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JDforever
Profile Joined December 2009
China69 Posts
May 15 2010 02:53 GMT
#21
Nice writeup!
I love Frank
T.O.P. *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Hong Kong4685 Posts
May 15 2010 03:01 GMT
#22
Final Edits worthy. Damn, I love Flash.
Oracle comes in, Scvs go down, never a miscommunication.
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
May 15 2010 03:02 GMT
#23
great read, awesome article. thanks
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
May 15 2010 03:05 GMT
#24
haha god i love flash

That was a brilliant write up; Flash truly does have an unbeatable combo; he has rediculous game sense, amazing macro, and built his name on microing cheesy builds. Titanium.

Hilarious end pic haha Flash as starcraft god.

Just one lil problem: http://www.snopes.com/glurge/tenors.asp
As much as the story was inspiring (I loved it) it seems not to be true...
Chobi
Profile Joined January 2009
45 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 03:21:50
May 15 2010 03:21 GMT
#25


Seriously Flash talked so much in this video. It made me wonder why Stork went all speechless and now I know the truth~ Thanks to orgolove for this wonderful article!
dan_dark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Peru127 Posts
May 15 2010 03:26 GMT
#26
incredible article, but less than "god" i consider himself to be a Legend, in the years to come, there will be tales about how flash dominated everyone,

personally I would like for him to win both leagues and then slump and a protoss take the place as Number 1 :D but unfortunatetly flash is too good (or too god) O_O

ps. sry 4 bad english
BW will never die
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
May 15 2010 03:28 GMT
#27
On May 15 2010 12:26 dan_dark wrote:
incredible article, but less than "god" i consider himself to be a Legend, in the years to come, there will be tales about how flash dominated everyone,

personally I would like for him to win both leagues and then slump and a protoss take the place as Number 1 :D but unfortunatetly flash is too good (or too god) O_O

ps. sry 4 bad english


Hypothetically speaking, which toss do you think would/could rise to the occasion?
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Crunchums
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States11144 Posts
May 15 2010 03:35 GMT
#28
Can someone sub that video?
brood war for life, brood war forever
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
May 15 2010 03:36 GMT
#29
On May 15 2010 10:57 orgolove wrote:
Of course, we had heard something similar to this before. Just a few years ago, a certain programmer said on camera that he now knew and understood everything there was to know about starcraft after hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of hours of practice.


errr.. was that savior? i dont remember this
Entusman #51
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
May 15 2010 03:38 GMT
#30
On May 15 2010 12:28 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 12:26 dan_dark wrote:
incredible article, but less than "god" i consider himself to be a Legend, in the years to come, there will be tales about how flash dominated everyone,

personally I would like for him to win both leagues and then slump and a protoss take the place as Number 1 :D but unfortunatetly flash is too good (or too god) O_O

ps. sry 4 bad english


Hypothetically speaking, which toss do you think would/could rise to the occasion?

geumchi obvs
Translator
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 15 2010 03:47 GMT
#31
Ah, I like this kind of confidence. I am GOD. ahahahah.

The picture is so cute !!

So great work, thanks for the effort! Really good job doing that God poster.

Actually I won't feel good if flash said :"I am god" in the interview, kinda makes him a vallain. kkk.

But if his fans do it for him, it really work wonders~ Ah, now see God do dual gold. I prefer him being terminator, because he is terran and not protoss.
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
Plaaguu
Profile Joined April 2009
United States406 Posts
May 15 2010 03:50 GMT
#32
Great article, awesome read, thanks for writing it!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
May 15 2010 03:52 GMT
#33
On May 15 2010 12:36 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 10:57 orgolove wrote:
Of course, we had heard something similar to this before. Just a few years ago, a certain programmer said on camera that he now knew and understood everything there was to know about starcraft after hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of hours of practice.


errr.. was that savior? i dont remember this

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Most likely.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
May 15 2010 03:55 GMT
#34
Gotta love Flash.
Very nice write-up!
NaDa/Flash/Thorzain Fan
Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
May 15 2010 03:56 GMT
#35
Magnificent article, it really seems like flash has transcended above all progamers, while Jaedong seemed like the final boss of a game, the hardest foe but still possible to slay, Flash does seem more like an unstoppable god.
Cinematographer / Steadicam Operator. Former Starcraft commentator/player
DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
May 15 2010 04:20 GMT
#36
MY CPU IS A NEURAL NET PROCESSOR. A LEARNING COMPUTER.

rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 04:28:39
May 15 2010 04:22 GMT
#37
On May 15 2010 12:35 Crunchums wrote:
Can someone sub that video?

