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IcarusFalls
Profile Joined October 2003
Canada94 Posts
March 06 2004 15:06 GMT
#61
this is an advanced form of a watch.. it's really just like taking a watch with you and putting it next to your monitor
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
March 06 2004 20:32 GMT
#62
Sexy. One of my friends just started playing bw, and the only way I can think of to help him learn faster is to either watch and analyze replays with him, which he finds painfully boring, or tell him what to do while he plays. This program will make that so much easier.

At the same time, I think having to have a feel for the game is part of what makes it fun and constitutes much of the skill involved. Playing bw at a high level requires instincts and timing which enhance the game. Taking part of that away by having scrolling reminders for everything could suck.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
March 06 2004 20:47 GMT
#63
now i can have actually build orders for my terran and protoss instead of building anything in random order
AUSSIESCUM
TeamLiquid eSTROgeneral #1 • RIP
.PapaSmurf.
Profile Joined November 2002
Netherlands16 Posts
March 06 2004 21:20 GMT
#64
I wasn't sure where to post this because now there are two threads on the same subject, but here goes:

I like this program for two reasons:
1) It helps you improve your build orders. Sure you can analyse replays to death and write down everything or make your own log files, but this does that automatically AND it teaches you at the same time.

2) It helps you improve your routine. I myself have trouble getting supply up in time in late game. Now I'll have a program/personal agent to remind me to get supply up constantly, so I get used to doing it. This will improve my game greatly.

It's kind of a bio feedback program like bwchart or APM Live! so the advantage is real, but I didn't hear anybody complaining about that when the aforementioned programs were released.

Thanks for making another great program, jca, and I hope to try it out asap.

.PapaSmurf.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
March 06 2004 23:59 GMT
#65
On March 06 2004 11:25 amat wrote:
Interesting idea. Nice job as always jca

Wax already sent me a file so he doesn't have to join my games anymore:

main
title=Snorlax power
author=Waxangel
description=Waxangel's school of starcraft
date=06/03/2004

Snorlax
matchup=whatever, you suck
at=00:01,Good luck !, random j-pop sample.wav
at=00:02,:o
at=00:09,Scout now !
at=00:11, ; []
at=00:012,don't just sit there, do something!!
at=00:21, ; [
at=00:27,rar
at=00:29,just type gg
at=00:30,you suck like blaze
at=00:31,:o
at=00:41,build something!
at=00:45,your econ sucks
at=00:47,start mining!
at=00:53, ; [rar]
at=01:12,The enemy is at 6 your dead. scout next time
at=01:29,blah, i'm going to get food ; []


You have waaaay too much time on your hands, dear

Besides, i never played wax!
ModeratorFather of bunnies
Vi)Chris
Profile Joined January 2003
United States700 Posts
March 07 2004 03:02 GMT
#66
You guys are just afraid because all the newbies are gonna be mopping the floor with you in no times, kakaka~~
Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master.
Yarertz
Profile Joined February 2003
Djibouti1891 Posts
March 07 2004 03:18 GMT
#67

You guys are just afraid because all the newbies are gonna be mopping the floor with you in no times, kakaka~~

so true ~~
StarCraft : 26.IX.2001 - 8.XII.2004 (1167 days) R.I.P [`]
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
March 07 2004 03:39 GMT
#68
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Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
March 07 2004 04:14 GMT
#69
Rise of the Machines...
There was one really amazing gal. She was one of the biggest chick i ever seen.
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
March 07 2004 04:21 GMT
#70
Humans win that one all the time, don't they?
sideproject: twitch.tv Starcraft II Viewers data - http://twitchsc2data.com/
RuGbUg
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2347 Posts
March 07 2004 04:39 GMT
#71
If you have that hard of a time having fun and strategizing already, then play with your friends. When me and my friends 2v2, you see some crazy shit, like archon/da/temp masses vs mass queens/ult/hydra.

unlike you guys, we seem to have fun instead of complaining about anything we can
anguish: its like that time i asked my bestfriend who happened to be black if his dick was bigger than mine anguish: he got angry anguish: and told me i was racist and gay
HeroOfTheDaY-
Profile Joined August 2003
53 Posts
March 07 2004 05:13 GMT
#72
Stupid program plz don't finish it
Sorry, my english sux:(
VdP]TwistedEcho
Profile Joined February 2004
United Kingdom847 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-03-07 05:52:38
March 07 2004 05:52 GMT
#73
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STIMEY d okgm fish
Profile Joined August 2003
Canada6140 Posts
March 07 2004 05:59 GMT
#74
u can edit build order file until it fits a horrible noob perfectly.. e.g.

0:00=send workers to minerals
0:05=omg dude .... 1 on each mineral already
0:10=hurry up..... wtf
MannerKiss
Profile Joined June 2003
United States2398 Posts
March 07 2004 06:39 GMT
#75
I dont really care, however, I think that this will take the thinking out of brood war, and change it into a macro and micro contest

I would much rather have my builds off and know that my opponent was thinking for himself.
I want an igloo.
FloOfy
Profile Joined February 2004
Canada57 Posts
March 07 2004 08:08 GMT
#76
Question....how good is it? i mean...i personally have problems like...i make an island, defend it with canon, but forget to mine it...

or always forget to make supply late game, or to produce while i micro. After battle that i micro very well, im at like 2500 and ennemy renforcements come and gg...

Does this program really remind u of all this? it would be great ;p

Put a release date!! release a beta !!
Mess with the best, get owned like the resf
khv)kl10pa
Profile Joined September 2003
Russian Federation24 Posts
March 07 2004 13:09 GMT
#77
JCA, maybe someone already mentioned this (I'm too lazy to read all posts in the thread :p since most of them are ordinary flood), but. Can't the [COMMON] section be used to learn race of player who plays Random?

i.e. I'm Terran, my opponent is Random

...[COMMON]
MATCHUP=TvZ
00:01, He is Zerg

[COMMON]
MATCHUP=TvP
00:01, He is Protoss

[COMMON]
MATCHUP=TvT
00:01, He is Terran
Per aspera ad astra.
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
March 07 2004 13:25 GMT
#78

Well, it would be nice for the newer players to have a little help. But this shouldnt be a crutch. Or a wheelchair. Use it, get into the flow of the game, toss it and learn from experience afterwards.
Moonlight Shadow
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 07 2004 13:30 GMT
#79
I would use this for hilarity
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
March 07 2004 13:45 GMT
#80
JCA please don't misunderstand, it's not that I think that anyone at our level would be helped by a glorified timer much, but I do feel that the APM counter and scouting timer would be somewhat helpful even to someone at our level.

It's more the slippery slope that I'm worried about. If we condone and promote programs designed to make starcraft easier, what's next? I like starcraft as difficult as possible. I don't think this program will make a significant impact, I'm just worried about what may come next if this program becomes universally accepted.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
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