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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Penev
28485 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:30 HollowLord wrote: Well, I'm not going to buy it because there's really nothing to accomplish from me doing that. If Inori wants to try it on his system then that's his prerogative, I'm just responding to his claim that these websites didn't exist. He said a couple of times that he thinks that those sites are a scam. It's obviously possible to ddos but not for that price (is what he's claiming). | ||
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:34 Penev wrote: He said a couple of times that he thinks that those sites are a scam. It's obviously possible to ddos but not for that price (is what he's claiming). Well if that's his claim then it's his burden to back that up with evidence. Otherwise he's making an argument from ignorance. Edit: Argument from ignorance in the John Locke terminology, not the "fucking ignorant noob gg no re" sense. | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:37 HollowLord wrote: Well if that's his claim then it's his burden to back that up with evidence. Otherwise he's making an argument from ignorance. Edit: Argument from ignorance in the John Locke terminology, not the "fucking ignorant noob gg no re" sense. Or you could just try it yourself and make $35 if you think he's so obviously wrong. Nobody's done it yet. I have to say 100Mbps is pretty exceptional speed though; I'm not sure any home ISP in the US offers that, aside from maybe Verizon. ~10Mbps is what the vast majority of gamers will have. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:44 Cel.erity wrote: I have to say 100Mbps is pretty exceptional speed though; I'm not sure any home ISP in the US offers that, aside from maybe Verizon. ~10Mbps is what the vast majority of gamers will have. A couple American ISPs offer it at exorbitant prices (if you're willing to pay $100+ a month for your internet). | ||
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HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:44 Cel.erity wrote: Or you could just try it yourself and make $35 if you think he's so obviously wrong. Nobody's done it yet. I have to say 100Mbps is pretty exceptional speed though; I'm not sure any home ISP in the US offers that, aside from maybe Verizon. ~10Mbps is what the vast majority of gamers will have. To be perfectly honest I don't trust him to pay up if he's wrong. Even if he did, I would rather not give my credit card or paypal information to some shady haxxor website. | ||
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Grovbolle
Denmark3809 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:44 TheYango wrote: I mean, we also established that Inori's connection is a lot better than what any NA streamer is going to have available to them. He dismissed this saying that 100 mbps connections are common in Europe, but given that Destiny isn't a European streamer, nor is a significant portion of Destiny's target audience with that reddit post--that isn't a valid counterpoint. I disagree that they are common, just available. | ||
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Penev
28485 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:37 HollowLord wrote: Well if that's his claim then it's his burden to back that up with evidence. Otherwise he's making an argument from ignorance. Edit: Argument from ignorance in the John Locke terminology, not the "fucking ignorant noob gg no re" sense. Well he made a bet and so far nobody accepted the challenge. I guess no one dares to make use of the services provided by those sites (I don't blame them). Inori has not been to unreasonable in these 2 threads and I'm sure if anyone does take the bet and at least create a disturbance in his matrix he'll post that here. Or would have because it seems all bets are of. | ||
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Penev
28485 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:46 Grovbolle wrote: I disagree that they are common, just available. In the Netherlands its becoming quite common. They just keep upping the speed. My ISP: https://www.ziggo.nl/#producten/alles-in-1/ This is with digital television and dedicated phone line. | ||
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Shirin
Hungary11 Posts
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:18 Inori wrote: Except for the part where nobody managed to prove me wrong even with very generous opportunities. Or the part where in the whole previous blog post I saw maybe 3 people that actually knew the topic well enough to talk about it. Ah damn it now I made 2 additional posts in a blog I wanted to be closed. Not posting on this topic anymore regardless if it's closed or not. i think you are conceited and a little ignorant. with that said, let's clarify exactly what you are trying to get "proven wrong" 1. are you saying that home networks cannot be DDoS'd? 2. are you saying that you can't be DDoS'd? 3. are you trying to say that the average streamer can't be DDoS'd? 4. are you saying that it is not possible to find a service to DDoS you for a certain price? ($25? $50?) 5. are you saying that in order for someone to actually be correct, they have to take an action to prove you wrong, instead of just providing you with logical evidence? just so that we are clear, since you seem to be arguing a lot of different things throughout the threads and reddit | ||
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JackDT
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FlaShFTW
United States10203 Posts
1. basically no1 agrees with you 2. ddos is a very real threat. 3. people are crazy and will have so much free time on their hands to start randomly ddosing people. one such example of number 3 is the fact that league and community established by 4chan for HAXBALL (YES THAT STUPID FLASH GAME WHERE YOU RUN AROUND AS A DOT KICKING A BALL) had people ddosing players. LOL. yeah. so please learn your information first and actually attempt to do some research before making unintelligent remarks how "ddosing is not real" and "is an excuse for people getting ddosed" EDIT: my mistake. the other guy said the "excuse" stuff. however my point still stands. ddos is a real threat, dont act like you know everything about it if you haven't actually experienced it. destiny has upwards of 5,000 dollars in revenue lost due to ddos. | ||
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icydergosu
528 Posts
--- 90.191.167.138 ping statistics --- 21 packets transmitted, 13 received, 38% packet loss, time 20075ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 59.359/70.332/85.635/10.978 ms --- 90.191.167.138 ping statistics --- 51 packets transmitted, 23 received, 54% packet loss, time 50233ms rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 59.361/69.993/81.286/10.021 ms | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On April 09 2013 13:54 FlaShFTW wrote: the funniest part about this is that this "inori" kid says that basically EVERY PERSON WITH DDOS PROBLEMS is using DDoS as AN EXCUSE. LOLOLOL. im sorry inori, go ahead and report me, i dont care, but someone who is trying to act in an intelligent manner is failing quit hard. 1. basically no1 agrees with you 2. ddos is a very real threat. 3. people are crazy and will have so much free time on their hands to start randomly ddosing people. one such example of number 3 is the fact that league and community established by 4chan for HAXBALL (YES THAT STUPID FLASH GAME WHERE YOU RUN AROUND AS A DOT KICKING A BALL) had people ddosing players. LOL. yeah. so please learn your information first and actually attempt to do some research before making unintelligent remarks how "ddosing is not real" and "is an excuse for people getting ddosed" EDIT: my mistake. the other guy said the "excuse" stuff. however my point still stands. ddos is a real threat, dont act like you know everything about it if you haven't actually experienced it. destiny has upwards of 5,000 dollars in revenue lost due to ddos. despite the unfortunately awful presentation of this post, I find myself agreeing. Inori clearly can't possibly actually have factual information on the subject or he just wouldn't be spewing this trash unless it was the best troll of all time (which would be great if he knew something like this would really rustle up Destiny). If you don't understand it, don't talk about it like you do. Pretty simple. | ||
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whiteguycash
United States476 Posts
This blog exists solely due to Inori's inability to comprehend root causes of Ddos issues with streamers, regardless of all the actual information out there. I find it ridiculous that someone could come this far down the rabbit hole and still be ignorant of their own misgivings. | ||
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FromShouri
United States862 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On April 09 2013 06:07 Inori wrote: Ok it seems that no matter how nicely I try to word it I can't get constructive exchange of messages going, so let's drop the subject. Please close this blog post. | ||
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