• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:02
CET 11:02
KST 19:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview11Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)39
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) KSL Week 85 OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open!
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Let's Get Creative–Video Gam…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1249 users

Flash's MSL Story - Page 6

Forum Index > BW General
398 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 20 Next All
ShivaN
Profile Joined January 2007
United States933 Posts
January 26 2010 16:14 GMT
#101
This just makes me love Flash even more! He's being so mature about the whole situation. Hearing what he says about those refs though makes me sick. It makes you wonder, had they just formally come out and apologized it may have helped his mental state some at the time and made for a better game 4. Ah well, there's always the next season. Flash fighting!
UnderWorld_Dream
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada219 Posts
January 26 2010 16:15 GMT
#102
ty for translating this for us.

The most wired country on earth and they get pwned by electricity. How ironic is that.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
January 26 2010 16:17 GMT
#103
On January 26 2010 23:32 psion0011 wrote:
I too am wondering why the optimal playing condition virtual studio wasn't even properly heated.


+1
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
yupyup
Profile Joined June 2009
Philippines36 Posts
January 26 2010 16:18 GMT
#104
so nice flash.
ohh the fanboyism.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
January 26 2010 16:18 GMT
#105
At the finals, I have expected everything except a game decision done by the Kespa refs. When they decided that Jaedong won the match, I knew deep down inside I will lose the finals. Any progamer in my shoes would've lost the whole thing too after the decision.

what a weak-ass, defeatist attitude :/
✌
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
January 26 2010 16:19 GMT
#106
Nice interview. Thanks for the translation!
When you arise in the morning, think of what a precious privilege it is to be alive - to breathe, to think, to enjoy, to love.
Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
January 26 2010 16:22 GMT
#107
On January 26 2010 23:09 Endurethetoothache wrote:
This is why I love (T)Flash! He's just the type of guy that when he gets knocked off the horse, he gets right back up again.


Totally agree. I feel he keeps getting knocked off the horse more times than he deserves though. Love to see him keep fighting! Go flash!
Empires are not brought down by outside forces - they are destroyed by weaknesses from within
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
January 26 2010 16:25 GMT
#108
On January 27 2010 01:05 FranzF1 wrote:
Actually I dont like this interview at all, yeah maybe Flash got owned by Kespa but he is insulting Jaedong.

He is saying:
1) I lost cus I didnt have a heater
2) I won like every normal game
3) Kespa owned me
4) I dont want to play so I lost

So he is saying that Jaedong only won by externals things and I think that Jaedong won because he was more prepared that Flash, its a shame that everything went like that but he just need to say: "Hey Kespa owned me in game 3" but not give escuse for the rest of the games.


It sounded more like "I know Jaedong is good and he beat me, but I really wish it had happened under better circumstances if it had to happen."

Which I'm pretty sure Jaedong would agree with.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 16:27:00
January 26 2010 16:25 GMT
#109
On January 26 2010 23:53 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 23:45 MrHoon wrote:
On January 26 2010 23:45 Scaramanga wrote:
Thanks for the interview mrhoon, and btw am i that certain flash fan?

nope~~~

Theres a bigger retard when it comes to flash fanboyism than me? wut
Oh god mbc, how did you not have heating in the middle of winter? The fail just keeps stacking up

I bet'cha I can match =))
.
.
.
+ Show Spoiler +
Most likely just more when it comes to KT overall but still!


Also, bon appetit Lee young ho!
In the woods, there lurks..
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
January 26 2010 16:29 GMT
#110
Flash seems like he handled it way better than most people would have.

It's such a shame it had to happen like that.

PS:
+ Show Spoiler +
Kespa seems like even bigger assholes after reading this. Can't wait for SC2 to get rid of them.
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
January 26 2010 16:30 GMT
#111
just waiting for kespa to take top spot in kespa rank this month
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
January 26 2010 16:33 GMT
#112
Thanks for the interview Hoon. I'm very surprised to learn that there wasn't adequate heating in the booth, that's just really sad (but I guess JD played worse than he could have too?)

Taking this unfortunate loss as an unprecedented and unique experience is definitely a great way of looking at it, all the best to Flash.

+ Show Spoiler [winners league] +
Glad Flash won over JD last night ^^


On January 27 2010 00:44 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 00:29 KwarK wrote:
On January 27 2010 00:25 fallingdream wrote:
On January 27 2010 00:22 Kyuki wrote:
<3 Flash.

He was defeated in Game3 though - I cant belive people even disagree with this.


If Flash says he had a decent chance, he had a decent chance and that's the end of it.

