in the first place... There are no "at leasts" in the situation. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
 I still miss Luxury. You were my here back then. You were the reason I started watching SC. I will always miss you Luxury | ||
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Delerium
United States324 Posts
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote: Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang. By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right? Because  sAviOr wasnt a player, sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo.. | ||
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moon`
United States372 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:17 ssj114 wrote: Unbelievable. Starcraft 1 is going out with a bang. By the way, who here supported savior? I never liked him much, so I don't care. But I swear half of teamliquid were half way up his...and what not. Some even claimed that savior was the main reason they got interested in starcraft in the first place. This must hurt. Right? I don't know if this guy is trolling but seriously? The guy revolutionized zerg play - of course there will be fans. Myself included.. No one cares if you didn't like him. Keep it to yourself.. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
On June 24 2010 23:14 arb wrote: Because sAviOr wasnt a player, sAviOr was a god. the OGN i believe commentators even called him a god..but really, the players were blackmailed into doing it? thats completly different imo.. They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17743 Posts
On June 24 2010 23:21 IntoTheWow wrote: They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol excatly. The fact that they were blackmailed later on doesn't lessen the fact that it was their own decision to rig games the first time. I don't think its a completely different story that they were blackmailed. If they were really sorry the first time they would have confessed before this whole issue occured and not continue rigging games. | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On June 24 2010 23:25 Ilikestarcraft wrote: excatly. The fact that they were blackmailed later on doesn't lessen the fact that it was their own decision to rig games the first time. I don't think its a completely different story that they were blackmailed. well if they just wanted to quit because they were being blackmailed, then most likely they would have continued if they werent, didnt think of it that way. so they get no pity from me | ||
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
On June 24 2010 23:21 IntoTheWow wrote: They started by their own, but when they wanted to quit they were blackmailed. Which was to be expected lol Yeah they weren't blackmailed from the outset :p. They could then be considered victims of extortion. But it's obviously sad that they found themselves in a whirlpool, sinking further and further even if they had wanted to get out. I personally really liked the last Hwasin interview I'd read. And after some fpl following, I also became a minor tybe-b fan. Other than that, I was already a big fan of UpMaGiC. So in that regard, I'm sad this happened. Hope they get some leniency from the judge and they can get on with their lives. They don't deserve to have unending consquences for a selfish, stupid mistake they made as young men. | ||
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29 fps
United States5725 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:31 Ilikestarcraft wrote: I supported Savior and believed in him even when Rekrul first made his thread which brought the whole issue into tl. Even when it was confirmed that he was guilty, I wanted to defend his place in bw history because he rigged the games that he lost, not the games he won which meant his whole reign was legit. He was the man who singlehandedly changed zerg. Even the tactics he used and analysing his thought process we can still use. He was actual probably the one and only progamer that i considered myself a true fan of. Even when he was slumping when bw got a bit boring for me i would check in to see his games hoping to see a spark of his old self. I felt like I met a celebrity when he walked by me in coex on my first live sc game. This sums up my thoughts exactly. The first post (edit: what ils quoted) is a bit silly, since in hindsight you can accuse and assume alot of things and not be called wrong, so therefore you are seen as right... well sAviOr and Boxer got me into starcraft, and the only reason i care he's involved is because he's retired and i can't see him go through survivor groups, just to try get into MSL. Watching those made my weeks, even if he lost. I just hope no one was a Justin fan. | ||
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
On June 24 2010 22:51 Woyn wrote: Its heartbreaking man, I personally never respected a progamer more than MJY, watching him in is prime was tantalising. so true ILS. i almost didn't want to believe it when i first heard it. i even wanted to defend him when people were trashtalking, even thou i knew he deserved it | ||
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SONE
Canada839 Posts
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 24 2010 23:52 29 fps wrote: the luxury vs hwasin game is probably the saddest one... both players were in on it from there start. I remember watching that game and going what the fuck is this bullshit. That was probably the dumbest game ever, from Lux doing stupid shit against scouted proxy 2 rax, and Hwasin misplacing the bunker at the nat. I watched it and was like "the fuck is this?" Well, now I know. | ||
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