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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 30 2010 00:40 GMT
#121
On March 30 2010 04:09 Mastermind wrote:
Its about time he retires. He only embarrasses himself by continuing with progaming.

Never again.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
eatmyshorts5
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1530 Posts
March 30 2010 00:40 GMT
#122
Eh SC2 i think could revive him. MAYBE
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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 30 2010 00:42 GMT
#123
On March 30 2010 08:35 Jaime Raine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 08:07 Bebop07 wrote:
Really hard to imagine this guy was once as feared/respected as Flash is now. I mean I was there during it, just really sad how far he fell.


Pfft, what a load of crap. Flash is a damn good player but nowhere near as scary as Savior was back in his era of dominance. With Flash you can expect other players (Jaedong, Stork) to give him a run for his money, but when you watched Savior play it used to be just to see how he overwhelms the other players' armies. Watching to see him 'compete' was out of the question - you simply presumed that he would auto-win, whether it be against Nada or iloveoov, it was just a question of how fucking awesomely he would do it.

I remember Rekrul saying something about how he ended up blowing all his money on whores though.


Actually that is incorrect. Savior, while dominant in leagues for a long time, never had the dominant streaks displayed by today's players. What he does have, is 4 starleague golds and 2 silvers, but never streaks. Current gen top progamers (like Flash and to a lesser extent JD) are more dominant.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10344 Posts
March 30 2010 00:44 GMT
#124
Sad, but won't really impact the general pro scene or CJ.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 30 2010 00:50 GMT
#125
On March 30 2010 09:42 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 08:35 Jaime Raine wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:07 Bebop07 wrote:
Really hard to imagine this guy was once as feared/respected as Flash is now. I mean I was there during it, just really sad how far he fell.


Pfft, what a load of crap. Flash is a damn good player but nowhere near as scary as Savior was back in his era of dominance. With Flash you can expect other players (Jaedong, Stork) to give him a run for his money, but when you watched Savior play it used to be just to see how he overwhelms the other players' armies. Watching to see him 'compete' was out of the question - you simply presumed that he would auto-win, whether it be against Nada or iloveoov, it was just a question of how fucking awesomely he would do it.

I remember Rekrul saying something about how he ended up blowing all his money on whores though.


Actually that is incorrect. Savior, while dominant in leagues for a long time, never had the dominant streaks displayed by today's players. What he does have, is 4 starleague golds and 2 silvers, but never streaks. Current gen top progamers (like Flash and to a lesser extent JD) are more dominant.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games

so what youre saying is.beating oov 3-0,nada 3-1, reach 3-1(i think?) and then beating silver or chojja one in a zvz bo5 in their respective primes(ok silver/chojja are doubtful) not being dominate?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 00:54:08
March 30 2010 00:53 GMT
#126
MA BONJWA

This thread feels a bit presumptuous though; he could just get surgery and come back; THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE GUYS. I think though, everyone has already stopped believing.

But I'm still here. I STILL BELIEVE.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
March 30 2010 00:54 GMT
#127
On March 30 2010 09:50 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 09:42 moopie wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:35 Jaime Raine wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:07 Bebop07 wrote:
Really hard to imagine this guy was once as feared/respected as Flash is now. I mean I was there during it, just really sad how far he fell.


Pfft, what a load of crap. Flash is a damn good player but nowhere near as scary as Savior was back in his era of dominance. With Flash you can expect other players (Jaedong, Stork) to give him a run for his money, but when you watched Savior play it used to be just to see how he overwhelms the other players' armies. Watching to see him 'compete' was out of the question - you simply presumed that he would auto-win, whether it be against Nada or iloveoov, it was just a question of how fucking awesomely he would do it.

I remember Rekrul saying something about how he ended up blowing all his money on whores though.


Actually that is incorrect. Savior, while dominant in leagues for a long time, never had the dominant streaks displayed by today's players. What he does have, is 4 starleague golds and 2 silvers, but never streaks. Current gen top progamers (like Flash and to a lesser extent JD) are more dominant.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games

so what youre saying is.beating oov 3-0,nada 3-1, reach 3-1(i think?) and then beating silver or chojja one in a zvz bo5 in their respective primes(ok silver/chojja are doubtful) not being dominate?