Flash is perhaps more biased than most. He's also pissed off with them so even if he knows they made the right call he'd be unlikely to absolve them.
Flash's opinion on someone else's game would be invaluable but on his own game he's hardly impartial. Just for reference, Fantasy said that the refs made the right call.

or MAYBE
just MAYBE
given that you dont even know anything about protoss you arent in a position to pass judgement on a tvz.


idra, too funny, too good
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 26 2010 16:34 GMT
#113
While I think Flash handled the situation rather well from a media perspective, I think his attitude in game 4 was pretty poor. Sure, you can be emotionally drained and whatnot, but that's not the heart of a champion. Gotta struggle through everything until victory. With the way Flash was playing, he DEFINITELY could have won, yet it seemed as if he just gave up in game 4. This interview pretty much proves it as well. You ain't gonna win with a mindset of "I can't win anymore". No matter the situation, just gotta get through it.
God Bless
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 26 2010 16:34 GMT
#114
If what Flash is saying about the referees is accurate, it sure vindicates KT to some extent.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2925 Posts
January 26 2010 16:36 GMT
#115
Is there an interview with JD as well? Or did I miss it?
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
January 26 2010 16:43 GMT
#116
I think everyone that is saying "flash should be a champion and not get bogged down from game 3!" is being a little harsh. Losing a tough game on your advantaged map is hard enough to deal with going into game 4, but having a game not even complete, having kespa refs basically lie to your face, and having your coaching staff and dad going berzerk will all put such an enormous strain on your mind and play that playing your best will basically be impossible.

Also I think people are underestimating JD when they said flash shouldve been able to just win game 4 and quit being a baby. JD was playing amazingly, so even the slightest mentally fucked flash would have been extremely difficult for flash to win on FS.

can't believe flash didn't have a heater!!!
ZeroCartin
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2390 Posts
January 26 2010 16:45 GMT
#117
On January 27 2010 01:18 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
At the finals, I have expected everything except a game decision done by the Kespa refs. When they decided that Jaedong won the match, I knew deep down inside I will lose the finals. Any progamer in my shoes would've lost the whole thing too after the decision.

what a weak-ass, defeatist attitude :/

This makes me think he was prepared to win on that map*3rd match*, and didnt care to lose the 4th game so he could then go onto the last map. Perhaps the 4th map wasnt his best map
"My sister is on vacation in Costa Rica right now. I hope she stays a while because she's a miserable cunt." -pubbanana
checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
January 26 2010 16:48 GMT
#118
On January 27 2010 01:36 Smorrie wrote:
Is there an interview with JD as well? Or did I miss it?

Only winner one and doesn't tlak about this at all
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
ArchoN[VenoM]
Profile Joined January 2010
United States90 Posts
January 26 2010 16:49 GMT
#119
WOW! That sucks about the refs thing. But i like what his coach said to him. Basically Flash has great experience now that no other player has had and that is going to help him in the long run... Glad to see 2 guys can be really cool with each other yet still play like they want to murder each other

Great interview
Life with every breath ~Bushido
Jayson X
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Switzerland2431 Posts
January 26 2010 16:53 GMT
#120
On January 27 2010 01:34 Roffles wrote:
While I think Flash handled the situation rather well from a media perspective, I think his attitude in game 4 was pretty poor. Sure, you can be emotionally drained and whatnot, but that's not the heart of a champion. Gotta struggle through everything until victory. With the way Flash was playing, he DEFINITELY could have won, yet it seemed as if he just gave up in game 4. This interview pretty much proves it as well. You ain't gonna win with a mindset of "I can't win anymore". No matter the situation, just gotta get through it.


Wasn't there this one tennis match where one player was losing and then they had to stop the game because of rain and then he came back and won the match?
I think noone doubts Flash's skill, it's more about the break & decision. kespa again not giving much of a fuck and probably his dad / coaching staff going apeshit was totaly unnecessary for his concentration in a high pressure final.

Plus his enemy was jdong. Sometimes they fight on such a different level where every advantage is a huge advantage. He probably felt like he had to run up mount everest after the break.

But i like his attitude. He's ready to move on and win more. Which just goes to show how much everything has changed. It's not about one title anymore, it's about titles & consistency.
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 20 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 13h 58m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech126
FoxeR 92
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 8099
Sea 2382
Rain 2365
Bisu 944
Bale 608
actioN 531
BeSt 373
Larva 294
Jaedong 264
JulyZerg 222
[ Show more ]
Shuttle 211
Stork 166
Zeus 130
Sharp 120
Soma 105
Killer 82
Pusan 52
Mind 52
ToSsGirL 36
Hm[arnc] 34
hero 32
yabsab 31
ggaemo 30
Shinee 29
GoRush 19
soO 15
ivOry 8
scan(afreeca) 8
Dota 2
febbydoto36
League of Legends
C9.Mang0288
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss784
allub266
edward195
Super Smash Bros
Westballz52
Other Games
ceh9645
WinterStarcraft548
Pyrionflax198
Sick145
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick858
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1709
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
13h 58m
Wardi Open
1d 1h
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-31
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W7
Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.