• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 17:19
CET 23:19
KST 07:19
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation8Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle RSL S3 Round of 16 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1605 users

eSTRO vs GosI[Terran] - TvZ - Page 7

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
We Are Here
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Australia1810 Posts
January 13 2010 15:33 GMT
#121
its a pity that he lost (quite horribly too), i guess a b-teamer is no joke
He who turns those around him into allies, possesses the most terrifying ability in the world.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
January 13 2010 15:51 GMT
#122
i'm sick and tired of having our latinoamerican reputation thrown in the trash because of players by the likes of deska who play nothing but cheesefuck shit.

i root for you gositerran, but i think you're respected because terran just does not have that much cheese. how else do you think the term 'peruvian zerg' came to be in the first place?

fuck
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
January 13 2010 16:00 GMT
#123
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~
Moderator
ZZangDreamjOy
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada959 Posts
January 13 2010 16:07 GMT
#124
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~

Eh, he never really got past his choke, and the moment he did, he got destroyed. :S How can you say he was playing well?
HitEmUp
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
January 13 2010 16:10 GMT
#125
On January 14 2010 01:07 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~

Eh, he never really got past his choke, and the moment he did, he got destroyed. :S How can you say he was playing well?


romanian much?
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
LordWeird
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States3411 Posts
January 13 2010 16:11 GMT
#126
Man TvZ is such a scary match to play, I can't even begin to imagine how he felt playing against someone who is as skilled as 45 is. Korean Zergs are insane, I thought he held up pretty well overall. He was probably nervous, I would have been shitting myself.
Chains none
Substandard
Profile Joined October 2008
Italy270 Posts
January 13 2010 16:12 GMT
#127
I wouldn't say he played badly more like pretty solid for a foreigner. There was no huge fatal mistake in either game i believe and his opponent seemed really good. It's just that he kept getting more and more behind with every minute in each game. There was never really a moment where you would think that he had an advantage or a situation that looked like he could turn the table. Little things like forgetting scvs and sloppy marine control due to nervousness didn't help.
So while his play looked solid imho it looked also pretty unimpressive. I doubt he made an impression on the estro coaching staff.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
January 13 2010 16:22 GMT
#128
what was score? i dont have time to see the vods atm
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
January 13 2010 16:32 GMT
#129
lost allofem
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
January 13 2010 16:55 GMT
#130
On January 14 2010 01:22 MorroW wrote:
what was score? i dont have time to see the vods atm



+ Show Spoiler +
he lost 2-0
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10011 Posts
January 13 2010 17:18 GMT
#131
t's fact timing was so off (im sure he knows this but why come out with your rines and lose them without doing any damage when you could have kept them in your main to defend his muts and get your fact up faster).. i dont play t but even i know that there has to be some sort of timing push involved before the defilers come out, it just looked like whatever he was doing had no purpose

he played bad but im 100% sure it was due to his nerves
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
January 13 2010 17:24 GMT
#132
On January 14 2010 01:07 ZZangDreamjOy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~

Eh, he never really got past his choke, and the moment he did, he got destroyed. :S How can you say he was playing well?

Yea, and against 2 Hatch into Hive that's pretty standard. He moved out around the map and had good defense and reasonable micro. What more can you expect? It's silly to say "he never did this" without considering the strategies.
Moderator
ghostWriter
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3302 Posts
January 13 2010 17:50 GMT
#133
On January 14 2010 00:33 We Are Here wrote:
its a pity that he lost (quite horribly too), i guess a b-teamer is no joke


Since when was being a b-teamer a joke?
We make fun of A-teamers that mess up because we expect better from them, but becoming a progamer isn't an easy thing to do. Give them some credit.
Sullifam
Trap
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States395 Posts
January 13 2010 18:17 GMT
#134
Thanks for the games Artosis.

+ Show Spoiler +

I thought Gosi had a chance of coming back first game when he trapped and killed off all the mutas. Seemed like he was on 2 rax for a long time though? Not a bad showing overall. Think about some of the previous B-teamers Artosis has set up matches vs top foreigners. Ret vs If.Classic was a pretty dominate victory for Classic (though the second game was good), and then we saw Classic defeat Best, one of the best PvTers, with a well done deep six in proleague this season. There have been much worse matchups (remember incontrol vs fancy? was painful).
coffeetoss | "Team Liquid Fantasy Proleague: Tales of Miserable Failure and Deep Regret" -Kanil
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
January 13 2010 20:33 GMT
#135
On January 13 2010 13:30 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 10:46 SoL[9] wrote:
On January 13 2010 10:25 IdrA wrote:
because the two things are entirely unrelated?


Well not really atleast imo.

My english is very bad but i will try to explain you.

I think is related because is a question of phases. Your are the best example in here for me explain.
I dunno your history but in pretty sure that you dont wake up one day and say "I give up of astronaut now i want to be progamer at BW" ^^ Or one day you decide "Fuck i really want to be progamer, i will train, and fight for what i want!!!!" Right?

