EPTOn April 13 2010 05:12 TheElitists wrote:
if that list is true Flash will never lose a tournament again forever
if that list is true Flash will never lose a tournament again forever
And maybe Nal_ra qualifies for a starleague!
Korea Swept In Illegal Starcraft League Gambling - Page 30
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jeddus
United States832 Posts
And maybe Nal_ra qualifies for a starleague! | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On April 13 2010 00:21 KinosJourney2 wrote: Even though im really sad about the news the replies keeps making me laugh. I really hope Starcraft won't end up like Warcraft 3 after that map rigging incident  Could anyone provide a lot more detail about the WC3 incident? | ||
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AmstAff
Germany949 Posts
whats with nada? | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:20 Zzoram wrote: Could anyone provide a lot more detail about the WC3 incident? Say what? What happened? o.o | ||
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zee
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Floydian
United Kingdom374 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:20 Zzoram wrote: Could anyone provide a lot more detail about the WC3 incident? dsjfhsdf It's been explained like 20 times in this thread -_- | ||
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JodoYodo
Canada1772 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:20 Zzoram wrote: Could anyone provide a lot more detail about the WC3 incident? Tournament programmer rigged the maps to favour a certain race by having other races deal less damage. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:22 JodoYodo wrote: Tournament programmer rigged the maps to favour a certain race by having other races deal less damage. What was the fallout of such an event? I know WC3 was never that popular to begin with in Korea, so did it actually hurt it much? | ||
TheMango
United States1967 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:22 JodoYodo wrote: Tournament programmer rigged the maps to favour a certain race by having other races deal less damage. From what I remember, it was something a little more subtle than that. I think they adjusted orc unit/building build times and possibly nerfed NE in someway. I think that was when NE/Moon was dominating. | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:05 XsebT wrote: You know a game is big when this stuff happens. I see it as a good thing. :D But let me just clearify. Matchriggers are retarded buttholes who should give me all their prizemoney ever won. And no, Stork is not a matchriggerrigger, he is too handsome. How can you be this naive? The entire integrity of the games best players in question. Every upset, every shocking moment, you no longer know if its even legit, or if the guy was just paid a couple grand to throw the match. No good can come of this. This is so much worse than the maprigging scandal. | ||
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Neak
United Kingdom124 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On April 13 2010 00:57 Azarkon wrote: Well, this certainly made me a lot less interested in Korean SC. I guess it's foreigner SC/SC2 for me, now, though I have no doubt it'll be tainted at some point in the future as well. It does create an interesting dilemma for e-sports in general, where tourney money is low enough that players can be easily tempted into illegal gambling, where the profit margin is potentially so much higher. Foreigner scene has been tainted by maphackers winning cash prizes on Internet events, since people can't afford to fly to 1 location to play under supervision. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:28 Neak wrote: No mention of boxer, nal_ra, yellow or other oldtimers. how interesting is that... some former progamers are also under investigation accoring to fomos so we don't know | ||
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ICCup.Tesla
United States841 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:28 Zzoram wrote: Foreigner scene has been tainted by maphackers winning cash prizes on Internet events, since people can't afford to fly to 1 location to play under supervision. Eh...this doesnt matter if they are supervised...Didn't you read the others were involved, not just gamers? So this included coaches and so forth..which means even if they were in one spot it could still be tainted. | ||
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Tristan
Canada566 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
SAVIOR HOW COULD YOU -_- | ||
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TheMango
United States1967 Posts
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:24 Zzoram wrote: What was the fallout of such an event? I know WC3 was never that popular to begin with in Korea, so did it actually hurt it much? It was actually the most successful competitive RTS since BW, and was growing in popularity. The mapfixing scandal made it a joke and it just died. Top players throwing matches due to bribes from illegal gambling sites is about 100 times worse than minor maprigging. Especially since Kespa knew about it since they had a meeting with the gambling sites, and tried to do an underhanded deal to make it go away. Sort of wondering how legit Bisu's break was, or Jaedong being "sick" with enteritis.Especially since savior had a similar excuse (knee injury?) and I think its pretty clear at this point that was a total bullshit coverup. How deep does this go, player wise, and what is Kespa's involvement? Black day for Starcraft =[ | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On April 13 2010 04:37 ICCup.Tesla wrote: True..but if they do that, it will show who is the accused. If I think I understand this situation at all, they want to hide the names and players as best as possible and allow them to save face. This is an Asian belief... If you dishonor them, it will be very bad...and sometimes...saving their face is worse than to dishonor them...I maybe wording this wrong I ask for forgiveness if that is the case, however...They will try to keep it was quite as possible. I am sure of this much. @ De4ngus & Carefree Me: Thanks guys ^^. what are you talking about | ||
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PanzerDragoon
United States822 Posts
On April 13 2010 05:31 ICCup.Tesla wrote: Eh...this doesnt matter if they are supervised...Didn't you read the others were involved, not just gamers? So this included coaches and so forth..which means even if they were in one spot it could still be tainted. This is much more high-level stuff than maphacking; I mean there is probably Korean mob ties to this, as organized crime almost always has a hand in illegal gambling and sports fixing. The biggest problem is that Kespa's contract rules and handling of free agency have made it so that taking these bribes sounds a hell of a lot more appealing to overworked or underpaid players. | ||
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