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checo
Profile Joined November 2008
Mexico1364 Posts
January 26 2010 16:53 GMT
#121
the kid grows fast =D
El amor no mueve al mundo, ni hace brillar el sol, pero el amor hace latir este corazon....
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
January 26 2010 16:54 GMT
#122
I am a die-hard Flash fanboy. After all of the controversy, my first thought is how much I want Flash to completely stomp Jaedong next time for what happened. But I know its not Jaedongs fault, and Im glad they are still friends.

Does anyone here think that MBC/kespa would possibly "rig" the series? Or somehow try and make Jaedong winning easier? Flash mentioned no heater, refs lying. It would seem crazy to thing they would do something like that. But obviously their decision making is sub-par.

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh, and I still want Flash to noob stomp Jaedong........ next time
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 26 2010 16:58 GMT
#123
love flash more and more :D thanks for the interview!
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 26 2010 17:01 GMT
#124
lol there was no heating for the first game? wow....

anyways, props to you flash. your reign is only beginning
When they see MC Probe, all the ladies disrobe.
RainmanMP
Profile Joined October 2007
United States1698 Posts
January 26 2010 17:02 GMT
#125
Flash is the best man. He's so mature for his age haha.
이영호 FIGHTING! Die Hard KT Rolster and Flash fan.
Corrupt
Profile Joined August 2009
Bulgaria1312 Posts
January 26 2010 17:06 GMT
#126
Winner buys dinner! Haha, what a nice way to say gg.
Just a guy trying to enjoy living in the worst timeline and failing miserably since 1990.
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
January 26 2010 17:07 GMT
#127
flash shouldn't have lost spirit after the 3rd set, but it was quite evident that this happened (and now he confirmed). IMO, the decision was correct and the least unfair option.

if it was the other way around, i doubt JD would've lost his will (he is known for his mental strenght), but it's a pointeless thing to discuss

The irony is that the heater they brought were the one to cause the accident, hopefully in the next epic finals we'll have competent people organizing it. And no stupid isolation of the players also
BW is back
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 26 2010 17:10 GMT
#128
On January 27 2010 01:53 Jayson X wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 01:34 Roffles wrote:
While I think Flash handled the situation rather well from a media perspective, I think his attitude in game 4 was pretty poor. Sure, you can be emotionally drained and whatnot, but that's not the heart of a champion. Gotta struggle through everything until victory. With the way Flash was playing, he DEFINITELY could have won, yet it seemed as if he just gave up in game 4. This interview pretty much proves it as well. You ain't gonna win with a mindset of "I can't win anymore". No matter the situation, just gotta get through it.


Wasn't there this one tennis match where one player was losing and then they had to stop the game because of rain and then he came back and won the match?
I think noone doubts Flash's skill, it's more about the break & decision. kespa again not giving much of a fuck and probably his dad / coaching staff going apeshit was totaly unnecessary for his concentration in a high pressure final.

Plus his enemy was jdong. Sometimes they fight on such a different level where every advantage is a huge advantage. He probably felt like he had to run up mount everest after the break.

But i like his attitude. He's ready to move on and win more. Which just goes to show how much everything has changed. It's not about one title anymore, it's about titles & consistency.

I really like how he's put everything behind him. The guy's gonna be real good. Just seeing his MnM troops roll out is fucking scary.
God Bless
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 26 2010 17:16 GMT
#129
hunting jaedong's pocket lol

nice attitude
woulda been nice to see why he thought he was in a good position, but o wells
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 17:21:17
January 26 2010 17:18 GMT
#130
On January 27 2010 01:18 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
At the finals, I have expected everything except a game decision done by the Kespa refs. When they decided that Jaedong won the match, I knew deep down inside I will lose the finals. Any progamer in my shoes would've lost the whole thing too after the decision.

what a weak-ass, defeatist attitude :/


JWD have you ever competed in a high level competition for anything before??

I have and lemme tell you when something truly stunning happens
it is really crushing and unbelievable. You are full of garbage to criticize his mental condition. It's not because he was weak, but rather that part of mental training is preparing yourself for every possible REALISTIC situation. When something insane and unprecedented happens it will shake you because you're coming in convinced that you're ready for anything (but of course you can only be 99% ready at best). It's a big part of being mentally prepared for a high pressure situation.

Now I'm not saying that excuses him completely. Fact is if you don't lose the next game you can't be eliminated and Flash lost sight of that amidst the chaos. Jaedong might have still pulled it out because he is such an incredible mental speciman. He is indeed the greatest mental control player ever and is pretty much on his way to being the greatest of all time for that reason. But Flash was giving his honest opinion and to call that a "weak ass defeatist attitude" reveals gross ignorance on your part. Just an absolutely terrible post.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 20:12:47
January 26 2010 17:18 GMT
#131
Seriously what kind of MSL finals was that : 1000 people , no heating for the players , Kespa lies to you ... And how can 1 heater cause a power outage :

Does anyone here think that MBC/kespa would possibly "rig" the series? Or somehow try and make Jaedong winning easier? Flash mentioned no heater, refs lying. It would seem crazy to thing they would do something like that. But obviously their decision making is sub-par.


Not that i think they would intentionally rig the series so that Jaedong would win although after hearing this interview it does seem suspicious .
I think Kespa just kinda " washed their hands from the whole thing " idea when they gave the win to Jaedong either way they would have suffered .
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 17:23:39
January 26 2010 17:21 GMT
#132
Amazing interview as always

Glad to see that Flash managed to get passed it. I believe he will get his dual next time

And if Flash said he was in decent position I am ready to believe it. Also, that belief was so much more important for his mental state later. If he was already ready to gg I'm sure he would move on. but he was trying to come back from in his perspective was not an impossible situation so yeah...

Flash usually is pretty honest about these things as well.

And wtf Kespa. Lying to player?! These refs should be fired immediately.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 26 2010 17:25 GMT
#133
I loved so much this interview man... i was worryed about flash's mental Strength after the power outrage... but it seems he got over it and he is good now. Way to go flash! way to goooo!
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
CursOr
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States6335 Posts
January 26 2010 17:35 GMT
#134
I've got a lot of respect for Flash, and he's got many more years of proving to us how brilliant he is.
CJ forever (-_-(-_-(-_-(-_-)-_-)-_-)-_-)
gjg.instinct
Profile Joined May 2009
144 Posts
January 26 2010 17:36 GMT
#135
The real shame would have been if the two best pro gamers in the world had developed isolation from each other. LJD and LYH are probably the only players amongst whom TvZ can be brought to a higher level.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 26 2010 17:40 GMT
#136
Flash manner bonjwa
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 26 2010 17:50 GMT
#137
The best thing is that this wont harm JD's and Flash's friendship.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
iRRelevance
Profile Joined June 2009
Romania725 Posts
January 26 2010 17:54 GMT
#138
I think Flash lost in MSL because he wanted dinner. SNEEAAAKY.
"You can ... draw sounds ?"
IceCube
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Croatia1403 Posts
January 26 2010 18:03 GMT
#139
Great interview. Also thanks for translation! Love Flash with every new interview more and more. Really that was the worst finals in sc history, and I mean that in every possible way.
Forever Vulture.. :(
masami.sc
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States445 Posts
January 26 2010 18:08 GMT
#140
Flash is very mature for his age. And it's nice to see that the two have such a great friendship - rivalries are exciting, but the fact that they are good friends makes it even more interesting. Flash hwaiting!
mmmmm...
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