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Russian Federation1613 Posts
Russian programmists created a new launcher recently. I played it yesterday.
Here is its main features:
- It has internal plugins in itself, including LAN Latency, join-alarm, APM alarm (all we had before)
- It has auto-find-opponent feature like in WC3 !!!
- It has its own rating system working like ELO rank. So auto-finder will find an opponent as strong as you.
- Currently it supports few last maps of ICCup. More maps will be added later.
- U can auto-find by map and by race. So, typing "/find desti z" means that u will be joined to Zerg player on Destination map.
List of main commands:
/find - find random opponent on random map of your skill-level
/find z - find Zerg player
/find z desti - find Zerg player on Destination
/find z desti join - find Zerg player on Destination, u will only join, not create map
/stats - Stats
/maps - list of maps shortenings
If u know russian or use translation:
http://sc2tv.ru/all/sc2tv-news/1327-start-publichnogo-beta-testa-starcraft-servera.html
copy paste the link
Also, here is the direct link to the launcher:
http://sc2tv.ru/uploads/sc2tvLauncherSetup.exe
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Any idea about the anti-hack?
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awesome, if this works they can delay starcraft 2 forever 
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this sounds amazing. id switch from iccup tp this if there's a strong enough user base.
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Germany2896 Posts
Basically it's a modded Chaoslauncher with a LatencyChanger which is set to always on and a new plugin.
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They should combine this with iccup.
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They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people.
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On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people.
that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators
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On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators
Yeah. A cancer on SC.
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On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators
lol i don't think it's that bad...
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This servers pretty great actually just tried it. Not too many people yet but in a few days it should be booming, russia has a decent sc community.
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On December 23 2009 23:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators lol i don't think it's that bad...
You aren't playing at D+/C- level are you
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its better if they just teamwork with iccup to make iccup better. dont split up the community t.t
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Omg, I really hope that iCCup works with this and involves the new ELO rank system. That would be cool, or if they found a way to keep the ranks but match up the auto-find opponent to your actual skill level.
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It's competition so I wouldn't want the community split. I'd rather them what Greeny is suggesting and working with iccup which is already established and has a lot of resources. Although I admit, chances are slim.
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ELO? Great! Automatchmaking? Great!
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Can't get past the mySQL database error...
edit: copy and paste the link and it should work. not sure why it's blocking direct links from tl.net.
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On December 24 2009 00:13 muse5187 wrote:
not sure why it's blocking direct links from tl.net.
D- level programmer
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Wow, pretty insane. It seems that you can even search for specific opponents and maps! I imagin this to be great if you want to practice a specific BO on a specific map vs a specific race.
Now lets just hope that ICCUP does not refuse to work together with them.
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On December 23 2009 23:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators lol i don't think it's that bad...
BURN HIM
seriously i stopped playing when i started again because of this
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Can someone explain ELO ranking?
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and can someone explain me if this launcher is ready? i dont know russian so i checked the page and found only the old advloader w/o features like /find or w/e
im quite ashamed of myself D:
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If this is as good as everyone says it is then wow
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On December 24 2009 00:54 Cu(oCo) wrote:
and can someone explain me if this launcher is ready? i dont know russian so i checked the page and found only the old advloader w/o features like /find or w/e
im quite ashamed of myself D:
its ready, just download and install to sc directory, the server will be added to list of servers at the bottom i think
heres how the commands work
/find z desti
Either finds a readymade game that a z has hosted on desti OR creates a game on desti which z's can join
/find z desti join
specifically designates that you're searching for a readymade game
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On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators
This is indeed a big problem. Ruins it all for the ppl at lower ranks
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On December 24 2009 01:10 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 00:54 Cu(oCo) wrote:
and can someone explain me if this launcher is ready? i dont know russian so i checked the page and found only the old advloader w/o features like /find or w/e
im quite ashamed of myself D: its ready, just download and install to sc directory, the server will be added to list of servers at the bottom i think heres how the commands work /find z desti Either finds a readymade game that a z has hosted on desti OR creates a game on desti which z's can join /find z desti join specifically designates that you're searching for a readymade game
i don't see the server... am I just downloading the advloader??
