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Denotate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada294 Posts
May 15 2010 20:34 GMT
#81
Here Comes the Sun!

JaedongMidasAction
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 21:01:49
May 15 2010 21:00 GMT
#82
the article was cool, but seriously people. STOP saying that flash is god. its fucking annoying as hell.
And jaedong's not gonna lose in a place as important as msl finals where the stakes are so high. Flash may have a better mindset right now, but Jaedong has the potential to be mentally stronger (his angry mode).
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
May 15 2010 22:17 GMT
#83
On May 16 2010 06:00 JaedongMidasAction wrote:
the article was cool, but seriously people. STOP saying that flash is god. its fucking annoying as hell.
And jaedong's not gonna lose in a place as important as msl finals where the stakes are so high. Flash may have a better mindset right now, but Jaedong has the potential to be mentally stronger (his angry mode).

You're the only person in the whole world who thinks it's not appropriate. Sorry if your favorite progamer can't be called god.
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
JaedongMidasAction
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 22:29:17
May 15 2010 22:28 GMT
#84
On May 16 2010 07:17 Fumi wrote:
You're the only person in the whole world who thinks it's not appropriate. Sorry if your favorite progamer can't be called god.


Funny. Flash IS my favorite progamer. Its just ridiculous how people are calling him that. And try to keep your fanboy hormones down to a minimum. It won't do you any good
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
May 15 2010 22:34 GMT
#85
This is seriously getting out of hand. While I was hoping for a close 3-2 victory for Jaedong in the finals (assuming he makes it past Calm), I'm beginning to wish he would just rape Flash 3-0 so everyone will shut up about with this "Flash isn't bonjwa, he's God herp derp" nonsense. On the other hand, if Flash beats Jaedong 3-0, I'm probably going to stop following progaming simply because I wouldn't be able to tolerate the rabid Flash fanboys anymore.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 22:41:22
May 15 2010 22:39 GMT
#86
The best thing about this article is the Jaedong fanboys it's managed to piss off.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
May 15 2010 22:42 GMT
#87
I almost fell out of my chair at 3 or 4 points when reading this. It was hilarious.
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Rkie
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1278 Posts
May 15 2010 22:46 GMT
#88
On May 15 2010 10:57 orgolove wrote:

Of course, we had heard something similar to this before. Just a few years ago, a certain programmer said on camera that he now knew and understood everything there was to know about starcraft after hundreds, thousands, even tens of thousands of hours of practice.

We all know how that ended up. So just what makes Flash’s ascension so different?




umm... who was this?
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 15 2010 22:54 GMT
#89
^^^^^

Savior.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-15 22:59:35
May 15 2010 22:58 GMT
#90
On May 16 2010 07:34 DarkMatter_ wrote:
This is seriously getting out of hand. While I was hoping for a close 3-2 victory for Jaedong in the finals (assuming he makes it past Calm), I'm beginning to wish he would just rape Flash 3-0 so everyone will shut up about with this "Flash isn't bonjwa, he's God herp derp" nonsense. On the other hand, if Flash beats Jaedong 3-0, I'm probably going to stop following progaming simply because I wouldn't be able to tolerate the rabid Flash fanboys anymore.


Lol no one is really calling Flash God. It's a hyperbole; a metaphor for absolute pwnage i.e. God is traditionally defined as omnipotent and all-powerful two things you could say describe Flash's dominance in the world of Starcraft currently. The article was a commentary on Flash's psychology and was based on his own interview statements. I thought the God thing was both an appropriate metaphor (given Flash's belief he has achieved some sort of Buddha-like Starcraft enlightenment) and very funny at the same time (the pictures were great!).

Say your prayers to Flash haters!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 00:17:03
May 16 2010 00:14 GMT
#91
On May 16 2010 06:00 JaedongMidasAction wrote:
the article was cool, but seriously people. STOP saying that flash is god. its fucking annoying as hell.
And jaedong's not gonna lose in a place as important as msl finals where the stakes are so high. Flash may have a better mindset right now, but Jaedong has the potential to be mentally stronger (his angry mode).

