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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
August 18 2009 17:45 GMT
#21
On August 19 2009 02:38 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:35 ilovelosses wrote:
On August 19 2009 02:21 BanZu wrote:
Kinda happens when something flies over a goliath, as the missile shoots and just keep flying in circles and it doesn't attack anymore.

And the most common occurrence in melee would probably be observer over a turret. Not so much in professional games or in iccup since they're both banned glitches that can get you DQed but I've done it before on bnet haha.

I'm guessing it occurs because it's kinda like a vulture planting mines. The vulture can't plant mines unless it moves a tiny distance, as in you can't plant a mine by clicking on the vulture. A turret isn't able to shoot directly upwards so it can't shoot anything directly above it. Maybe it's similar in some way with bunkers and ghosts.


obs over turret isn't banned iirc

It's banned in pro games and in most tournaments.


It's really easy to avoid though, you just press "S" on the turret in question, a bit like when Dragoons freeze.

I thought that it was allowed now on iCCup..
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 17:47 GMT
#22
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...
Peace~
Shadowfury333
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada314 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 17:48:32
August 18 2009 17:47 GMT
#23
From iCCup rules:
Bugs/tricks in game:

Allowed to use:
...
— Observer Over turret


Yes, it is allowed on iCCup.
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 17:49 GMT
#24
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...

Peace~
NightmareHack
Profile Joined August 2009
Germany3 Posts
August 18 2009 17:49 GMT
#25
If u got Problems with that glitch just move out ur marines or ur other units u have in cargo and attack that building or air unit then the problem must be gone ^^

If u have other Problems = Dont think complicatedly, just chill and look for a easy and comfortable key :D
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fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 17:53 GMT
#26
On August 19 2009 02:49 NightmareHack wrote:
If u got Problems with that glitch just move out ur marines or ur other units u have in cargo and attack that building or air unit then the problem must be gone ^^

If u have other Problems = Dont think complicatedly, just chill and look for a easy and comfortable key :D

o_o;
Peace~
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15366 Posts
August 18 2009 17:54 GMT
#27
On August 19 2009 02:49 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...


It's not banned from pro games either. I think WCG still bans it. Although even they might not enforce it. Wasn't there some controvercy in last year's WCG where one of the pros used obs over turret because it didn't occur to them that it could be banned?
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jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
August 18 2009 17:57 GMT
#28
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...


No, it's not "a tournament", but it does host many tournaments.
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 17:58 GMT
#29
On August 19 2009 02:54 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:49 fanatacist wrote:
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...


It's not banned from pro games either. I think WCG still bans it. Although even they might not enforce it. Wasn't there some controvercy in last year's WCG where one of the pros used obs over turret because it didn't occur to them that it could be banned?

Really? I always see "no obs over turret" in foreigner tournaments, and I don't remember the last time anyone has used it in a progame so I just assumed that it was illegal.
Peace~
natturner
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
342 Posts
August 18 2009 17:58 GMT
#30
i believe turret freezing was banned but then they unbanned it since u can spam Stop to unfreeze the turret. that's what i heard anyway. never heard of bunker freezing. show me and i'll believe u
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Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 18:07:40
August 18 2009 17:59 GMT
#31
http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=19083&name=IanIanIan vs Epsilon Squadron.rep

http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=19084&name=IanIanIan vs Epsilon Squadron.rep

http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=19085&name=1 players - T.rep

There, try those out. Don't speed the replays up, it glitches

The first shows valkyrie's doing a double bunk freeze. And later on the weird glitch with probes. It's longer.

Second shows bunk freezes on a bunk with rines (hero i think) and hero ghosts. Both down with corsairs.

Third is just a weird one that I can't replicate that often. I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with where you drop and you have to keep workers in the dship, but idk
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
August 18 2009 18:00 GMT
#32
On August 19 2009 02:58 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:54 zatic wrote:
On August 19 2009 02:49 fanatacist wrote:
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...


It's not banned from pro games either. I think WCG still bans it. Although even they might not enforce it. Wasn't there some controvercy in last year's WCG where one of the pros used obs over turret because it didn't occur to them that it could be banned?

Really? I always see "no obs over turret" in foreigner tournaments, and I don't remember the last time anyone has used it in a progame so I just assumed that it was illegal.


pwned

i think its kinda pointless to use anyways since its easy to avoid.
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Phelix
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1931 Posts
August 18 2009 18:11 GMT
#33
Northern Ireland's bunker is hero Marines.

Did you guys have an explanation for the ghost and CC bug when attacking Belarus with Ukraine? That bug is a weird one too, and I don't think vision is the reason, simply because normal ghosts have longer range than hero ghosts.
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Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-18 18:16:17
August 18 2009 18:15 GMT
#34
Something to do with worker units is what we decided. We worked on this for a couple days weeks ago but coudn't figure it out. Which is why I brought it here. And the ghosts in that bunk are normal not hero.

And idk if they are hero. Gols and goons can snipe it. Meanwhile tanks have trouble sniping most irish bunks. Sooo I don't think they are hero
dhe95
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1213 Posts
August 18 2009 18:24 GMT
#35
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...

REALLY? tell that to the many people noobbashing/cheesing just so they can have an easy win!

And won't terrans usually build a turret next to their bunker (stop a lurker break, defend muta harass, tvt contains)
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 18:27 GMT
#36
On August 19 2009 03:24 dhe95 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...

REALLY? tell that to the many people noobbashing/cheesing just so they can have an easy win!

And won't terrans usually build a turret next to their bunker (stop a lurker break, defend muta harass, tvt contains)

It's a ladder not a tournament.
Peace~
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
August 18 2009 18:27 GMT
#37
On August 19 2009 03:24 dhe95 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...

REALLY? tell that to the many people noobbashing/cheesing just so they can have an easy win!

And won't terrans usually build a turret next to their bunker (stop a lurker break, defend muta harass, tvt contains)


I could actually freeze both of those simultaneously if you wanted
fanatacist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
10319 Posts
August 18 2009 18:29 GMT
#38
When can we see some screencaps/vods? I am not going to look through those replays at fastest speed -_-;
Peace~
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
August 18 2009 18:30 GMT
#39
On August 19 2009 02:54 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2009 02:49 fanatacist wrote:
On August 19 2009 02:47 fanatacist wrote:
I don't think ICCup is a tournament...


It's not banned from pro games either. I think WCG still bans it. Although even they might not enforce it. Wasn't there some controvercy in last year's WCG where one of the pros used obs over turret because it didn't occur to them that it could be banned?

I believe it was stork, who did it without realizing that it was banned. I think they warned him, or something along those lines, but he wasn't punished. Can't remember for my life who it was against though.
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Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
August 18 2009 18:35 GMT
#40
On August 19 2009 03:29 fanatacist wrote:
When can we see some screencaps/vods? I am not going to look through those replays at fastest speed -_-;


Two of the replays are 4 minutes long. The one with the probe glitch is 14.

You really can't spare 4 minutes..?
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