• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:06
CET 03:06
KST 11:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2
Community News
BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion5Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)16Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 105
StarCraft 2
General
Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1167 users

Korea Swept In Illegal Starcraft League Gambling - Page 27

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 63 Next
CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
April 12 2010 18:42 GMT
#521
Oh wow, those news are so disheartening ><
Jang Yoon Chul hwaiting!
LaoShuAiDaMi
Profile Joined September 2009
United States88 Posts
April 12 2010 18:44 GMT
#522
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
April 12 2010 18:45 GMT
#523
gah where is this list QQ im dieing
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
April 12 2010 18:46 GMT
#524
going for sc2 bye korea!
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
April 12 2010 18:48 GMT
#525
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?

if you mean Jaedong getting paid to drop some games, then yes.
Forgetting upg can be common, like Savior's adrenal gland...

otherwise wtf are you talking about. Their skills are top notch.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
April 12 2010 18:49 GMT
#526
oh savior. noooo
cw)minsean(ru
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
April 12 2010 18:49 GMT
#527
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


It's been addressed somewhere in one of these threads (and by Rekrul, I believe) that games with close odds aren't usually the ones being scammed because there's not much money in it.
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
April 12 2010 18:56 GMT
#528
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


..... defiler comes with dark swarm.
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:02:36
April 12 2010 19:00 GMT
#529
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


cant up DS when defilers start out with it.....
i still truely believe that JD is not apart of this
i remember rek saying the real young players nto in this. wouldn't doubt it

edit: also found it funny amount of people who called bullshit on rek esp. right when waxangel made a blog similar. just shows that gambling and shit everywhere
Forever Young
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 12 2010 19:01 GMT
#530
On April 13 2010 03:49 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


It's been addressed somewhere in one of these threads (and by Rekrul, I believe) that games with close odds aren't usually the ones being scammed because there's not much money in it.


Besides, if you are going to fix a match, better not take a big one that will receive alot of attention. Better just to lose some random proleague match to a decent (but underdog) player. Especially towards the end of the season when alot of the sets don't matter that much for overall league standings. Very easy to get away undetected then.

I think it's kinda silly how people here bring up specific games (especially the bisu/savior final). If this really happened and these guys are good at what they do (and they probably are given how long they got away with it) then most of the matches that were fixed have long been forgotten as they were just not that memorable
Fantasy Fan! Gogogo vultures
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
April 12 2010 19:02 GMT
#531
its really obvious he meant consume, guys

But anyway, I agree that betting on JD vs. Flash would be a pretty dumb thing to fix considering there wouldn't be very good odds at all.
Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:05:12
April 12 2010 19:03 GMT
#532
Man, this might be the biggest scandal in e-sports so far sadly.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
April 12 2010 19:06 GMT
#533
i've always suspected that match-rigging is going on in korean pro-gaming scene, but i'm still surprised at the scale of this shit and the list of suspected players are disheartening...


truth hurts...
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
April 12 2010 19:07 GMT
#534
On April 13 2010 04:01 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2010 03:49 Musoeun wrote:
On April 13 2010 03:44 LaoShuAiDaMi wrote:
remember when jaedong lost to flash because he didn't get dark swarm despite having defiler mound for a good 5 minutes? It was the start of winners league i believe...looks suspicious now right?


It's been addressed somewhere in one of these threads (and by Rekrul, I believe) that games with close odds aren't usually the ones being scammed because there's not much money in it.


Besides, if you are going to fix a match, better not take a big one that will receive alot of attention. Better just to lose some random proleague match to a decent (but underdog) player. Especially towards the end of the season when alot of the sets don't matter that much for overall league standings. Very easy to get away undetected then.

I think it's kinda silly how people here bring up specific games (especially the bisu/savior final). If this really happened and these guys are good at what they do (and they probably are given how long they got away with it) then most of the matches that were fixed have long been forgotten as they were just not that memorable


if you lose on purpose such a game is the best chance to make fucking much money. all savior had to do was to put all his money on bisu and lose and win like 10* more money. at that time bisu was a noname and savior a god. its like barcelona playing against some 3rd league team.
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
HeartOfTofu
Profile Joined December 2009
United States308 Posts
April 12 2010 19:07 GMT
#535
wow... just wow... that's all i think i can say...
I like to asphixiate myself while covered in liquid latex... Do you?
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-12 19:09:10
April 12 2010 19:08 GMT
#536
How could you even bet on that game anyway, it was the ace match of a winners league series, no line-up was announced = no way to bet...
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
KungKras
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden484 Posts
April 12 2010 19:09 GMT
#537
Does this mean that Savior can play good again anytime he wishes?
"When life gives me lemons, I go look for oranges"
Moletrap
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1297 Posts
April 12 2010 19:12 GMT
#538
Coaches were involved? Well, I guess we know why Killer was put in for the ace match so much...
aka Moletrap
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
April 12 2010 19:13 GMT
#539
Wait, it's illegal in Korea to release criminal names... So how are we going to know who was actually doing this? Do we just wait around for months waiting for the players to be reported as "on indefinite leave due to illness" or "retiring" or whatever? Are we doomed to speculate till the end?
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
PanzerDragoon
Profile Joined March 2010
United States822 Posts
April 12 2010 19:13 GMT
#540
On April 13 2010 04:09 KungKras wrote:
Does this mean that Savior can play good again anytime he wishes?

No, because he will probably be blacklisted from proleague for this
Prev 1 25 26 27 28 29 63 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 2
Laughngamez YouTube
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 11694
Stork 274
Shuttle 74
NaDa 33
Noble 32
zelot 7
Dota 2
febbydoto29
LuMiX1
Other Games
summit1g7908
JimRising 459
XaKoH 201
ViBE134
KnowMe47
minikerr11
PiLiPiLi8
Ketroc7
Models1
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1168
StarCraft 2
WardiTV725
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 57
• davetesta45
• Airneanach14
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 76
• HerbMon 30
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21899
League of Legends
• Doublelift6307
Other Games
• imaqtpie3001
Upcoming Events
All-Star Invitational
54m
MMA vs DongRaeGu
herO vs Solar
Clem vs Reynor
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
7h 54m
OSC
9h 54m
Shameless vs NightMare
YoungYakov vs MaNa
Nicoract vs Jumy
Gerald vs TBD
Creator vs TBD
BSL 21
17h 54m
Bonyth vs Sziky
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Sziky vs XuanXuan
eOnzErG vs QiaoGege
Mihu vs DuGu
Dewalt vs Bonyth
IPSL
17h 54m
Dewalt vs Sziky
Replay Cast
1d 6h
Wardi Open
1d 9h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 14h
The PondCast
3 days
Big Brain Bouts
5 days
Serral vs TBD
[ Show More ]
BSL 21
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
OSC Championship Season 13
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W5
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.