I'm gonna liberally leave out unimportant lines coming from the commentators, so just try to follow along the best you can. I'll make a mark when big topic changes occur.


On May 15 2010 12:21 Chobi wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9oF9pew98s&feature=related

Seriously Flash talked so much in this video. It made me wonder why Stork went all speechless and now I know the truth~ Thanks to orgolove for this wonderful article!


(T/N: They're talking about OSL group ceremonies)
flash: me? I think im just gonna go in without any specific person in mind and pick whoever goes at me. As soon as they talk smack to me I'm picking them [to be in my OSL group]. Not anybody who acts up, but those that act up to me. I might get in a fight.
=======
flash: Honestly back then I talked alot about Kara, but now all [the girl groups] are so pretty, so I haven't really decided. This time, if I make it to the finals, and I like one of the performers, I will beg one of the PD's to death [to meet her]. (T/N: He's referring to the past OSL where Kara performed but he was too timid to ask the PD's to let him meet Nicole)
commentator1: So Flash is already sick of Kara, is this what I'm hearing?
commentator2: Yea, that's what im hearing too lol like before he won the OSL, [his object of desire] was Nicole
commentator1: So this is why there's a saying that when guys succeed, they become unfaithful and move on
flash: no i still like Nicole
commentators: HAHAHA pro coverup by flash
=======
(T/N: Now I assume they've been talking about how the finals will go if he makes it)
flash: I feel that depending on the players' conditions that day, the results will come out accordingly.
commentator: It feels like flash has been enlightened [in starcraft]
flash: I don't mean to sound cocky, but I really was enlightened... You know how my stats just went crazy all the sudden. That's when I made the big discovery, because back then, I was thinking that my understanding of the game had reached its peak, but I lost the MSL finals. After the loss, I practiced so so hard, and reached nirvana. I really was enlightened.
commentator: That discovery, could it be something unexpectedly simple?
flash: yea, its something very simple. But then again I say i've been enlightened every week..but this one is the biggest enlightenment Ive reached in my career.
=======
(T/N: They've been talking about his enlightenment)
commentator: but terrans are always such bastards, [flash] won't tell any of us what that discovery he made actually is!
(break in footage)
commentator: you did achieve nirvana already
(break in footage)
flash: I think I realized how to play in real matches. I had always been confident in my performance
(The phrase 'Listening Carefully' pops up next to stork's head)
flash: While practicing and analyzing replays, and I started to feel more and more like I really 'got it' and at the beginning of this season i felt like I made that discovery but..
(Speech bubble next to stork says 'So yea you still haven't said what that discovery is')
flash: but then in broadcasted matches [my performance during practice] wouldn't come out. but then I started winning more broadcasted matches, and then right after I lost the MSL final, and mystically I just made that leap. I think I always said I couldn't show my full potential in broadcasted games, for example during my interviews. but now I can perform at 100% of my skill. I do better than or as well as I do during practice, I don't do worse.
stork: that discovery you made, it was something psychological wasn't it?
flash: yup, something like that
stork: yea, so during practice you have less fear of losing so you're more flexible in your response to your opponent, but in live matches you tense up and go by what you prepared without reacting to your opponent.. but toss can't do that (T\N: lol@stork whining)
commentator: How long has it been since your debut flash?
flash: It was 3/15/2007 so it's been 3 years now.
=======
flash: my hands were really slow, like 290 APM? that was it.
commentators: HAHAHA 290? that's slow? stork?
stork: I average at 230 T_T I increased it but it's still under 300
all: LOLOLOLROFLMAO
flash: well i mean given terran's properties you have to have faster hands. When I started, I was one of THE SLOWEST terran progamers. but then in the process of trying to speed up my APM, I ran into a dilemma, because [moving your hands that fast] wasn't natural to me and I lost a shitton. but then all the sudden my APM jumped by about 100.. Like in recent games I hover around 400. But then I ran into another problem (T/N: He calls it another dilemma, but I thought it was unfitting so i changed it to problem) I couldn't play at those APM's during broadcasted matches. But as I gained more experience in bigger stages, I gained understanding [of how to win] and can now perform as well as I do in practice. It got rid of alot of my problems.
=======
(T/N: I think they were talking about who out of taekbangleessang the strongest player is/will be in the near future)
commentator: what about you flash?
flash: Recently I've been winning alot, and I go to the SC community websites alot. When reading what they say, they say there are periods [of dominance]. It seems to cycle through [different players]. There's never anyone that sucks but there's always one that's the best at any given time. 2007 was stork, 2008 was Jaedong, 2009 was bisu and 2010 it's me, they say, and I really agree with it.
commentator: so listening to flash, he's saying that in any case 2010 is his year.
flash: I think it's time for me to finally win mvp of the year since i've never won it
commentator: Oh, best player award!
stork: I've never gotten it either
commentator: just wait 7 months for the year 2011 lol
flash: I think out of the four jaedong is the only one to have received the award.. honestly he has risen way past us in terms of career awards. We need to catch up, all together, so we go down as rivals of the century, all four of us. We gotta pull through while jaedong is in his mini slump
=======
stork: first off, the winner's jynx should be making a comeback, right?
all: LOLOLOLROFLMAO
flash: but I'm really strong against jynxes. I'm the type that breaks all those jynxes.
commentator: yea that's right
(break in footage)
commentator: after your first OSL win, how did you perform in the next season?
flash: I lost in the RO8.
stork: it was the RO8 for me too
commentator: so the furthest [the past season's winner can get] is RO8?
flash: yea... I gotta do well this time
=======
flash: I look forward to your quality commentating.
commentators: LOL THANK YOU SO MUCH.
commentator: don't worry son I got you
flash: And please don't love carriers too much, stork is right here (T/N: Kim Carrier, the commentator, is known for his love for carriers and recommending them in every situation, even in situations where it would be the worst decision to make)
commentator: okay fine lol... stork don't ever get them they suck
all: thank youuu! (lulz ensue)