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On December 24 2009 02:23 MAE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 01:10 TheAntZ wrote:On December 24 2009 00:54 Cu(oCo) wrote:
and can someone explain me if this launcher is ready? i dont know russian so i checked the page and found only the old advloader w/o features like /find or w/e
im quite ashamed of myself D: its ready, just download and install to sc directory, the server will be added to list of servers at the bottom i think heres how the commands work /find z desti Either finds a readymade game that a z has hosted on desti OR creates a game on desti which z's can join /find z desti join specifically designates that you're searching for a readymade game i don't see the server... am I just downloading the advloader??
you might be...
try copy pasting this link into your browser
http://sc2tv.ru/uploads/sc2tvLauncherSetup.exe
the launcher icon is a hydralisk, if you have that it should be the right one
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btw I really encourage everyone to try this since theres very few players there now, and if the community grows the games will be more frequent
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Russian Federation1613 Posts
On December 24 2009 00:21 Toolshed wrote:
Wow, pretty insane. It seems that you can even search for specific opponents and maps! I imagin this to be great if you want to practice a specific BO on a specific map vs a specific race.
Now lets just hope that ICCUP does not refuse to work together with them.
Yes u can type /find desti z and u will be auto-play with Z on Desti
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or you could host a game called "Desti Z come"
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On December 24 2009 02:53 Jenia6109 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 00:21 Toolshed wrote:
Wow, pretty insane. It seems that you can even search for specific opponents and maps! I imagin this to be great if you want to practice a specific BO on a specific map vs a specific race.
Now lets just hope that ICCUP does not refuse to work together with them. Yes u can type /find desti z and u will be auto-play with Z on Desti
How do i search for ANY game to join, not create?
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Wonder if it stores matchup-specific ELO... my matchups are at rather different levels.
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How about lag issues? - at the moment i am on a crap satelite connection so i cant play anyone out of eorope pretty much.
I am forced to join games with 1 green latency bar.
Will this launcher be adressing this somehow?
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this is a really good system...
played first game, i might be using this. i mean its not as big as iccup but you get to play with people quicker i think.
worth giving it a shot
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Russian Federation6 Posts
Hi all.
On December 23 2009 20:02 Captain Mayhem wrote:
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This is beta-test of the server, so you can expect bags and errors in this thread.
All thanks.
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fucking smurfs, thanks for this.
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Does it have any form of anti map hack?
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I managed to log on and play a game, the LAN on this actually works for me as opposed to iccup where it discs me for using it, this looks pretty decent :O
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How do you make ladder games?
I played melee and one on one but neither counted as ladder, and I won both of them too  .
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On December 24 2009 05:49 Megalisk wrote:How do you make ladder games? I played melee and one on one but neither counted as ladder, and I won both of them too .
how did you join the games?
and at above poster, no its not matchup specific
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Russian Federation6 Posts
Does it have any form of anti map hack?
Yes, antihack is used in sc2tv launcher.
How do you make ladder games?
Following conditions should be met simultaneously:
1)The Starcraft should be runed with the sc2tv launcher
2)The Map from sc2tv pack (they are installed by the automatic together with sc2tv launcher)
2)Type of game 1 on 1
If all is made correctly in the game beginning there is a msg
Game is ladder GL, HF
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Russian Federation41 Posts
rentgen, welcome to tl.net! Actually, he's one of the guys that made this awesome launcher. Big thx for that!
As for iccup integration, that might be a problem, as there was some drama between sc2tv.ru and iccup, after which sc2tv was banned from iccup. However, a lot of time passed, so maybe iccup and sc2tv could work together once more.
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On December 24 2009 06:16 rentgen wrote:Yes, antihack is used in sc2tv launcher. Following conditions should be met simultaneously:1)The Starcraft should be runed with the sc2tv launcher 2)The Map from sc2tv pack (they are installed by the automatic together with sc2tv launcher) 2)Type of game 1 on 1 If all is made correctly in the game beginning there is a msg Game is ladder GL, HF
Oh ok, I was using Iccup maps. 
On December 24 2009 06:09 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 05:49 Megalisk wrote:How do you make ladder games? I played melee and one on one but neither counted as ladder, and I won both of them too . how did you join the games? and at above poster, no its not matchup specific
I just made them, I didn't see any games in tthe game-list.