I was under the impression we were calling him God because he got that nickname in Korea.

EDIT: From http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124201

On May 08 2010 19:36 sungsik- wrote:

Also korean started to call Flash as GOD Young-Ho.(Young-Ho is flash's real name)

What this means is boxer, nada, oov, savior are four BonJwa, which is used to represent players who dominate for long time, and flash is the first God line.

So don't take the nickname so seriously.
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DennizR
Profile Joined May 2007
Sweden653 Posts
May 16 2010 00:17 GMT
#92
Awesome writeup. Flash really is the Ultimate Weapon

Also, Front Page/Final Edit +1
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
May 16 2010 00:54 GMT
#93
On May 16 2010 07:28 JaedongMidasAction wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 07:17 Fumi wrote:
You're the only person in the whole world who thinks it's not appropriate. Sorry if your favorite progamer can't be called god.


Funny. Flash IS my favorite progamer. Its just ridiculous how people are calling him that. And try to keep your fanboy hormones down to a minimum. It won't do you any good


And that's why your nick is Jaedong. Interesting...

JaedongMidasAction
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States70 Posts
May 16 2010 01:00 GMT
#94
guys, since he's reached enlightenment, WHY DONT U CALL HIM BUDDHA YOUNG HO?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-16 01:28:08
May 16 2010 01:25 GMT
#95
On May 16 2010 09:54 Lebesgue wrote:
And that's why your nick is Jaedong. Interesting...


Maybe someone already registered the name FlashMidasAction.

On May 16 2010 10:00 JaedongMidasAction wrote:
guys, since he's reached enlightenment, WHY DONT U CALL HIM BUDDHA YOUNG HO?

Because we're all in love with Korean Starcraft and that's not what they call him in Korea.

In all honesty, I don't see why you're so offended by the nickname when it's simply just taken from Korea, just like a lot of other nicknames for progamers.
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Drk_ItachiX
Profile Joined April 2009
Japan113 Posts
May 16 2010 01:44 GMT
#96
Im sorry....but this whole idea of enlightenment....coming from a progamer....and ascending above all that Starcraft has to offer.....is just plain hilarious to me....I dont think I could look at Flash with a straight face.
Sulfur
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
May 16 2010 01:52 GMT
#97
On May 16 2010 07:58 space_yes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 07:34 DarkMatter_ wrote:
This is seriously getting out of hand. While I was hoping for a close 3-2 victory for Jaedong in the finals (assuming he makes it past Calm), I'm beginning to wish he would just rape Flash 3-0 so everyone will shut up about with this "Flash isn't bonjwa, he's God herp derp" nonsense. On the other hand, if Flash beats Jaedong 3-0, I'm probably going to stop following progaming simply because I wouldn't be able to tolerate the rabid Flash fanboys anymore.


Lol no one is really calling Flash God. It's a hyperbole; a metaphor for absolute pwnage i.e. God is traditionally defined as omnipotent and all-powerful two things you could say describe Flash's dominance in the world of Starcraft currently. The article was a commentary on Flash's psychology and was based on his own interview statements. I thought the God thing was both an appropriate metaphor (given Flash's belief he has achieved some sort of Buddha-like Starcraft enlightenment) and very funny at the same time (the pictures were great!).

Say your prayers to Flash haters!

I am aware that no one believes that Flash is literally God, thanks. -_-
My point is that calling Flash God, even purely in the context of Starcraft, is incredibly annoying and simply not valid. It seems like a poor way of dealing with the whole "Is Flash bonjwa?" controversy by going down an even more extreme, obnoxious route by declaring that "Flash isn't bonjwa, he's God".

