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annYeong(o11)
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada784 Posts
January 26 2010 18:08 GMT
#141
I can see Flash and Flash's dad were so upset after reading how the refs lied to Flash twice. That is no way for refs to behave, either you have the evidence or you don't. If I pulled this as a hockey ref probably would have been fired and had my certfication taken away from me.

I think they made the right call, but if they made it with their gut, they should tell Flash that, not lie about replays and seeing the mineral counter. After reading this I highly suspect they didn't check with other progamers about the outcome as they claimed. A Black spot on KeSPA, and an asterisk beside Jeadong's MSL title.
Founder of the KiWiKaKi Fanclub: teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=188537 my keyboard is like half broken. like terran. please ignore typos, thanks
-visnu-
Profile Joined April 2009
Australia149 Posts
January 26 2010 18:11 GMT
#142
On January 26 2010 23:09 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Like many of Flash's interviews, this one was amazingly candid and enlightening. Thank you so much for the translation.

Edit: Also makes KT's intention to boycott much more understandable, to be honest.




+1 !!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 26 2010 18:12 GMT
#143
On January 27 2010 03:08 annYeong(o11) wrote:
I can see Flash and Flash's dad were so upset after reading how the refs lied to Flash twice. That is no way for refs to behave, either you have the evidence or you don't. If I pulled this as a hockey ref probably would have been fired and had my certfication taken away from me.

I think they made the right call, but if they made it with their gut, they should tell Flash that, not lie about replays and seeing the mineral counter. After reading this I highly suspect they didn't check with other progamers about the outcome as they claimed. A Black spot on KeSPA, and an asterisk beside Jeadong's MSL title.


Why an asterisk beside JD's title? He won it fair and square with very good games.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
January 26 2010 18:13 GMT
#144
Great interview and I'm glad he's making it his last. Thanks Mr. Hoon. Can't believe people are calling him weak or disrespectful to JD though :/. Another thread I guess.

After MBC's apology and this I can feel a little bit better
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
January 26 2010 18:15 GMT
#145
Great interview, good to see he's taking it well, the whole situation was bad, but I hope both move past it and we see them meet up in the next OSL finals...
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42487 Posts
January 26 2010 18:15 GMT
#146
On January 27 2010 00:44 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 00:29 KwarK wrote:
On January 27 2010 00:25 fallingdream wrote:
On January 27 2010 00:22 Kyuki wrote:
<3 Flash.

He was defeated in Game3 though - I cant belive people even disagree with this.


If Flash says he had a decent chance, he had a decent chance and that's the end of it.

Flash is perhaps more biased than most. He's also pissed off with them so even if he knows they made the right call he'd be unlikely to absolve them.
Flash's opinion on someone else's game would be invaluable but on his own game he's hardly impartial. Just for reference, Fantasy said that the refs made the right call.

or MAYBE
just MAYBE
given that you dont even know anything about protoss you arent in a position to pass judgement on a tvz.

And if my point had been solely based off my own expertise at ZvT that would be a relevant point, albeit untrue. But I recall saying something about Fantasy.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ptz
Profile Joined January 2005
Romania251 Posts
January 26 2010 18:22 GMT
#147
wow, flash just gained a fan after this interview , even if terran is the race i dislike most and he is the exponent of evil
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
January 26 2010 18:24 GMT
#148
Long Live Lee Young Ho!
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 26 2010 18:26 GMT
#149
That interview made my day thanks MrHoon
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
rotinegg
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1719 Posts
January 26 2010 18:30 GMT
#150
i wouldnt say jaedong fans and flash fans hated each other, but neither were they the holy duo among fan bases -_- they held mutual respect for each other, but there definitely were the die-hard fans on each side arguing who should be b-word. I think it was also that bisu fans and jaedong fans hated eachother so much that in comparison the tension between flash and jaedong fans seemed much more mitigated
Translator
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7800 Posts
January 26 2010 18:34 GMT
#151
Kwark I'm sorry to take the bait and could continue in another thread if we have to but it seems like you're basically accusing Flash of lying because he doesnt agree with your strongly held viewpoint. When the player who was in the game, knew what he had (no one else did) and has the best TvZ of all time says he was still in it doesn't that make you rethink your opinion?

It's not like he's blindly angry, he's had days to analyze his own VOD, I think that should speak for its self. What's done is done and I'm not mad anymore but it seems like you're picking and choosing as you please in regards to what happened that night. (imo)

Anyways who cares now I guess. I'm just wondering because from my perspective it seems strange
Zelniq
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
United States7166 Posts
January 26 2010 18:35 GMT
#152
whoa flash's responses REALLY surprised me. what the christ kespa....and i was way wrong I guess flash thinks he was in a good position to win game 3
ModeratorBlame yourself or God
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
January 26 2010 18:39 GMT
#153
wow Dog SPA refs really dick about this.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 18:43:18
January 26 2010 18:43 GMT
#154
After + Show Spoiler +
today's JD vs Flash
, I'm sure Flash is capable of making comeback from very, very bad situations.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 26 2010 18:45 GMT
#155
On January 27 2010 03:34 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kwark I'm sorry to take the bait and could continue in another thread if we have to but it seems like you're basically accusing Flash of lying because he doesnt agree with your strongly held viewpoint. When the player who was in the game, knew what he had (no one else did) and has the best TvZ of all time says he was still in it doesn't that make you rethink your opinion?

It's not like he's blindly angry, he's had days to analyze his own VOD, I think that should speak for its self. What's done is done and I'm not mad anymore but it seems like you're picking and choosing as you please in regards to what happened that night. (imo)

Anyways who cares now I guess. I'm just wondering because from my perspective it seems strange

+1 kwark ego its too high

with flash interview the problem now is for kespa that need a reformation based on entertaining and including foreign fans too
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
MageKirby
Profile Joined July 2009
United States535 Posts
January 26 2010 18:45 GMT
#156
I wonder what he ordered with his dinner with JD
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42487 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 19:00:01
January 26 2010 18:50 GMT
#157
On January 27 2010 03:34 Vasoline73 wrote:
Kwark I'm sorry to take the bait and could continue in another thread if we have to but it seems like you're basically accusing Flash of lying because he doesnt agree with your strongly held viewpoint. When the player who was in the game, knew what he had (no one else did) and has the best TvZ of all time says he was still in it doesn't that make you rethink your opinion?

It's not like he's blindly angry, he's had days to analyze his own VOD, I think that should speak for its self. What's done is done and I'm not mad anymore but it seems like you're picking and choosing as you please in regards to what happened that night. (imo)

Anyways who cares now I guess. I'm just wondering because from my perspective it seems strange

I'm not at all accusing him of lying. I'm accusing him of bias. Totally different. It's impossible not to have bias in anything you have a stake in.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 18:58:53
January 26 2010 18:58 GMT
#158
Hey this isn't the full interview, a few questions missing?

And I fcuking knew it, refs taking the game out of his hands left him in the cold and ruined the whole thing. MBC/refs you suck donkey balls.
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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 26 2010 18:59 GMT
#159
Flash has seemingly took this very life changing catastrophe well. He's got a good head on his shoulders, despite collapsing to defeatism after the 3rd game. I hope we can see a JD vs Flash OSL finals next time so we get a proper venue.
Remember Violet.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 26 2010 19:05 GMT
#160
Very nice interview. That's the last I'm going to say about the final too. :p.
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