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On December 24 2009 06:21 zer0access wrote:rentgen, welcome to tl.net! Actually, he's one of the guys that made this awesome launcher. Big thx for that! As for iccup integration, that might be a problem, as there was some drama between sc2tv.ru and iccup, after which sc2tv was banned from iccup. However, a lot of time passed, so maybe iccup and sc2tv could work together once more.
tell us more please!
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Russian Federation6 Posts
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what if i cannot host there is any command to that?
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Russian Federation6 Posts
in that case you should use "/find join"
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Russian Federation6 Posts
I just made them, I didn't see any games in tthe game-list.
Because all games, who was created with command find are private.
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Nice feature, but as mentioned before I dont like the idea of splitting an already small community.
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In Soviet Russia, StarCraft play you!
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Russian Federation6 Posts
Nice feature, but as mentioned before I dont like the idea of splitting an already small community.
Ourselves against splitting community. But we did not have a choice. When ICCUP banned us, we had to search for a new platform for streaming and tournaments on StarCraft. Our server became it.
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just played my 1st game i iliked it and it was pretty fast to get a game though a bit laggy
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If this program finds games with good ping and matches opponents skill pretty well there is no reason the community should split. Everybody should switch over. Nice job.
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On December 23 2009 23:54 MorroW[MB] wrote:
its better if they just teamwork with iccup to make iccup better. dont split up the community t.t
Hasn't the russian community basically always kept to themselves? Or was that with Elasto Mania? I genuinely don't remember :-P
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On December 24 2009 08:17 Bosu wrote:
If this program finds games with good ping and matches opponents skill pretty well there is no reason the community should split. Everybody should switch over. Nice job.
Considering the ammount of work iCCup has done for the community, I don't think people will. A friendly merge seems a lot more appropriate. iCCup might want to look into incorporating some of those services into their system.
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cant seem to get the launcher to find starcraft. i can open the launcher but it says i need to reinstall to change the installpath for starcraft and ive done this like... nine times
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For anyone that is interested, here is a synopsis of the events that lead up to the banning of SC2TV from ICCUP:
SC2TV were casting one of their events.
Enter Unk.
Unk starts demanding obs slot - something that has been denied to everyone, including close friends and possible sponsors, due to lag - and is denied. Unk runs to Yellow-Ant saying that SC2TV is violating the TOS of ICCUP.
Yellow-Ant contacts imba.Adolf[ra], one of the progenitors of the SC2TV project, and makes an ultimatum: you put a lot of ICCUP-ads in your streams and on your homepage and we let you stay.
imba.Adolf[ra] replies that the usual banner that is seen in the chat channels are displayed constantly as well as ICCUP being mentioned constantly by the commentators and players being drawn to ICCUP by various "forfun"-events that SC2TV hosts.
None of this pleases the ICCUP government and after some exchange, SC2TV is expunged from the ICCUP server.
SC2TV events have henceforth been hosted on the Podolsk server, whose administration was kind enough to provide SC2TV a dedicated channel and admin rights.
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On December 24 2009 08:50 meathook wrote:For anyone that is interested, here is a synopsis of the events that lead up to the banning of SC2TV from ICCUP: SC2TV were casting one of their events. Enter Unk. Unk starts demanding obs slot - something that has been denied to everyone, including close friends and possible sponsors, due to lag - and is denied. Unk runs to Yellow-Ant saying that SC2TV is violating the TOS of ICCUP. Yellow-Ant contacts imba.Adolf[ra], one of the progenitors of the SC2TV project, and makes an ultimatum: you put a lot of ICCUP-ads in your streams and on your homepage and we let you stay. imba.Adolf[ra] replies that the usual banner that is seen in the chat channels are displayed constantly as well as ICCUP being mentioned constantly by the commentators and players being drawn to ICCUP by various "forfun"-events that SC2TV hosts. None of this pleases the ICCUP government and after some exchange, SC2TV is expunged from the ICCUP server. SC2TV events have henceforth been hosted on the Podolsk server, whose administration was kind enough to provide SC2TV a dedicated channel and admin rights.
:-O
Wow, I didn't know that. Seriously, if iCCup did that and will not reconsider, I have no problem playing on another server.
