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vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 14 2009 08:47 GMT
#1
Okay so we all know that good starcraft palyers seems to equal good poker players.. taking this to heart I decided to learn how to play Texas Hold 'Em.

I read two books over the course of 1 week.

The Theory of Poker - Sklansky
Hold 'Em Poker - Sklansky & Malmuth

I reread the parts i didn't fully grasp and even started quizzing myself on what to do in certain situations.. feeling pretty confident i proceeded to make an account on Pokerstars.. and even decided to dabble in the play money for about an hour just to make sure i wasnt full of myself.

my $1000 in play chips in less than an hour turned in $18000+ GREAT I was ready to hit the tables.. or so i thought.

LOONG story short.. i lost $100 in less than 20 minutes

FML

and Fuck Poker

*
Breaking Bad
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43676 Posts
August 14 2009 08:48 GMT
#2
Lol. What the fuck kind of bankroll management were you playing? A new player should be losing $2 or so max when he goes allin. You tried to jump directly from play money to low limit?
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vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 14 2009 08:52 GMT
#3
On August 14 2009 17:48 Kwark wrote:
Lol. What the fuck kind of bankroll management were you playing? A new player should be losing $2 or so max when he goes allin. You tried to jump directly from play money to low limit?


I'd rather not say what went down haha.. for fear of some idol ex-SC player turne dpokerstar see this and laughs his ass off. GiYom or Rekrul mainly.
Breaking Bad
stanley_
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States816 Posts
August 14 2009 08:53 GMT
#4
learn from this

http://p.fulltiltpoker.com/chris-ferguson-challenge
hoorah
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 14 2009 08:53 GMT
#5
shoulda done your research
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43676 Posts
August 14 2009 08:55 GMT
#6
I'd guess a significant portion of this site has at some point played online poker.
Btw, just so you know, you pretty much did the equivalent of reading the Blizzard Starcraft tips on their website (such as countering firebats with scouts) and then jumping onto icc. And playing betgames. For $100.
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vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 14 2009 08:56 GMT
#7
On August 14 2009 17:55 Kwark wrote:
Btw, just so you know, you pretty much did the equivalent of reading the Blizzard Starcraft tips on their website (such as countering firebats with scouts) and then jumping onto icc. And playing betgames. For $100.



lol.. the stove?

point taken
Breaking Bad
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 09:00:52
August 14 2009 09:00 GMT
#8
LOLOLOLOL

you didn't read anything on bankroll management?!!? the single most important aspect of the game hahahahaha.

what limit were you playing?

don't tell me you went short stacked into a game all-ined and lost?

edit: on second thought do tell me please ^ ^
ShaperofDreams
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2492 Posts
August 14 2009 09:02 GMT
#9
What limits did you start at to lose money so fast?

Took me forever to lose my free 2$ at pokerstars.

and thats only because of the rage tilt of having a 2$ bankroll lol. (in case your wondering i turned it to 10$ and then lost like 4 times AA v. KK or KK v. AA.

How do you let go of kings?
Bitches don't know about my overlord. FUCK OFF ALDARIS I HAVE ENOUGH PYLONS. My Balls are as smooth as Eggs.
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 14 2009 09:03 GMT
#10
On August 14 2009 18:00 Etherone wrote:
you didn't read anything on bankroll management?!!? the single most important aspect of the game hahahahaha.


Oddly enough since i have both books right here.. neither book mentions Anything about bankroll management.. ):


Breaking Bad
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 09:13:56
August 14 2009 09:12 GMT
#11
lol you probably played with like 1 buyin at the 1/2$ table am i right, gotta start from the micro tables bro
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Mah Buckit!
Profile Joined April 2009
Finland474 Posts
August 14 2009 09:12 GMT
#12
On August 14 2009 17:55 Kwark wrote:
I'd guess a significant portion of this site has at some point played online poker.
Btw, just so you know, you pretty much did the equivalent of reading the Blizzard Starcraft tips on their website (such as countering firebats with scouts) and then jumping onto icc. And playing betgames. For $100.


I think scouts are pretty good against firebats....

Poker sucks atleast the low-players oh god, I got tired of losing to shitty plays.....
Also poker takes a lot of time IMO.
Starcraft? Epic Grimness.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 09:15:59
August 14 2009 09:14 GMT
#13
On August 14 2009 18:12 Mah Buckit! wrote:

Poker sucks atleast the low-players oh god, I got tired of losing to shitty plays.....


lol.

well i guess the more fish the better..
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43676 Posts
August 14 2009 09:16 GMT
#14
Terran Counters

* Marines work best here. Marines with Stim Pack. Marines in Bunkers.

* Later on, use Vultures and Spider Mines.

* Siege Tanks can fire on groups of Firebats at long distances.

* Cast Irradiate on groups of Firebats.

* Use Wraiths and Battlecruisers because Firebats cannot attack air targets.

Protoss

Protoss players sometimes run into trouble fighting Stim Packed Firebats. Zealots can be slaughtered by the Firebats unless you outnumber them, and they are not controlled properly by the enemy.

* Firebats have difficulty destroying Dragoons. Build up a group of Dragoons and use them to attack the Firebats if the enemy continues to build lots of Firebats. Use Shield Batteries to keep them alive. Use Dragoons in combination with Zealots against Firebats.

