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Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
August 21 2009 02:06 GMT
#441
On August 21 2009 10:31 MuffinDude wrote:
Honestly, mbc would be perfect for jaedong, but because jaedong needs to be relieved every once in a while, mbc would not work because they don't have any other good ace


You obviously haven't heard of Light somehow. He's MBC's current ace, and probably a top ten Terran. (Except in Starleagues, kind of like Sea actually.)
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Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7801 Posts
August 21 2009 02:07 GMT
#442
I feel like JD will stay at OZ imo. Although maybe that's because I can't really see him moving.

Someone made a good point about him maybe mot being worth the cost to KT. Lux and Flash are probably very expensive + they already have a decent Z lineup. On the othet hand though, I really feel like JD would only benifit Hoejja/Firefist/Lux/815
29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
August 21 2009 02:10 GMT
#443
actually, as long as jaedong doesnt go to khan, im happy
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 21 2009 02:48 GMT
#444
Im jumping on the "jaedong to hite" bandwagon. GGplay, I will always remember when you totally destroyed Flash that one time on plasma.
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mrlie3
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada350 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 03:16:47
August 21 2009 03:03 GMT
#445
My two bits on whos gonna take the FAs.

Shine, gogo: Samsung, Woongjin, Hite, and STX are probably interested in these Terrans, since they only have 1 or no dominant Terran player. I'm guessing gogo will go to STX or Woongjin and Shine going to Hite.

Midas: Woongjin or Estro? Anyone looking for a Terran coach might be interested. Truthfully, Midas cannot compete with Shine and gogo. He might even go back to SKT or retire or AirForced.

Jaedong: SKT, KT, Samsung, MBC, and Woongjin need to grab this guy. However, considering Jaedong's hefty price tag or 300 million or more Won due to FA regulation, I think only SKT/KT/Samsung have what it takes to pay the price. My guess is Samsung, for the sake of balancing issue.

Hyun: He's like a Zerg version of Midas... Pretty sure he's gonna go back to MBC.
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TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 03:14:30
August 21 2009 03:09 GMT
#446
On August 20 2009 22:30 G3nXsiS wrote:
Look, JaeDong has been so successful in Oz that I don't see any reason for him to switch teams. If anything he would go into a slump kinda like Bisu for a while when he moved to SKT1. And theres no telling if he can comeback like Bisu. Yes, hes the only good player on Oz but I believe that motivates him to practice more. Hes probably alot more comfortable in Oz too considering hes been there for so long. Apart from that hes considered a superstar because hes the only good player on Oz. I feel that JaeDong's parents are just being stupid and ungrateful. JaeDong moving to another team is as dumb as sAviOr moving out of CJ. It just doesn't suit them. Imagine seeing JaeDong in an MBCHero uniform.(which is probably the team that is most likely to sign him considering their abysmal performance after Bisu and July left and considering they are the second richest and accomplished team in the league)

As for the rest of the teams. I feel STX is paying a good price for all their players. Some people may think that Hwasin and Kal are overpaid but if you look at their results in the proleague they are a worthy investment especially Kal who has really good at PvT. Hwasin is a good zerg sniper and they have July to destroy protoss. If all else fails they have Calm. Hwasin is also very popular amongst fangirls so maybe his pay is for the marketing stuff too.

Im suprised that NaDa is still getting paid so much. I feel that Mind should be earning some of his money considering that Mind is the ace of WeMade right now.

MBC can't afford a player like jaedong..get real Notice how MBC doesnt have a single star player? Its because they have no money for it. No possible way they could even begin to think about paying jaedong double his current salary. If jaedong goes to another team, it will be a team with a large corporate backing. However I think Oz will be intelligent enough to keep him.

Nada is paid a lot because hes extremely popular. Much like Nal_ra, Reach and Yellow when they were on KTF.
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Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 21 2009 03:12 GMT
#447
So really only one noteable thing happened?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 21 2009 03:12 GMT
#448
On August 21 2009 11:06 Musoeun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2009 10:31 MuffinDude wrote:
Honestly, mbc would be perfect for jaedong, but because jaedong needs to be relieved every once in a while, mbc would not work because they don't have any other good ace


You obviously haven't heard of Light somehow. He's MBC's current ace, and probably a top ten Terran. (Except in Starleagues, kind of like Sea actually.)


I'm sorry. I actually like Light a lot. But he's one of the worst "aces" around. Jaedong's not going to have any less of a load playing for MBC as he did for Oz.

If Jaedong wants to take it easy, he'll join STX/CJ/Khan/T1/Hite/KT. Of those teams, STX and CJ don't really need more zergs. Hite and Khan never spends money. So I'm imagining he'll end up either Oz, KT, or SKT1.
Meh
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
August 21 2009 03:23 GMT
#449
Wow, GGPlay retires! Big news...carpal tunnel explains his recent results. Good luck in the military!
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Perguvious
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1783 Posts
August 21 2009 03:24 GMT
#450
wow, free AND ggplay ):

Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
August 21 2009 03:26 GMT
#451
Damn , im drooling over the possibility of Jaedong joining KT.
Flash, Jaedong on a team... holy crap.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
August 21 2009 03:29 GMT
#452
WTF GGPLAY??? :T__T nooooooo

you're an OSL champion too.. >__ <
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
August 21 2009 03:31 GMT
#453
On August 21 2009 12:03 mrlie3 wrote:
Midas: Woongjin or Estro? Anyone looking for a Terran coach might be interested. Truthfully, Midas cannot compete with Shine and gogo. He might even go back to SKT or retire or AirForced.