Translator
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 04:38:32
May 15 2010 04:38 GMT
#38
Amazing article!

On May 15 2010 13:22 rotinegg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 12:35 Crunchums wrote:
Can someone sub that video?

I'm gonna liberally leave out unimportant lines coming from the commentators, so just try to follow along the best you can. I'll make a mark when big topic changes occur.


Show nested quote +
On May 15 2010 12:21 Chobi wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9oF9pew98s&feature=related

Seriously Flash talked so much in this video. It made me wonder why Stork went all speechless and now I know the truth~ Thanks to orgolove for this wonderful article!


+ Show Spoiler +
(T/N: They're talking about OSL group ceremonies)
flash: me? I think im just gonna go in without any specific person in mind and pick whoever goes at me. As soon as they talk smack to me I'm picking them [to be in my OSL group]. Not anybody who acts up, but those that act up to me. I might get in a fight.
=======
flash: Honestly back then I talked alot about Kara, but now all [the girl groups] are so pretty, so I haven't really decided. This time, if I make it to the finals, and I like one of the performers, I will beg one of the PD's to death [to meet her]. (T/N: He's referring to the past OSL where Kara performed but he was too timid to ask the PD's to let him meet Nicole)
commentator1: So Flash is already sick of Kara, is this what I'm hearing?
commentator2: Yea, that's what im hearing too lol like before he won the OSL, [his object of desire] was Nicole
commentator1: So this is why there's a saying that when guys succeed, they become unfaithful and move on
flash: no i still like Nicole
commentators: HAHAHA pro coverup by flash
=======
(T/N: Now I assume they've been talking about how the finals will go if he makes it)
flash: I feel that depending on the players' conditions that day, the results will come out accordingly.
commentator: It feels like flash has been enlightened [in starcraft]
flash: I don't mean to sound cocky, but I really was enlightened... You know how my stats just went crazy all the sudden. That's when I made the big discovery, because back then, I was thinking that my understanding of the game had reached its peak, but I lost the MSL finals. After the loss, I practiced so so hard, and reached nirvana. I really was enlightened.
commentator: That discovery, could it be something unexpectedly simple?
flash: yea, its something very simple. But then again I say i've been enlightened every week..but this one is the biggest enlightenment Ive reached in my career.
=======
(T/N: They've been talking about his enlightenment)
commentator: but terrans are always such bastards, [flash] won't tell any of us what that discovery he made actually is!
(break in footage)
commentator: you did achieve nirvana already
(break in footage)
flash: I think I realized how to play in real matches. I had always been confident in my performance
(The phrase 'Listening Carefully' pops up next to stork's head)
flash: While practicing and analyzing replays, and I started to feel more and more like I really 'got it' and at the beginning of this season i felt like I made that discovery but..
(Speech bubble next to stork says 'So yea you still haven't said what that discovery is')
flash: but then in broadcasted matches [my performance during practice] wouldn't come out. but then I started winning more broadcasted matches, and then right after I lost the MSL final, and mystically I just made that leap. I think I always said I couldn't show my full potential in broadcasted games, for example during my interviews. but now I can perform at 100% of my skill. I do better than or as well as I do during practice, I don't do worse.
stork: that discovery you made, it was something psychological wasn't it?
