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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 10 2010 03:56 GMT
#1
I've been out of the loop, but I did some poking around due to the Waxangel thread.

You know how I always went around saying progamers started losing because the fame and money got them distracted by girls / alcohol etc?

I was wrong.

Savior, anytime, luxury, and many other progamers have been caught 100% proven cheating. Being arrested and taken to court no joke.

Their 'slumps' happened because betting sites/rings paid them 10-20k at times to throw games and they finally got caught.

The korean esports world is handling it as quietly as possible so that the industry isn't harmed by the news which is why you merely only see rumors floating around, but they are no rumors.

Unfortunately for the progaming industry, assholes like me exist.

I'm not sure about the details but it is confirmed. I will try to get as many names, amounts, and details as possible in the near future!

****
why so 진지해?
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
April 10 2010 03:59 GMT
#2
in waxangel's thread you said you never found any proof

On April 10 2010 12:38 Rekrul wrote:
i've always believed that there is match fixing, cheating, and other stuff though never really found any proof

throughout gaming history, people have chosen to cheat in so many ways to gain edges, even kids like testie would hack just so that they could feel better about themselves and be king of the internet

are we really naive enough to believe that everyone would be honorable in the platform with the most at stake?


but now you have some? how did you get it so quickly?
UNFUCK YOURSELF
FiBsTeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States415 Posts
April 10 2010 03:59 GMT
#3
Say it ain't so!

Oh well, at least Bisu is clean, right? ... right?
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
April 10 2010 03:59 GMT
#4
Wow.

Breaking this mufugga wide open, the intrepid journalist and pro gambler Rekrul!

The truth will set us all free.
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#5
On April 10 2010 12:59 Nitrogen wrote:
in waxangel's thread you said you never found any proof

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2010 12:38 Rekrul wrote:
i've always believed that there is match fixing, cheating, and other stuff though never really found any proof

throughout gaming history, people have chosen to cheat in so many ways to gain edges, even kids like testie would hack just so that they could feel better about themselves and be king of the internet

are we really naive enough to believe that everyone would be honorable in the platform with the most at stake?


but now you have some? how did you get it so quickly?


i asked around and got answers
why so 진지해?
EGLzGaMeR
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1867 Posts
April 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#6
...if this is srs... its quite pathetic...
tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
April 10 2010 04:00 GMT
#7
trollin'? i hope so...
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2589 Posts
April 10 2010 04:01 GMT
#8
Savior, anytime, luxury


srsly, sAviOr?? OMG...
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
April 10 2010 04:02 GMT
#9
Wow, this blows my mind.
MaRiNe23
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:03:38
April 10 2010 04:02 GMT
#10
This thread is about to get serious. Wait threre's a slight possiblity it might be a troll but then again..rekrul's never made a thread where it was a troll before..(progaming gossip 1 and 2,why foriegners suck etc)
We have competitive ladder, strong community, progaming in Korea going strong, perfectly balanced game..why do we need sc2? #1 ANTI-SC2 fan
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
April 10 2010 04:02 GMT
#11
Rekrul is just a delusive fanboy who can't believe his favourite players suck so much nowadays.
No I'm never serious.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
April 10 2010 04:03 GMT
#12
no...fucking way...OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:04:00
April 10 2010 04:03 GMT
#13
This can't be true...
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-10 04:04:55
April 10 2010 04:04 GMT
#14
On April 10 2010 13:03 flamewheel91 wrote:
This can't be true.

I seriously hope he's joking too. :/
Was July also removed for the same reasons?
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 10 2010 04:05 GMT
#15
april fools was over a week ago you idiots

i'm not joking lol
why so 진지해?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 10 2010 04:05 GMT
#16
Would this explain bisus recent performance? Or did he just stop caring >_>
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
April 10 2010 04:07 GMT
#17
If you've been out of the loop, who is in the loop and knows which progamers have been throwing games? I don't remember hearing about any of the big names being arrested or called to court (savior, anytime, etc.?)

If this sort of thing happens all the time, then couldn't it also be possible that other forms of match fixing also exist? Teams could also throw PL matches or who knows what...
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
April 10 2010 04:08 GMT
#18
i'll call bullshit
manner
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 10 2010 04:08 GMT
#19
I am remaining interestedly skeptical.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42973 Posts
April 10 2010 04:09 GMT
#20
Given the reputation of Korean society for corruption it doesn't surprise me.
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