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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 26 2010 14:55 GMT
#61
Good to hear from Flash's perspective. It's so heartbreaking to have game 3 end like that.
Brood War loyalist
banana
Profile Joined January 2009
Netherlands1189 Posts
January 26 2010 14:57 GMT
#62
putting aside liking or not liking the studio and who should have won ;

- no heating
- power loss
- telling the players he was behind from replay, while there was no replay, to justify decision

GG kespa, GG mbc
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 26 2010 14:59 GMT
#63
On January 26 2010 23:57 banana wrote:
putting aside liking or not liking the studio and who should have won ;

- no heating
- power loss
- telling the players he was behind from replay, while there was no replay, to justify decision

GG kespa, GG mbc

you forgot
- when people found out there was no replay, make up another bullshit lie "ya we were watching ur monitor lulz"
beep boop
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
January 26 2010 14:59 GMT
#64
I love hearing from Flash. He's a great player at a young age and I hope he goes really far. A little saddened to hear that he thought he was in a good position. And the KESPA referees being assholes is just sad. Promote some progamers instead. Reach, Yellow and Nada would be excellent judges.

Nice to hear KT is taking care of him. And from the looks of it he's heading for a Pro League win and a Player of the year award . . . not to mention his OSL GOLD and MSL silver. Flash fighting.

Thanks a lot for the translation.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 26 2010 15:01 GMT
#65
Flash is so damn awesome! Collected his inner calmness despite the bullshit he has been forced through.

No heating, incompetent referees (and there are indeed 3 of them), bullshit final stage, electric outage, etc.

Perhaps Flash's B-word run is not over yet.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
January 26 2010 15:02 GMT
#66
Flash seems like a really cool guy, but i still have to go with my opinion that the decision was "fair" under those circumstances. I am sorry for him though.

I still don't understand korean mentality. They are all so hardworking and respectful people and sc progaming is very big there. You have price of 40 000$ for the winner and they introduce players to the freezing booth and are like: here you go sir, with smile. Seriously fucked up
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
Reaper9
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1724 Posts
January 26 2010 15:04 GMT
#67
To understand Korean mentality, watch their soap operas ;D. My parents do, good lord.
I post only when my brain works.
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
January 26 2010 15:08 GMT
#68
It still amazes me how professional and mature Flash is at the age of 17. Thanks!
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
January 26 2010 15:10 GMT
#69
Anyone playing in a live gaming tournament should carry a heatable hand warmer, I know I always did. You can buy them online and even in SUMMER they help; sometimes hands/fingers just get cold. There are bound to be bad conditions sometimes, and it is up to the player to anticipate them and do something to minimize them. He could have prevented his hands from being cold, but nothing he could have done could prevent the travesty that happened in match 3. I can't imagine even a foreign LAN tournament being this unprepared and professional.

Funny thing, this SAME EXACT THING happened to me in WCG one year, and guess what? They had UPS's set up and were able to get the replay to at least have both players and all the refs watch it, and asked the loser if he agreed that the game was over, and it went much more smoothly being able to go over the replay and see who had how many resources, units, map control, tech, etc. It's pathetic that the MSL finals are less professional and less prepared than WCG, who is notorious for messing things up.
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
January 26 2010 15:14 GMT
#70
LOLOL.
WCG>MBC...
That's a serious insult!!
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33606 Posts
January 26 2010 15:20 GMT
#71
hoon... Korean Flash and Jaedong fanboys fight online more viciously than anyone on TL
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Kyuki
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1867 Posts
January 26 2010 15:22 GMT
#72
<3 Flash.

He was defeated in Game3 though - I cant belive people even disagree with this.
Mada Mada Dane
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 26 2010 15:23 GMT
#73
trying to take korean flaming seriously is like trying to take 4chan arguments seriously

for all we know, it might be 1 guy behind 20 proxies.
dats racist
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 26 2010 15:25 GMT
#74
On January 27 2010 00:22 Kyuki wrote:
<3 Flash.

He was defeated in Game3 though - I cant belive people even disagree with this.


If Flash says he had a decent chance, he had a decent chance and that's the end of it.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
January 26 2010 15:25 GMT
#75
I'm a Flash fan now. I feel bad for him for what happened.


This finals does not tell me who was the better player overall.


I want them to play again.
We decide our own destiny
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43989 Posts
January 26 2010 15:26 GMT
#76
Partially explains the blackout. They fucked up not planning enough heating (I can't play well when it's even a little cold) so they plugged in an electric heater to the power adapter everything else was on. They didn't plan to use it so it wasn't tested etc. Daisy chained and boom.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
January 26 2010 15:26 GMT
#77
kespa wow :[
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43989 Posts
January 26 2010 15:29 GMT
#78
On January 27 2010 00:25 fallingdream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 00:22 Kyuki wrote:
<3 Flash.

He was defeated in Game3 though - I cant belive people even disagree with this.


If Flash says he had a decent chance, he had a decent chance and that's the end of it.

Flash is perhaps more biased than most. He's also pissed off with them so even if he knows they made the right call he'd be unlikely to absolve them.
Flash's opinion on someone else's game would be invaluable but on his own game he's hardly impartial. Just for reference, Fantasy said that the refs made the right call.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
monstar123
Profile Joined December 2008
United States516 Posts
January 26 2010 15:30 GMT
#79
I hate Kespa ! It was not JD>Flash
It was Kespa > Flash
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
January 26 2010 15:31 GMT
#80
hi hi can you guys keep the whole "flash was wrong blah blah" crap out of this thread?

we already have 2 for that~
dats racist
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