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so iccup went on power trip it seems  (
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it doesnt recognize stracraft folder...
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On December 24 2009 11:46 Weaponx3 wrote:so iccup went on power trip it seems (
shhh you will be next
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this would actually make me consider coming back to play more BW.. the iccup system of joining a game and some newb kicks you because you are a certain race, or sees your stats, is really annoying =/
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On December 24 2009 12:29 Skyze wrote:
this would actually make me consider coming back to play more BW.. the iccup system of joining a game and some newb kicks you because you are a certain race, or sees your stats, is really annoying =/
Yeah but there aren't many people on it, so its kinda hard to find games, and the fact that iccup has their website with stats and everything in English means they probably won't be losing their users. If this thing had something like the iccup site, and a larger user base I would switch permanently.
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Russian Federation8 Posts
On December 24 2009 12:39 Megalisk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 12:29 Skyze wrote:
this would actually make me consider coming back to play more BW.. the iccup system of joining a game and some newb kicks you because you are a certain race, or sees your stats, is really annoying =/ Yeah but there aren't many people on it, so its kinda hard to find games, and the fact that iccup has their website with stats and everything in English means they probably won't be losing their users. If this thing had something like the iccup site, and a larger user base I would switch permanently.
Of course. It's just a first step. And as it was said, we made this server/launcher basically for holding our streams. But we are going to upgrade our portal to be able of keeping all the statistics, and to have a strong bound with sc-server. For example you will have an opportunity to call down any sc2tv.ru user in the site panel and your game replays would be automatically saved on the site. If you wish, they could be open for everyone. And, it's more important for English speaking community, that we are working on English version of the site too. But all of that is in the distant future. Sorry)
Beta testing of the server/launcher ends in a week. We hope to fix all bags until the New Year. And approximately after the 1st of January we'll start the 1-st season. So you should expect more people, as we will post adds on different sites and so on.
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On December 24 2009 08:50 meathook wrote:For anyone that is interested, here is a synopsis of the events that lead up to the banning of SC2TV from ICCUP: SC2TV were casting one of their events. Enter Unk. Unk starts demanding obs slot - something that has been denied to everyone, including close friends and possible sponsors, due to lag - and is denied. Unk runs to Yellow-Ant saying that SC2TV is violating the TOS of ICCUP. Yellow-Ant contacts imba.Adolf[ra], one of the progenitors of the SC2TV project, and makes an ultimatum: you put a lot of ICCUP-ads in your streams and on your homepage and we let you stay. imba.Adolf[ra] replies that the usual banner that is seen in the chat channels are displayed constantly as well as ICCUP being mentioned constantly by the commentators and players being drawn to ICCUP by various "forfun"-events that SC2TV hosts. None of this pleases the ICCUP government and after some exchange, SC2TV is expunged from the ICCUP server. SC2TV events have henceforth been hosted on the Podolsk server, whose administration was kind enough to provide SC2TV a dedicated channel and admin rights.
Didn't they try to do this to TSL1 as well? I love iCCup and all the work volunteers put into it, but sometimes they're such incredible assholes. SC2TV and TSL are huge volunteer projects too, there's no reason iCCup admins should get special privileges that threaten the success of these projects. IMO that's a sign someone is doing it for the wrong reasons. I guess it's been awhile since this happened, but I really hope they've matured a bit at HQ.
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this seems really awesome! It would be sick if iccup could integrate something like this
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On December 24 2009 12:58 Commander_Duck wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2009 12:39 Megalisk wrote:On December 24 2009 12:29 Skyze wrote:
this would actually make me consider coming back to play more BW.. the iccup system of joining a game and some newb kicks you because you are a certain race, or sees your stats, is really annoying =/ Yeah but there aren't many people on it, so its kinda hard to find games, and the fact that iccup has their website with stats and everything in English means they probably won't be losing their users. If this thing had something like the iccup site, and a larger user base I would switch permanently. Of course. It's just a first step. And as it was said, we made this server/launcher basically for holding our streams. But we are going to upgrade our portal to be able of keeping all the statistics, and to have a strong bound with sc-server. For example you will have an opportunity to call down any sc2tv.ru user in the site panel and your game replays would be automatically saved on the site. If you wish, they could be open for everyone. And, it's more important for English speaking community, that we are working on English version of the site too. But all of that is in the distant future. Sorry) Beta testing of the server/launcher ends in a week. We hope to fix all bags until the New Year. And approximately after the 1st of January we'll start the 1-st season. So you should expect more people, as we will post adds on different sites and so on.
