in last 5 hours (ashur delphi interface, me c patch code)
we have just finished program to modify shortcuts(hotkeys) keys in broodwar: in this way like u set u want 'A' key for Drone instead of 'D'.
works surely with B-net.
it patches file patch_rt.mpq that contains language localization data..

note works only for ENG BW version
we want w8 with publication till it is not considered as hack..

Shmi

Sweden139 Posts

April 26 2004 17:51 GMT

omg nice job!!

Ashur

Czech Republic646 Posts

April 26 2004 17:54 GMT

Worked from 21:30 to 8:30 only on graphic and user friendly engine

LazySCV

United States2942 Posts

April 26 2004 17:54 GMT

--- Nuked ---

Hautamaki

Canada1311 Posts

April 26 2004 17:59 GMT

I would fully support a program to modify the keys, but only if every single other player was not only able, but willing to get the program and do it. If it leads to someone having an advantage, as it almost certainly will, I dislike it. But if it embraced by Blizzard, wgtour, progaming in Korea, and all other LAN tournies, I think it would be great. I have trouble using some hotkeys because of my small hands, and something which will help to even that score for others like me, and which will overall increase the level of gameplay for everyone, is great. But unfortunately, if it cannot be used at LANs or official competitions, or if some people cannot use it, or if major tournies and ladders will not support it, than neither can I.

I wish you the best of luck though Lasgo, I think it would be great if it became universally standard.

Ashur

Czech Republic646 Posts

April 26 2004 17:59 GMT

Well it is not third party program, hmm :/
I will read licence to BNet now...

EvilTeletubby

Baltimore, USA22261 Posts

April 26 2004 18:00 GMT

On April 27 2004 02:54 LaZyScV wrote:
Ooh.. I want that!

It's considered cheating by Blizzard.

Just about everything is considered cheating by Blizzard.

Not that they matter... I just wonder if BWScanner will pick up on this? I don't see how it would, but you never know.

Maybe now Protoss players won't have to go left-hand mouse.

haduken

Australia8267 Posts

April 26 2004 18:09 GMT

sweet!

Ashur

Czech Republic646 Posts

April 26 2004 18:13 GMT

I read the licence. Really, this is not a third party program, it does not effect any BNet service. In fact, it is only question about manner.

On the other side, due to relation to LAN, it is working ONLY on english version of BW. It will be NOT working on German version (already ap called DoxStar) or any other. But Koreans have already their own, or they are using StarKey

Yuljan

2196 Posts

April 26 2004 18:18 GMT

#10

I dont know but is doxstar not like 2 years old now?

0x64

Finland4647 Posts

April 26 2004 18:30 GMT

#11

I wouldnt use it, but I wouldnt mind my opponent using it.

hasuwar

7365 Posts

April 26 2004 18:32 GMT

#12

Here's how I look at this: Do you think they'd let you take a program into WCG to modify the game so you could play in some special way so you only have to press 2 keys to do everything? No.

As for my personal opinion, I DO think this is a 3rd party program..how could you not? It's editing the game files to let you play an easier and different way than it should be played. I think it's gay, and anyone who would use something like it to be a fag.

CaRn1FeX

Germany203 Posts

April 26 2004 18:40 GMT

#13

3rd party program ==> hack

Ashur

Czech Republic646 Posts

April 26 2004 18:44 GMT

#14

Third party program modifies directly game memory, making an advantage /fe. maphack/. This program modifies file (where regional settings are set). Who can care, that Germans (etc.) got hotkeys nearer then English ones. This is surely not a cheat.

It is also supported and created by Blizzard in W3,FT...

I am not speculating about permission at WCG, i really do not care about WCG, if they ban it or not, i dont care. It is for everyday usage over BN, to help people with small hands (Hautamaki

or people that do not want to learn and search where that damned hotkey "P" lies. Thing about this, plz.

rplant

United States1178 Posts

April 26 2004 18:52 GMT

#15

This shouldn't be considered a hack at all. Warcraft 3 allows for hotkey configuration, and if Blizzard were still looking out for starcraft instead of trying to fuck it up by releasing patches that screw up replays without contributing anything to the game, they'd probably do it if it wasn't too much trouble.

Since they won't, we have to depend on people like Lasgo and Ashur to develop stuff like this for us.

<3

Looks like a great start. Hopefully you'll make it so settings can be saved so it's easy to migrate them from pc to pc (I play bw at several). I know you could just run around with a patch_rt.mpq but those are pretty big.

Btw, do the computers at wcg qualifiers have internet connections?

Yang

Lithuania231 Posts

April 26 2004 18:55 GMT

#16

I have changed my hotkeys about a year ago. And at lan I just take patch_rt.mpq with me..
Btw, pro's also use their own hotkeys.

Yang

Lithuania231 Posts

April 26 2004 18:59 GMT

#17

When u play quacke, u modify your controls, or u play with default??

It is the same, just blizzard didn't make such an option.
If blizzard couldn't do this for us, why we can't do it for ourselfes?

ZorAptoR

Switzerland926 Posts

April 26 2004 18:59 GMT

#18

if this other thread about patch 1.11 is true, why don't you just send the program to blizzard and ask them to integrate it into the patch, so if they would do that the whole discussion is finished and if they don't the proleagues and online leagues can still decide about it.

btw. as everyone can change to english keys, everybody should also be abled to modify keys with the prog ?!