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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
April 08 2013 19:39 GMT
#1
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
April 08 2013 19:42 GMT
#2
Your last blog got 12.5k views, that's pretty good for a non featured blog :D
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
April 08 2013 19:43 GMT
#3
On April 09 2013 04:42 Cokefreak wrote:
Your last blog got 12.5k views, that's pretty good for a non featured blog :D

Destiny + Reddit will do that.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 19:45:34
April 08 2013 19:45 GMT
#4
Yeah, it's also at the top of the hot threads on TL even though it's already closed.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 08 2013 19:52 GMT
#5
Basically all your last blog accomplished was proving that I don't have access to a "shell booter" or a real botnet. Some people do - they are cheap and they work, so I don't think it's fair to dismiss the idea that people are being DDoSed so easily just because you haven't been a victim yourself.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
April 08 2013 20:21 GMT
#6
On April 09 2013 04:45 Cokefreak wrote:
Yeah, it's also at the top of the hot threads on TL even though it's already closed.

I feel like that is the recipe for success, call a big name out, know you aren't in trouble, and then profit lol. He even got some moderation in his blog, extra points .
User was warned for too many mimes.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 20:44:58
April 08 2013 20:35 GMT
#7
One thing that bothered me from your original blog, though I didn't get a chance to post:

I want to clarify that 100 mbit is not uncommon in Europe. Costs ~ $25 / month.

A 100 mbps connection is fairly exceptional as far as I'm aware in the US, especially at the rate of $25 a month (many ISPs don't even offer it at all, and a quick google search of various providers in the US shows prices of $100+ per month being far more typical). You're dismissive of R1CH's statement that 20 mbps or lower connections are common among home users, and maybe that's the case where you live, but certainly not here.

I'd guess the majority of American streamers do not have a 100 mbps connection, and very likely do not have the option of getting one (either because it's not available through their ISP or it's beyond their practical budget).
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Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
April 08 2013 20:46 GMT
#8
On April 09 2013 05:35 TheYango wrote:
One thing that bothered me from your original blog, though I didn't get a chance to post:

Show nested quote +
I want to clarify that 100 mbit is not uncommon in Europe. Costs ~ $25 / month.

A 100 mbit connection is fairly exceptional as far as I'm aware in the US, especially at the rate of $25 a month (many ISPs don't even offer it at all, and a quick google search of various providers in the US shows prices of $100+ per month being far more typical). You're dismissive of R1CH's statement that 20 Mbps or lower connections are common among home users, and maybe that's the case where you live, but certainly not here.


While I can't speak for all of Europe, in Denmark, you can't get 100 down for less than 400 DKK (70$) a month.
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 20:59:56
April 08 2013 20:56 GMT
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34501 Posts
April 08 2013 20:58 GMT
#10
I wish I had a 100mbit connection. I'm stuck with 10mbit here where I live
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R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10342 Posts
April 08 2013 20:59 GMT
#11
I'm not going to get into another argument with you, but the threat is very real. If you do some research you'll see. No router can protect you when your line is filled with 1+gbps of junk.
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Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 21:10:42
April 08 2013 21:07 GMT
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Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
April 08 2013 21:11 GMT
#13
On April 09 2013 06:07 Inori wrote:
Ok it seems that no matter how nicely I try to word it I can't get constructive exchange of messages going, so let's drop the subject.

Please close this blog post.

You could say the opposite too, you don't really want to listen to arguments either.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
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Last Edited: 2013-04-08 21:13:18
April 08 2013 21:13 GMT
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Ficetool
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany165 Posts
April 08 2013 21:13 GMT
#15
If everyone disagrees with you, you are usually wrong. Think about it.
Deleted User 61629
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 21:20:16
April 08 2013 21:18 GMT
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 21:20:30
April 08 2013 21:19 GMT
#17
On April 09 2013 06:13 Inori wrote:
What arguments? That 2-3 Gbps botnets for $20 / month are a real thing? Show me where they are.


Well after a google search for "online shell booter" I found this website. http://xrshellbooter.com/ After registering, it appears to be a website where you purchase access to shell booters. Extremely massive ones (for the script kiddie who wants to take down a website like a hardcore haxx0r) seem to cost 50-100 dollars a month, whereas small ones (for the script kiddie who thinks ddosing stephano is LE EPIK TROLES) cost 15, 25, dollars a month.

Please, at least google it.

Edit: If I shouldn't have linked the website, a mod can please feel free to remove it.
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28512 Posts
April 08 2013 21:28 GMT
#18
On April 09 2013 06:19 HollowLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 06:13 Inori wrote:
What arguments? That 2-3 Gbps botnets for $20 / month are a real thing? Show me where they are.


Well after a google search for "online shell booter" I found this website. http://xrshellbooter.com/ After registering, it appears to be a website where you purchase access to shell booters. Extremely massive ones (for the script kiddie who wants to take down a website like a hardcore haxx0r) seem to cost 50-100 dollars a month, whereas small ones (for the script kiddie who thinks ddosing stephano is LE EPIK TROLES) cost 15, 25, dollars a month.

Please, at least google it.

Edit: If I shouldn't have linked the website, a mod can please feel free to remove it.

Ok, now to prove Destiny's claim, buy one and try it out. You've got the IP of Inori.
I don't know. I'm not an authority on the subject but I can recognize when people aren't completely fair and I'm not talking about Inori.
Not hating.
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HollowLord
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3862 Posts
April 08 2013 21:30 GMT
#19
On April 09 2013 06:28 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 06:19 HollowLord wrote:
On April 09 2013 06:13 Inori wrote:
What arguments? That 2-3 Gbps botnets for $20 / month are a real thing? Show me where they are.


Well after a google search for "online shell booter" I found this website. http://xrshellbooter.com/ After registering, it appears to be a website where you purchase access to shell booters. Extremely massive ones (for the script kiddie who wants to take down a website like a hardcore haxx0r) seem to cost 50-100 dollars a month, whereas small ones (for the script kiddie who thinks ddosing stephano is LE EPIK TROLES) cost 15, 25, dollars a month.

Please, at least google it.

Edit: If I shouldn't have linked the website, a mod can please feel free to remove it.

Ok, now to prove Destiny's claim, buy one and try it out. You've got the IP of Inori.
I don't know. I'm not an authority on the subject but I can recognize when people aren't completely fair and I'm not talking about Inori.
Not hating.


Well, I'm not going to buy it because there's really nothing to accomplish from me doing that. If Inori wants to try it on his system then that's his prerogative, I'm just responding to his claim that these websites didn't exist.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 08 2013 21:32 GMT
#20
On April 09 2013 06:18 Inori wrote:
Except for the part where nobody managed to prove me wrong even with very generous opportunities.
Or the part where in the whole previous blog post I saw maybe 3 people that actually knew the topic well enough to talk about it.

Ah damn it now I made 2 additional posts in a blog I wanted to be closed. Not posting on this topic anymore regardless if it's closed or not.


Why are you doing? R1ch basically went through an explained to you why your internet connected was specifically resistant to DDoSing and then provided you with details as to why that is not available to most people(I have 5 mgs down, for example, not 100 mgs). What more to you need? Either you accept the expertise of people who are known for being experts in their field, or you don't. Demanding proof be provided in a form that you will accept is not an argument. You are just demanding something from people and you will decide when they have provided it.
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