Not at all what I said. In fact, if you re-read my post, I mentioned he was dominating starleagues. All I said he never had long dominating streaks.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
March 30 2010 00:57 GMT
#128
I really hope (Z)sAviOr doesn't retire. My face if he retires : TT_TT My face if he starts raping progamers left and right : : D
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 30 2010 01:02 GMT
#129
On March 30 2010 09:54 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 09:50 arb wrote:
On March 30 2010 09:42 moopie wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:35 Jaime Raine wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:07 Bebop07 wrote:
Really hard to imagine this guy was once as feared/respected as Flash is now. I mean I was there during it, just really sad how far he fell.


Pfft, what a load of crap. Flash is a damn good player but nowhere near as scary as Savior was back in his era of dominance. With Flash you can expect other players (Jaedong, Stork) to give him a run for his money, but when you watched Savior play it used to be just to see how he overwhelms the other players' armies. Watching to see him 'compete' was out of the question - you simply presumed that he would auto-win, whether it be against Nada or iloveoov, it was just a question of how fucking awesomely he would do it.

I remember Rekrul saying something about how he ended up blowing all his money on whores though.


Actually that is incorrect. Savior, while dominant in leagues for a long time, never had the dominant streaks displayed by today's players. What he does have, is 4 starleague golds and 2 silvers, but never streaks. Current gen top progamers (like Flash and to a lesser extent JD) are more dominant.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games

so what youre saying is.beating oov 3-0,nada 3-1, reach 3-1(i think?) and then beating silver or chojja one in a zvz bo5 in their respective primes(ok silver/chojja are doubtful) not being dominate?


Not at all what I said. In fact, if you re-read my post, I mentioned he was dominating starleagues. All I said he never had long dominating streaks.

haha im sorry man i really misread that completely.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Swarmy
Profile Joined July 2008
Canada70 Posts
March 30 2010 01:07 GMT
#130
Savior was a great player; one of the greatest of all time, but it is a good time to retire in my opinion. At this point he's just tarnishing his reputation.

The lack of intense physical competition in "E-sports" lends itself to old washed up names (not to include Savior) returning from the grave to torture all their fans and embarrass themselves with their pathetic skillZ

Imagine Mario Lemieux lacing up the skates for one more season.
TheSpacePOPE
Profile Joined May 2009
United States4 Posts
March 30 2010 01:12 GMT
#131
Savior...
I hope for the best for one of my favorite Zerg players.
Sat Nam
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
March 30 2010 01:13 GMT
#132
I feel bad for him but how did he get a knee problem from sitting in front of a computer all day?
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
March 30 2010 01:20 GMT
#133
Sad to see. I wish him luck in the future if he does retire! I hope he becomes a coach or something though D:
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
March 30 2010 01:45 GMT
#134
On March 30 2010 10:13 il0seonpurpose wrote:
I feel bad for him but how did he get a knee problem from sitting in front of a computer all day?

you dont have the problem where your legs are bent all day they get too sore to move? idk (im just guessing really) maybe sitting infront of it degenerated part of his leg or something is the only thing i could come up with..they do , play sports so maybe that tore something or sped the process up.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
March 30 2010 02:27 GMT
#135
On March 30 2010 09:42 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 08:35 Jaime Raine wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:07 Bebop07 wrote:
Really hard to imagine this guy was once as feared/respected as Flash is now. I mean I was there during it, just really sad how far he fell.


Pfft, what a load of crap. Flash is a damn good player but nowhere near as scary as Savior was back in his era of dominance. With Flash you can expect other players (Jaedong, Stork) to give him a run for his money, but when you watched Savior play it used to be just to see how he overwhelms the other players' armies. Watching to see him 'compete' was out of the question - you simply presumed that he would auto-win, whether it be against Nada or iloveoov, it was just a question of how fucking awesomely he would do it.

I remember Rekrul saying something about how he ended up blowing all his money on whores though.