* If no Dragoons are available, try to outnumber the Firebats with Zealots.

* Catch Firebats while they are moving in single file lines catching them by surprise

* Build Reavers later on as they can easily destroy them.

* Use Scouts and Carriers to attack them from the air since they cannot respond to the attack.


http://classic.battle.net/scc/terran/ufire.shtml
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
August 14 2009 09:17 GMT
#15
On August 14 2009 18:03 vRoOk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 18:00 Etherone wrote:
you didn't read anything on bankroll management?!!? the single most important aspect of the game hahahahaha.


Oddly enough since i have both books right here.. neither book mentions Anything about bankroll management.. ):





most good poker books are more of a tool to sharpen your skills once you have the fundamentals down, and can see clearly where these things apply.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5936 Posts
August 14 2009 09:17 GMT
#16
On August 14 2009 18:02 ShaperofDreams wrote:
How do you let go of kings?


"The fourth raise before the flop means pocket aces" from Phil Gordon's Little Blue Book.

You have to be able to lay down hands like that from time to time... the board doesn't always favor your huge pair. At low stakes, a favorite play is to limp in with pocket AA/KK/QQ/JJ, then shove after any flop. (People of course shove anything at low-stakes; I was holding a raggy ace once and I tried to bluff that I was slow-playing AK on an AKx flop... the guy called with AQ, but I hit my second pair and sacrificed a lamb.) My favorite counter-play is to flop a set and take the guy's whole stack.

Anyway, bankroll management is something that some people just have to experience, even though they read all the warnings about bad beats and probabilities. Sometimes calmness and confidence actually gets in the way of patience, so you play sloppy because you are too ready to be the next Elky.

I used to have a really wild break-even strategy for my bankroll: I would be down a significant number of buy-ins, so instead of grinding back, I would take all my money to the highest stakes I could afford, win back all those buy-ins with one all-in, and then smash a lamp on my testicles.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
August 14 2009 09:17 GMT
#17
wow must have been shitty books. I never read any books and I won over 500$ with the 50$ free also didn't play with playmoney.
But I'm a good starcraft player. XD
NeVeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1352 Posts
August 14 2009 09:28 GMT
#18
On August 14 2009 18:17 oBlade wrote:
I used to have a really wild break-even strategy for my bankroll: I would be down a significant number of buy-ins, so instead of grinding back, I would take all my money to the highest stakes I could afford, win back all those buy-ins with one all-in, and then smash a lamp on my testicles.


That's exactly the kind of strategy that makes you go broke. But I'm guilty of it too.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-14 09:33:51
August 14 2009 09:33 GMT
#19
On August 14 2009 18:17 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 18:02 ShaperofDreams wrote:
How do you let go of kings?


"The fourth raise before the flop means pocket aces" from Phil Gordon's Little Blue Book.

You have to be able to lay down hands like that from time to time... the board doesn't always favor your huge pair. At low stakes, a favorite play is to limp in with pocket AA/KK/QQ/JJ, then shove after any flop. (People of course shove anything at low-stakes; I was holding a raggy ace once and I tried to bluff that I was slow-playing AK on an AKx flop... the guy called with AQ, but I hit my second pair and sacrificed a lamb.) My favorite counter-play is to flop a set and take the guy's whole stack.

Anyway, bankroll management is something that some people just have to experience, even though they read all the warnings about bad beats and probabilities. Sometimes calmness and confidence actually gets in the way of patience, so you play sloppy because you are too ready to be the next Elky.

I used to have a really wild break-even strategy for my bankroll: I would be down a significant number of buy-ins, so instead of grinding back, I would take all my money to the highest stakes I could afford, win back all those buy-ins with one all-in, and then smash a lamp on my testicles.


Whats this lamp thing you keep mentioning?
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43676 Posts
August 14 2009 09:40 GMT
#20
On August 14 2009 18:33 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2009 18:17 oBlade wrote:
On August 14 2009 18:02 ShaperofDreams wrote:
How do you let go of kings?


"The fourth raise before the flop means pocket aces" from Phil Gordon's Little Blue Book.

You have to be able to lay down hands like that from time to time... the board doesn't always favor your huge pair. At low stakes, a favorite play is to limp in with pocket AA/KK/QQ/JJ, then shove after any flop. (People of course shove anything at low-stakes; I was holding a raggy ace once and I tried to bluff that I was slow-playing AK on an AKx flop... the guy called with AQ, but I hit my second pair and sacrificed a lamb.) My favorite counter-play is to flop a set and take the guy's whole stack.

Anyway, bankroll management is something that some people just have to experience, even though they read all the warnings about bad beats and probabilities. Sometimes calmness and confidence actually gets in the way of patience, so you play sloppy because you are too ready to be the next Elky.

I used to have a really wild break-even strategy for my bankroll: I would be down a significant number of buy-ins, so instead of grinding back, I would take all my money to the highest stakes I could afford, win back all those buy-ins with one all-in, and then smash a lamp on my testicles.


Whats this lamp thing you keep mentioning?

It evens out the karma. When you luck out hard in your insane highstakes allin you need to punish yourself to balance it out otherwise next time you try it you'll lose everything. Kinda obvious.
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