• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 10:41
CET 16:41
KST 00:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice6Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
Vitality disbanding their sc2-team How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash's ASL S21 & Future Plans Announcement Gypsy to Korea BW General Discussion
Tourneys
ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile PC Games Sales Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
ONE GREAT AMERICAN MARINE…
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2920 users

eSTRO vs GosI[Terran] - TvZ - Page 7

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 13 2010 15:33 GMT
#121
its a pity that he lost (quite horribly too), i guess a b-teamer is no joke
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
January 13 2010 15:51 GMT
#122
i'm sick and tired of having our latinoamerican reputation thrown in the trash because of players by the likes of deska who play nothing but cheesefuck shit.

i root for you gositerran, but i think you're respected because terran just does not have that much cheese. how else do you think the term 'peruvian zerg' came to be in the first place?

fuck
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
January 13 2010 16:00 GMT
#123
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~
Moderator
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
January 13 2010 16:07 GMT
#124
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~

Eh, he never really got past his choke, and the moment he did, he got destroyed. :S How can you say he was playing well?
HitEmUp
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
January 13 2010 16:10 GMT
#125
On January 14 2010 01:07 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~

Eh, he never really got past his choke, and the moment he did, he got destroyed. :S How can you say he was playing well?


romanian much?
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
January 13 2010 16:11 GMT
#126
Man TvZ is such a scary match to play, I can't even begin to imagine how he felt playing against someone who is as skilled as 45 is. Korean Zergs are insane, I thought he held up pretty well overall. He was probably nervous, I would have been shitting myself.
Chains none
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
January 13 2010 16:12 GMT
#127
I wouldn't say he played badly more like pretty solid for a foreigner. There was no huge fatal mistake in either game i believe and his opponent seemed really good. It's just that he kept getting more and more behind with every minute in each game. There was never really a moment where you would think that he had an advantage or a situation that looked like he could turn the table. Little things like forgetting scvs and sloppy marine control due to nervousness didn't help.
So while his play looked solid imho it looked also pretty unimpressive. I doubt he made an impression on the estro coaching staff.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#128
what was score? i dont have time to see the vods atm
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
January 13 2010 16:32 GMT
#129
lost allofem
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
January 13 2010 16:55 GMT
#130
On January 14 2010 01:22 MorroW wrote:
what was score? i dont have time to see the vods atm



+ Show Spoiler +
he lost 2-0
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10016 Posts
January 13 2010 17:18 GMT
#131
t's fact timing was so off (im sure he knows this but why come out with your rines and lose them without doing any damage when you could have kept them in your main to defend his muts and get your fact up faster).. i dont play t but even i know that there has to be some sort of timing push involved before the defilers come out, it just looked like whatever he was doing had no purpose

he played bad but im 100% sure it was due to his nerves
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
January 13 2010 17:24 GMT
#132
On January 14 2010 01:07 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~

Eh, he never really got past his choke, and the moment he did, he got destroyed. :S How can you say he was playing well?

Yea, and against 2 Hatch into Hive that's pretty standard. He moved out around the map and had good defense and reasonable micro. What more can you expect? It's silly to say "he never did this" without considering the strategies.
Moderator
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 13 2010 17:50 GMT
#133
On January 14 2010 00:33 We Are Here wrote:
its a pity that he lost (quite horribly too), i guess a b-teamer is no joke


Since when was being a b-teamer a joke?
We make fun of A-teamers that mess up because we expect better from them, but becoming a progamer isn't an easy thing to do. Give them some credit.
Sullifam
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
January 13 2010 18:17 GMT
#134
Thanks for the games Artosis.

+ Show Spoiler +

I thought Gosi had a chance of coming back first game when he trapped and killed off all the mutas. Seemed like he was on 2 rax for a long time though? Not a bad showing overall. Think about some of the previous B-teamers Artosis has set up matches vs top foreigners. Ret vs If.Classic was a pretty dominate victory for Classic (though the second game was good), and then we saw Classic defeat Best, one of the best PvTers, with a well done deep six in proleague this season. There have been much worse matchups (remember incontrol vs fancy? was painful).
coffeetoss | "Team Liquid Fantasy Proleague: Tales of Miserable Failure and Deep Regret" -Kanil
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
January 13 2010 20:33 GMT
#135
On January 13 2010 13:30 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 10:46 SoL[9] wrote:
On January 13 2010 10:25 IdrA wrote:
because the two things are entirely unrelated?


Well not really atleast imo.

My english is very bad but i will try to explain you.