Hell yeah I'll most likely be going to this..less douchebags..hopefully they stay on iccup.
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Hyrule19210 Posts
I mean...the ICCup TOS does say refuse to hold tourneys / other events, with no explanation
stop an announced or started tourney / event, if the obligatory conditions have been broken
exclude any user from the participants list, with no explanation
be present at the tourney / event channel
be an observer in games of any stage
make its own video/radio translations
make its own reviews, articles, announce results
request replays from the tourney / event
request any other information It's pretty obscenely powerful...but isn't that what a TOS is for? Yello doesn't eject entire groups of people over something as small as not having banners all over the place, so there must have been something more that nobody is talking about.
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On December 24 2009 15:03 tofucake wrote:I mean...the ICCup TOS does say Show nested quote + refuse to hold tourneys / other events, with no explanation
stop an announced or started tourney / event, if the obligatory conditions have been broken
exclude any user from the participants list, with no explanation
be present at the tourney / event channel
be an observer in games of any stage
make its own video/radio translations
make its own reviews, articles, announce results
request replays from the tourney / event
request any other information It's pretty obscenely powerful...but isn't that what a TOS is for? Yello doesn't eject entire groups of people over something as small as not having banners all over the place, so there must have been something more that nobody is talking about.
They banned a city for having 2 hackers...I wouldn't be surprised if it really was that simple.
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too bad this didnt come out before TSL2 ladder..... with a mandatory launcher like this, the only criteria would have been skill at bw, and not how good you are at abusing a ladder system.
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I like how all the D people think there are all these smurfs on iccup. when really theyre just bad and dont have an excuse for why they lose to trash players.
what do you expect ppl laddering up to B/A to do? skip the D ranks?
also this launcher is pretty nice, should talk to iccup bout a merger of sorts.
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if iccup + this launcher, it would be great for the community. purely elo ranking
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i hope down the line after everything is settled blizzard implements battle net 2.0 to sc1
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Russian Federation4 Posts
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sound interesting =)
I would like to try this server
edit. lol
• 1000-1199 - white belt
• 1200-1399 - yellow belt
• 1400-1599 - orange belt
• 1600-1799 - green belt
• 1800-1999 - blue belt
• 2000-2199 - red belt
• 2200-2399 - brown belt
• 2400-2499 - black belt
• 2500++ - only a player who earns 2500 points or more will find out the color of the last belt
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On December 24 2009 01:40 orangeshines wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators This is indeed a big problem. Ruins it all for the ppl at lower ranks
I don't play iCCup at ALL cause of this, i don't like getting owned lol.
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intresting idea but im not going to lie i wouldnt want to brag and say "yo man im a red belt sup?" that just doesnt even sound cool just nerdy:D
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Now that the beta phase is over does that mean the server is down atm ? Or i cant connect for some other reason.
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Downloaded it and its really fun. I'll probably still play iccup as well but this launcher is quite good
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The auto-game finding feature is amazing, but for some reason I the server wouldn't recognize me as using the SC2TV launcher after each game. That meant a log-out -> back in every time.
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Russian Federation8 Posts
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i lol'd thought it said russian communists
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I have so much trouble finding games.. I can't host myself
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downloaded... except theres only like 15 people on... lol
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On December 23 2009 23:53 DanceCommander wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2009 23:44 Amber[LighT] wrote:On December 23 2009 20:42 lazz wrote:On December 23 2009 20:35 Boblion wrote:
They should put auto match in the iccup launcher.
Would make things harder for some people. that'd be awesome. iccup is plagued with smurfs and stat resetting masturbators lol i don't think it's that bad... You aren't playing at D+/C- level are you
Then he's proof cause the complains at that what B-/B people make second accounts? Highly doubt hes a C player and he's not in D+/C-. Lower ranks like to complain a lot.
This does seem like a very easy way for people to matchup dodge which defeats purpose to a ladder I believe.
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