To be progamer i think you cant be "phases" but you need to be SOLID mind.
He cant decide a small thing that is like join a clan but he can decide the way of his life???
For me dont make any sense.
Or he like rabbits (jump in clan in clan) or he is still have the mind of a kid.
No offense tho is just that minds of kids is all about dreams and pray about that dreams and hope for a miracle.

But you know that to be progamer is not like that...Dont you Idra?

except throughout all his clan hopping he has worked towards being a progamer, and remained in gosi the entire time, which is far more important towards accomplishing his goals. dont try to psychoanalyze someone just cuz they keep forgetting foreign teams are a waste of time.


Ok Idra i understand his "mind"
I Can Fly...
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
January 13 2010 20:56 GMT
#136
to be honest i know gosi[terran] aka artofterrans for a long time, he was terrible a year ago but has improve a lot, give the guy a break his like 15 years old.
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
January 13 2010 21:05 GMT
#137
On January 13 2010 21:42 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 21:02 Foucault wrote:
On January 13 2010 17:41 AttackZerg wrote:
On January 13 2010 17:28 IdrA wrote:
On January 13 2010 16:57 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
On January 13 2010 16:25 IdrA wrote:
geoff why do you menstruate
afaik thats not common in men


If having a bad attitude is menstruating you should see a doctor about your menopause.

theres a difference between having a bad attitude and being a bitch

LOL

Game over.

Anyway I just had a halarious memory. Artosis hyped up deska too LOL.


Who the hell is deska?

Btw, I watched both games yesterday. I am very disappoint, maybe the kid was nervous but he sucked pretty badly in all honesty.

However, it's awesome to see foreigners play koreans so keep it up!


from what i've seen deska is your run of the mill latin-american zerg (does nothing but cheesy shit)


Dan Stemkoski seems to like latin-american gamers imo
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
leMaj24
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States262 Posts
January 13 2010 21:05 GMT
#138
i'm pretty sure he was born in 1992, so he's not 15 :X
Foucault
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden2826 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 21:09:17
January 13 2010 21:08 GMT
#139
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~


Really? Well, lots of small stuff: bad control, timings, leaving medics by the lurkers, loosing lots of sci vessels (due to bad control). Also he didn't do anything that game really and hardly left his nat. Seems like he didn't know what to do at all, wandering around aimlessly with his m&m, being way too defensive.

I guess it's easier to see the small stuff if you're a terran player.
I know that deep inside of you there's a humongous set of testicles just waiting to pop out. Let 'em pop bro. //////////////////// AKA JensOfSweden // Lee Yoon Yeol forever.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25988 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 21:25:25
January 13 2010 21:17 GMT
#140
On January 14 2010 06:08 Foucault wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2010 01:00 Chill wrote:
Just watched the games. I thought he played pretty well in game 1 actually. Not sure why everyone is saying he played horribly... :O~


Really? Well, lots of small stuff: bad control, timings, leaving medics by the lurkers, loosing lots of sci vessels (due to bad control). Also he didn't do anything that game really and hardly left his nat. Seems like he didn't know what to do at all, wandering around aimlessly with his m&m, being way too defensive.

I guess it's easier to see the small stuff if you're a terran player.

It's also easy to critically judge small things individually and not look at the whole picture.

Edit: My meaning is that people often pick away at the slimmest of details for foreigners. It's really hard to play quickly against a progamer and keep all your timings proper and not get absolutely raped by 2 hatch muta. Which is why I stand by my original comment.
Moderator
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 41m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
White-Ra 529
PiGStarcraft329
JuggernautJason118
Livibee 109
ZombieGrub74
ProTech40
ForJumy 17
SpeCial 9
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 2282
Shuttle 507
UpATreeSC 125
sas.Sziky 75
Rock 34
Sexy 24
NaDa 14
ivOry 11
Dota 2
syndereN240
Counter-Strike
Foxcn354
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King77
Other Games
Grubby5124
Liquid`Hasu269
C9.Mang079
Maynarde61
Nathanias23
febbydoto3
fpsfer 2
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 46
• RyuSc2 11
• Adnapsc2 5
• Dystopia_ 3
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21033
• WagamamaTV437
• lizZardDota245
League of Legends
• imaqtpie3505
• TFBlade997
Other Games
• Shiphtur277
Upcoming Events
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
41m
The PondCast
11h 41m
RSL Revival
11h 41m
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
13h 41m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Classic vs Cure
Reynor vs TBD
WardiTV Korean Royale
13h 41m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 2h
RSL Revival
1d 11h
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
1d 13h
herO vs TBD
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
2 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
BSL 21
3 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
3 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
4 days
Wardi Open
4 days
Monday Night Weeklies
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.