I think is related because is a question of phases. Your are the best example in here for me explain.
I dunno your history but in pretty sure that you dont wake up one day and say "I give up of astronaut now i want to be progamer at BW" ^^ Or one day you decide "Fuck i really want to be progamer, i will train, and fight for what i want!!!!" Right?

To be progamer i think you cant be "phases" but you need to be SOLID mind.
He cant decide a small thing that is like join a clan but he can decide the way of his life???
For me dont make any sense.
Or he like rabbits (jump in clan in clan) or he is still have the mind of a kid.
No offense tho is just that minds of kids is all about dreams and pray about that dreams and hope for a miracle.

But you know that to be progamer is not like that...Dont you Idra?

except throughout all his clan hopping he has worked towards being a progamer, and remained in gosi the entire time, which is far more important towards accomplishing his goals. dont try to psychoanalyze someone just cuz they keep forgetting foreign teams are a waste of time.


Ok Idra i understand his "mind"
I Can Fly...
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
January 13 2010 20:56 GMT
#136
to be honest i know gosi[terran] aka artofterrans for a long time, he was terrible a year ago but has improve a lot, give the guy a break his like 15 years old.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 13 2010 21:05 GMT
#137
On January 13 2010 21:42 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 21:02 Foucault wrote:
On January 13 2010 17:41 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 13 2010 17:28 IdrA wrote:
On January 13 2010 16:57 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On January 13 2010 16:25 IdrA wrote:
geoff why do you menstruate
afaik thats not common in men


If having a bad attitude is menstruating you should see a doctor about your menopause.

theres a difference between having a bad attitude and being a bitch

LOL

Game over.

Anyway I just had a halarious memory. Artosis hyped up deska too LOL.


Who the hell is deska?

Btw, I watched both games yesterday. I am very disappoint, maybe the kid was nervous but he sucked pretty badly in all honesty.

However, it's awesome to see foreigners play koreans so keep it up!


from what i've seen deska is your run of the mill latin-american zerg (does nothing but cheesy shit)


Dan Stemkoski seems to like latin-american gamers imo
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
January 13 2010 21:05 GMT
#138
i'm pretty sure he was born in 1992, so he's not 15 :X
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 21:09:17
January 13 2010 21:08 GMT
#139
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~


Really? Well, lots of small stuff: bad control, timings, leaving medics by the lurkers, loosing lots of sci vessels (due to bad control). Also he didn't do anything that game really and hardly left his nat. Seems like he didn't know what to do at all, wandering around aimlessly with his m&m, being way too defensive.

I guess it's easier to see the small stuff if you're a terran player.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25993 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 21:25:25
January 13 2010 21:17 GMT
#140
On January 14 2010 06:08 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~


Really? Well, lots of small stuff: bad control, timings, leaving medics by the lurkers, loosing lots of sci vessels (due to bad control). Also he didn't do anything that game really and hardly left his nat. Seems like he didn't know what to do at all, wandering around aimlessly with his m&m, being way too defensive.

I guess it's easier to see the small stuff if you're a terran player.

It's also easy to critically judge small things individually and not look at the whole picture.

Edit: My meaning is that people often pick away at the slimmest of details for foreigners. It's really hard to play quickly against a progamer and keep all your timings proper and not get absolutely raped by 2 hatch muta. Which is why I stand by my original comment.
Moderator
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Winter Champion…
12:00
Playoffs
Classic vs Rogue
Solar vs Gerald
Bunny vs Nicoract
ByuN vs Zoun
herO vs Clem
MaxPax vs Cure
WardiTV1424
TKL 391
IndyStarCraft 245
EnkiAlexander 62
IntoTheiNu 15
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko455
TKL 391
IndyStarCraft 245
Rex 129
Vindicta 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 26322
Sea 23849
firebathero 630
Pusan 49
[sc1f]eonzerg 37
NaDa 34
Rock 28
Dota 2
Gorgc5666
monkeys_forever180
Counter-Strike
fl0m2005
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King72
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor222
Other Games
B2W.Neo1129
singsing253
DeMusliM177
Fuzer 146
Mlord128
KnowMe98
QueenE53
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream8522
PGL Dota 2 - Secondary Stream1466
Other Games
BasetradeTV47
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• 3DClanTV 58
• iHatsuTV 13
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• Adnapsc2 0
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 27
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis8135
• Jankos2019
• TFBlade834
• Stunt504
Upcoming Events
AI Arena Tournament
4h 19m
Patches Events
7h 19m
Replay Cast
8h 19m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
18h 19m
RSL Revival
18h 19m
Classic vs TriGGeR
Cure vs Cham
WardiTV Winter Champion…
20h 19m
OSC
20h 49m
BSL
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 8h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
[ Show More ]
Monday Night Weeklies
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-05
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.