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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
April 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#521
Oh wow, those news are so disheartening ><
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
LaoShuAiDaMi
Profile Joined September 2009
United States88 Posts
April 12 2010 18:44 GMT
#522
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13922 Posts
April 12 2010 18:45 GMT
#523
gah where is this list QQ im dieing
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
April 12 2010 18:46 GMT
#524
going for sc2 bye korea!
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
April 12 2010 18:48 GMT
#525
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?

if you mean Jaedong getting paid to drop some games, then yes.
Forgetting upg can be common, like Savior's adrenal gland...

otherwise wtf are you talking about. Their skills are top notch.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 12 2010 18:49 GMT
#526
oh savior. noooo
cw)minsean(ru
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
April 12 2010 18:49 GMT
#527
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


It's been addressed somewhere in one of these threads (and by Rekrul, I believe) that games with close odds aren't usually the ones being scammed because there's not much money in it.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
April 12 2010 18:56 GMT
#528
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


..... defiler comes with dark swarm.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:02:36
April 12 2010 19:00 GMT
#529
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


cant up DS when defilers start out with it.....
i still truely believe that JD is not apart of this
i remember rek saying the real young players nto in this. wouldn't doubt it

edit: also found it funny amount of people who called bullshit on rek esp. right when waxangel made a blog similar. just shows that gambling and shit everywhere
Forever Young
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 12 2010 19:01 GMT
#530
On April 13 2010 03:49 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


It's been addressed somewhere in one of these threads (and by Rekrul, I believe) that games with close odds aren't usually the ones being scammed because there's not much money in it.


Besides, if you are going to fix a match, better not take a big one that will receive alot of attention. Better just to lose some random proleague match to a decent (but underdog) player. Especially towards the end of the season when alot of the sets don't matter that much for overall league standings. Very easy to get away undetected then.

I think it's kinda silly how people here bring up specific games (especially the bisu/savior final). If this really happened and these guys are good at what they do (and they probably are given how long they got away with it) then most of the matches that were fixed have long been forgotten as they were just not that memorable
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 12 2010 19:02 GMT
#531
its really obvious he meant consume, guys

But anyway, I agree that betting on JD vs. Flash would be a pretty dumb thing to fix considering there wouldn't be very good odds at all.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:05:12
April 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#532
Man, this might be the biggest scandal in e-sports so far sadly.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
April 12 2010 19:06 GMT
#533
i've always suspected that match-rigging is going on in korean pro-gaming scene, but i'm still surprised at the scale of this shit and the list of suspected players are disheartening...


truth hurts...
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
April 12 2010 19:07 GMT
#534
On April 13 2010 04:01 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 03:49 Musoeun wrote:
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


It's been addressed somewhere in one of these threads (and by Rekrul, I believe) that games with close odds aren't usually the ones being scammed because there's not much money in it.


Besides, if you are going to fix a match, better not take a big one that will receive alot of attention. Better just to lose some random proleague match to a decent (but underdog) player. Especially towards the end of the season when alot of the sets don't matter that much for overall league standings. Very easy to get away undetected then.

I think it's kinda silly how people here bring up specific games (especially the bisu/savior final). If this really happened and these guys are good at what they do (and they probably are given how long they got away with it) then most of the matches that were fixed have long been forgotten as they were just not that memorable


if you lose on purpose such a game is the best chance to make fucking much money. all savior had to do was to put all his money on bisu and lose and win like 10* more money. at that time bisu was a noname and savior a god. its like barcelona playing against some 3rd league team.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
HeartOfTofu
Profile Joined December 2009
United States308 Posts
April 12 2010 19:07 GMT
#535
wow... just wow... that's all i think i can say...
I like to asphixiate myself while covered in liquid latex... Do you?
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:09:10
April 12 2010 19:08 GMT
#536
How could you even bet on that game anyway, it was the ace match of a winners league series, no line-up was announced = no way to bet...
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
April 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#537
Does this mean that Savior can play good again anytime he wishes?
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
April 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#538
Coaches were involved? Well, I guess we know why Killer was put in for the ace match so much...
aka Moletrap
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
April 12 2010 19:13 GMT
#539
Wait, it's illegal in Korea to release criminal names... So how are we going to know who was actually doing this? Do we just wait around for months waiting for the players to be reported as "on indefinite leave due to illness" or "retiring" or whatever? Are we doomed to speculate till the end?
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PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 12 2010 19:13 GMT
#540
On April 13 2010 04:09 KungKras wrote:
Does this mean that Savior can play good again anytime he wishes?

No, because he will probably be blacklisted from proleague for this
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