Flash is not the God of Starcraft. It's just that he has an amazing ability to consistently beat players who are clearly below his level (just about everyone besides Jaedong), which is what separates him from Jaedong who is still vulnerable to losing against lesser players (except in Bo5s). He just happens to be an amazing player who is extremely consistent. However, Flash is far from invincible when faced against another S-class player at their peak level (NATE MSL finals, EVER OSL game against Stork). Unfortunately, we are in a period where there really aren't any truly great players with the exception of Flash and Jaedong. What does it say about the current state of progaming when the 3rd ranked player puts up such a pathetic performance in the semi-finals of a starleague? (yes, Flash played amazingly as always but even considering that, does anyone actually believe that Free's performance was anywhere close to acceptable for a 3rd rank player?)

I really don't understand what the basis is behind the claim that Flash has completely figured out Starcraft when he's been almost entirely facing against cheeses and cookie-cutter builds. The only player in recent times who showed a great amount of ingenuity against Flash in a Bo5 was Jaedong, and he beat Flash 3-1. So until Flash stomps over an opponent who is actually prepared with well thought-out strategies and the mechanics to execute those strategies properly (i.e. Jaedong), Flash is nowhere close to being the "God of Starcraft".
lone_hydra
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada1460 Posts
May 16 2010 01:59 GMT
#98
The only MU current Flash can be called a god in right now is TvP. He still drops games here and there to no namers and many terrans/zergs can put up a good fight.
Fav Gamers: 2)Stork 5)Bisu
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
May 16 2010 01:59 GMT
#99
Flash: Well I honestly don't care about my anti-fans anyway.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 16 2010 02:05 GMT
#100
On May 16 2010 10:52 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2010 07:58 space_yes wrote:
On May 16 2010 07:34 DarkMatter_ wrote:
This is seriously getting out of hand. While I was hoping for a close 3-2 victory for Jaedong in the finals (assuming he makes it past Calm), I'm beginning to wish he would just rape Flash 3-0 so everyone will shut up about with this "Flash isn't bonjwa, he's God herp derp" nonsense. On the other hand, if Flash beats Jaedong 3-0, I'm probably going to stop following progaming simply because I wouldn't be able to tolerate the rabid Flash fanboys anymore.


Lol no one is really calling Flash God. It's a hyperbole; a metaphor for absolute pwnage i.e. God is traditionally defined as omnipotent and all-powerful two things you could say describe Flash's dominance in the world of Starcraft currently. The article was a commentary on Flash's psychology and was based on his own interview statements. I thought the God thing was both an appropriate metaphor (given Flash's belief he has achieved some sort of Buddha-like Starcraft enlightenment) and very funny at the same time (the pictures were great!).

Say your prayers to Flash haters!

I am aware that no one believes that Flash is literally God, thanks. -_-
My point is that calling Flash God, even purely in the context of Starcraft, is incredibly annoying and simply not valid. It seems like a poor way of dealing with the whole "Is Flash bonjwa?" controversy by going down an even more extreme, obnoxious route by declaring that "Flash isn't bonjwa, he's God".

Flash is not the God of Starcraft. It's just that he has an amazing ability to consistently beat players who are clearly below his level (just about everyone besides Jaedong), which is what separates him from Jaedong who is still vulnerable to losing against lesser players (except in Bo5s). He just happens to be an amazing player who is extremely consistent. However, Flash is far from invincible when faced against another S-class player at their peak level (NATE MSL finals, EVER OSL game against Stork). Unfortunately, we are in a period where there really aren't any truly great players with the exception of Flash and Jaedong. What does it say about the current state of progaming when the 3rd ranked player puts up such a pathetic performance in the semi-finals of a starleague? (yes, Flash played amazingly as always but even considering that, does anyone actually believe that Free's performance was anywhere close to acceptable for a 3rd rank player?)

I really don't understand what the basis is behind the claim that Flash has completely figured out Starcraft when he's been almost entirely facing against cheeses and cookie-cutter builds. The only player in recent times who showed a great amount of ingenuity against Flash in a Bo5 was Jaedong, and he beat Flash 3-1. So until Flash stomps over an opponent who is actually prepared with well thought-out strategies and the mechanics to execute those strategies properly (i.e. Jaedong), Flash is nowhere close to being the "God of Starcraft".

So is your logic about why we should call Jaedong "the Tyrant" equally well thought out?
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