Actually that is incorrect. Savior, while dominant in leagues for a long time, never had the dominant streaks displayed by today's players. What he does have, is 4 starleague golds and 2 silvers, but never streaks. Current gen top progamers (like Flash and to a lesser extent JD) are more dominant.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games

WUT?
Most Jaedong's wins came from proleague, playing progamers no one even cares about... like.. ganzi... oh wait he lost to ganzi. rofl sAviOr got his wins from winning starleagues.. beating the best players 3-0.. I remember NaDa saying "The less games you play the harder it is to do well, you try to play as safe as possible, and it really increases your chances of losing" ... or something like that lol..
Basically.. sAviOr won an OSL on the most ridiculous maps playing terrans thats had insaneeeee tvz... like all their tvz winrates were like 10%+ higher lmao.

Flash is more dominant? Which is why he just lost an MSL to power outage.?. sAviOr overcame longinus/reverse temple/neo-arkanoid/hitch hiker, a simple power outage would've been simple..

I feel like 8 people at least will call me an idiot after this post.. its really hard to click the post button i swear.. im going to hit preview first methinks...
Entusman #51
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
March 30 2010 02:37 GMT
#136
On March 30 2010 11:27 Mobius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2010 09:42 moopie wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:35 Jaime Raine wrote:
On March 30 2010 08:07 Bebop07 wrote:
Really hard to imagine this guy was once as feared/respected as Flash is now. I mean I was there during it, just really sad how far he fell.


Pfft, what a load of crap. Flash is a damn good player but nowhere near as scary as Savior was back in his era of dominance. With Flash you can expect other players (Jaedong, Stork) to give him a run for his money, but when you watched Savior play it used to be just to see how he overwhelms the other players' armies. Watching to see him 'compete' was out of the question - you simply presumed that he would auto-win, whether it be against Nada or iloveoov, it was just a question of how fucking awesomely he would do it.

I remember Rekrul saying something about how he ended up blowing all his money on whores though.


Actually that is incorrect. Savior, while dominant in leagues for a long time, never had the dominant streaks displayed by today's players. What he does have, is 4 starleague golds and 2 silvers, but never streaks. Current gen top progamers (like Flash and to a lesser extent JD) are more dominant.

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/135_sAviOr/games

WUT?
Most Jaedong's wins came from proleague, playing progamers no one even cares about... like.. ganzi... oh wait he lost to ganzi. rofl sAviOr got his wins from winning starleagues.. beating the best players 3-0.. I remember NaDa saying "The less games you play the harder it is to do well, you try to play as safe as possible, and it really increases your chances of losing" ... or something like that lol..
Basically.. sAviOr won an OSL on the most ridiculous maps playing terrans thats had insaneeeee tvz... like all their tvz winrates were like 10%+ higher lmao.

Flash is more dominant? Which is why he just lost an MSL to power outage.?. sAviOr overcame longinus/reverse temple/neo-arkanoid/hitch hiker, a simple power outage would've been simple..

I feel like 8 people at least will call me an idiot after this post.. its really hard to click the post button i swear.. im going to hit preview first methinks...


That OSL Finals game between Savior and Nada on Reverse Temple will always be ingrained in my mind as the prime example of Savior's dominance. He basically threw map balance out the window.
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yes9111
Profile Joined May 2009
United States420 Posts
March 30 2010 02:38 GMT
#137
NO!
well.. you were loved Savior. Wish you the best luck MJY
STORK WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-30 02:43:31
March 30 2010 02:41 GMT
#138
ipxzerg is no more =(
I'm getting a little emo, just like when Xellos left sighs..
Xellos <3
d(O.o)a
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada5066 Posts
March 30 2010 03:02 GMT
#139
Never fear guys it's all a clever rouse so he can practice SC2 and become the first SC2 bonjwa.
Hi.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
March 30 2010 03:04 GMT
#140
NOOO THE ONLY BONJWA THAT ISN'T A TERRAN IS RETIRING!!!! This makes me so sad, watching sAviOr dominate the game was when I first started following the StarCraft scene! Who remembers that stats they showed when he was playing? Crazy!
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