Hyun: He's like a Zerg version of Midas... Pretty sure he's gonna go back to MBC.

You best respect ...

Midas is 22 (same age of Iris) and could easily have a similar revival if he was put into the right situation imo. Only two SL seasons ago he was in the OSL Ro8 and playing well in PL to boot. If he just returns to even a shadow of his former brilliance he can easily be much better than go.go/Shine. Easy low riskhigh reward move for a team (assuming he doesn't sign for > 50 mil. Won). I'd rank the Terran FA's as 1. (T)go.go, 2. (T)Midas, 3. (T)Shine, with Midas being the only one of those three that has displayed the capability of playing truly exceptional SC. Honestly, what has Shine ever done except put up mediocre results in the MSL? He's an afterthought compared to go.go/Midas. /End incoherent angry Midas fanboy rant.

THERE'S STILL HOPE FOR SANG WOOK!
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Delerium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States324 Posts
August 21 2009 03:33 GMT
#454
re: "JD can't move to SKT1 because that would ruin proleague/e-sports!" - it's become pretty obvious that SKT1 only care about themselves/winning, and I don't trust them to make decisions purely for the good of e-sports. To all the T1 fans who thought "Week of Jaedong" was egomaniacal.... Oov's "If Oz wins [over T1] it will be bad for e-sports" was a lot worse.

as for "Oz icons will start disappearing!" - speak for yourself. Even if I am a Jaedong fan, I am also an Oz fan. Oz has lots of other players I like to watch, like Backho, Lomo, and Killer. I'll root for Jaedong wherever he goes, but I will also root for Oz. To me, Oz is the team that Boxer left for dead.

All this BS about how Jaedong is underpaid... I've said it before, we don't all root for teams sponsored by corporations with pockets deep enough to poach all of their players (I'm looking at you, KT and SKT1). Jaedong is 19... 19! and he's making in excess of $110,000 USD/yr. It may not be as much as other star pro-gamers, but still. That's ridiculous. How many people on TeamLiquid make that much? I've only ever made a fraction of that, and I'm a college graduate.

Think about it for a second... there's not very much of a business model here. All the money paid by the companies to fund the teams are supposed to be returned purely in the value of brand promotion. They are shelling out money to entertain us. How many of you have ever bought a ticket to an e-sport event? In other words, not all the companies can equally afford to fund this neo-sports television.

Jaedong leaving Oz would subject him to a lot of uncomfortable changes. He'd leave behind his practice partners and his proximity-based relationships with his Oz teammates would suffer. He might not fit in well at a new team, and he might not get the same kind of attention. It's not worth the risk. It could spell the end of his career. Not that he's exactly hurting for money after making so much all this time... but he is clearly a very driven person, and I know he doesn't want it to end in such a lousy way. I pretty much hope no teams bid on him, but I suspect that will not happen.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 03:52:32
August 21 2009 03:47 GMT
#455
On August 21 2009 12:03 mrlie3 wrote:

Jaedong: SKT, KT, Samsung, MBC, and Woongjin need to grab this guy. However, considering Jaedong's hefty price tag or 300 million or more Won due to FA regulation, I think only SKT/KT/Samsung have what it takes to pay the price. My guess is Samsung, for the sake of balancing issue.




Wemade will show whos price is right.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 21 2009 03:54 GMT
#456
I'd love to see Jaedong join KT. With jaedong on KT with flash, I think there would be an awesome rivalry between them and SKT.

Bisu, Fantasy, Canata, Best VS Jaedong, Flash, ForGG, Luxury

I'd pay to see that ;P.
Musoeun
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States4324 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-21 03:57:04
August 21 2009 03:55 GMT
#457
On August 21 2009 12:12 baubo wrote:
I'm sorry. I actually like Light a lot. But he's one of the worst "aces" around. Jaedong's not going to have any less of a load playing for MBC as he did for Oz.


Well, he's not Flash or fantasy (although his TvZ is arguably currently better than either (no, I don't believe in fantasy's TvZ)). Right now I'd put him with Iris, Mind, and sKyHigh (although skyhigh may belong with Flash and fantasy, but I don't buy that yet) as "A+" Terrans.

There's no question he'd becomes JD's backup if JD went to MBC, rather than a partner like on KT/Samsung/SK. But as backups go, Light (and Sea, maybe Saint, Pusan if he remembers how to play again) make much better backup than Lomo/HiyA/BackHo/whoever.

I don't think I'm delusional, but vs most teams Light makes a nice ace player. Sure, if you had to pick between Jaedong and Light against SK or KT (maybe Samsung), send JD, because you know you're going to get Bisu/fantasy/Flash/(luxury if he stops sucking)/(Jangbi/Stork/FBH). But against other teams, I'd be perfectly happy sending out Light (well, maybe not against eSTRO, UpMagic's TvT is good).
Don't Shoot the Penguins. | Dance, 성은, dance! | Killer FanKlub | Action sucks. | Storm Terran hwaiting.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66161 Posts
August 21 2009 03:58 GMT
#458
Nooo GGPlay!
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
August 21 2009 04:02 GMT
#459
Midas. ):
Tyxiquale
Profile Joined September 2008
Australia424 Posts
August 21 2009 04:02 GMT
#460
although I would love for Jaedong to join KT, I don't see how they can fork out the money to pay for him AND his salary, while also paying for flash, lux and forgg.

I think what KT might do is to buy JD in exchange for lux + a large amount of money.
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