flash: yup, something like that
stork: yea, so during practice you have less fear of losing so you're more flexible in your response to your opponent, but in live matches you tense up and go by what you prepared without reacting to your opponent.. but toss can't do that (T\N: lol@stork whining)
commentator: How long has it been since your debut flash?
flash: It was 3/15/2007 so it's been 3 years now.
=======
flash: my hands were really slow, like 290 APM? that was it.
commentators: HAHAHA 290? that's slow? stork?
stork: I average at 230 T_T I increased it but it's still under 300
all: LOLOLOLROFLMAO
flash: well i mean given terran's properties you have to have faster hands. When I started, I was one of THE SLOWEST terran progamers. but then in the process of trying to speed up my APM, I ran into a dilemma, because [moving your hands that fast] wasn't natural to me and I lost a shitton. but then all the sudden my APM jumped by about 100.. Like in recent games I hover around 400. But then I ran into another problem (T/N: He calls it another dilemma, but I thought it was unfitting so i changed it to problem) I couldn't play at those APM's during broadcasted matches. But as I gained more experience in bigger stages, I gained understanding [of how to win] and can now perform as well as I do in practice. It got rid of alot of my problems.
=======
(T/N: I think they were talking about who out of taekbangleessang the strongest player is/will be in the near future)
commentator: what about you flash?
flash: Recently I've been winning alot, and I go to the SC community websites alot. When reading what they say, they say there are periods [of dominance]. It seems to cycle through [different players]. There's never anyone that sucks but there's always one that's the best at any given time. 2007 was stork, 2008 was Jaedong, 2009 was bisu and 2010 it's me, they say, and I really agree with it.
commentator: so listening to flash, he's saying that in any case 2010 is his year.
flash: I think it's time for me to finally win mvp of the year since i've never won it
commentator: Oh, best player award!
stork: I've never gotten it either
commentator: just wait 7 months for the year 2011 lol
flash: I think out of the four jaedong is the only one to have received the award.. honestly he has risen way past us in terms of career awards. We need to catch up, all together, so we go down as rivals of the century, all four of us. We gotta pull through while jaedong is in his mini slump
=======
stork: first off, the winner's jynx should be making a comeback, right?
all: LOLOLOLROFLMAO
flash: but I'm really strong against jynxes. I'm the type that breaks all those jynxes.
commentator: yea that's right
(break in footage)
commentator: after your first OSL win, how did you perform in the next season?
flash: I lost in the RO8.
stork: it was the RO8 for me too
commentator: so the furthest [the past season's winner can get] is RO8?
flash: yea... I gotta do well this time
=======
flash: I look forward to your quality commentating.
commentators: LOL THANK YOU SO MUCH.
commentator: don't worry son I got you
flash: And please don't love carriers too much, stork is right here (T/N: Kim Carrier, the commentator, is known for his love for carriers and recommending them in every situation, even in situations where it would be the worst decision to make)
commentator: okay fine lol... stork don't ever get them they suck
all: thank youuu! (lulz ensue)



Thank you Rottinegg!
butchji
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1531 Posts
May 15 2010 05:03 GMT
#39
Wow, thanks for translation. Would be awkward if there really exists a player who figured out the game 100% from now on. Like a computer in chess. ;o
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
May 15 2010 05:12 GMT
#40
Flash has Mastered starcraft
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